Aibu ti be slightly annoyed with DH for taking a Covid test

Good point, sorry, i mispoke, i thought these jabs worked for the prople who needed them - although i haven't had either for a good while

But you haven't been careful. And the good hygiene part is for the people you may infect. It's too late for you.

That's not true either

They do

I personally can't bear people who just get on with it and cough and sneeze all over other people. It's so selfish and I always felt this way. Long before COVID.

Really?
I’m 71, fully vaccinated and now have a chest infection following flu. I honestly felt dire for 72 hours, spent 5 days in bed with fever, no appetite, raw throat, splitting headache, awful cough and I felt like I’d been hit by a bus.
The doctor thinks I might have pleurisy.
…not a worry? 🤬

Unfortunately by dismissing the seriousness of covid you encourage others to not take it seriously. Not all covid symptoms are the same or severe. Mild initial infection can still lead to long covid and organ damage. You also ignore the risk of infecting others. Sadly the immunocompromised do not have a flashing light above their heads to help those who are out and about with covid to avoid them. Which has lead to many STILL shielding as they cannot have a vaccine and their lives are still at great risk. The Covid Inquiry demonstrates the sad state of affairs that covid continues to leave the country in. With hospitals still becoming overwhelmed and the country suffering the highest levels of ill health and the impact this has on our economy. The narrative that covid is just a cold has far reaching consequences including a reactive pushback from taking any illness seriously and a willingness to merrily infect others at will. As the OP stated, now they have a positive test result they feel different about the action they should be taking.

The original post was about the usefulness or futility of testing. I’ve made my stance on this clear - it is pointless and we should be guided by the presence and absence of symptoms.

We could argue all day about Covid, long covid etc. and neither of us will change our stance. You set your stall out in your initial post directed at me where you were disparaging of my area of specialism and somewhat insulting to me as an individual researcher.

I will not be engaging further with you and will save my research discussions for my workplace.

Enjoy your day.

Each covid infection increases your risk of long covid and organ damage.
https://medicine.washu.edu/news/repeat-covid-19-infections-increase-risk-of-organ-failure-death/#:~:text=The%20researchers%20found%20that%20repeat,gastrointestinal%20systems%3B%20and%20even%20death.

The 80 year old shoulda had the flu and covid jab, so not a worry

I’m not disputing long covid exists (my DH likely has it) or that other covid and vaccine health related issues exist.

But if you look at the meta analyses which have to date been carried out - which is problematic in itself as the studies to date are so variable in terms of design, sample size, methodology, patient selection etc which makes comparisons and definitive conclusions difficult - the majority of long covid appears to have occurred early in the pandemic ie prior to vaccination. Now that we have a successful vaccination programme and people have at least a degree of immunity, the incidence of long covid appears to be falling although granted, the prevalence remains, as you would expect given there is no “cure”.

Thus for the majority of (vaccinated) people, Covid will not cause life changing problems. We simply cannot put the world on hold for a viral infection that is no longer the threat it was in the past.

Testing is pointless. If you have symptoms of any viral infection, isolate yourself until the symptoms have gone.

isnt this post viral fatigue syndrome.

Well but it isn't, is it. There's no flu equivalent of long Covid is there?

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01136-X/fulltext

https://whn.global/scientific/spectrum-of-covid-19-from-asymptomatic-organ-damage-to-long-covid-syndrome/

We will need to agree to disagree.

We're encouraged to test at my workplace and told to stay away from the office if we're feeling ill.

I've just had a colleague in hospital with Covid. It was awful. She's young with small children so it's still making some people seriously ill.

I still test if I feel ill as I don't want to spread it to anyone. You just don't know who will sail through covid and who won't.

I'm not convinced of that. There was a lot of talking about it, and hinting at it, as became the government's standard procedure to test public reaction to a possible strategy: leak to the press what might happen, and observe the public reaction.
"Masks might become compulsory in shops."
"There might be Locktober."
"Vaccine passports might happen." (Soon after "they will never happen".)
They might not have stated it publicly, but I think the infrastructure was there, the idea was oven-baked and warm, and ready to be pulled out like a rabbit out of a hat, once the public had been nudged enough to accept the idea. I think we did come dangerously close to it. Initially, lots of people (and politicians) thought that we could never lock down, then Italy did it, and our politicians said "so can we". So when Austria brought in their compulsory vaccines, our politicians might easily have said "if Austria can do it, so can we".

Unfortunately you haven't even been able to understand my comment.
I'm not arguing against vaccines.
I am arguing against your view that covid isn't serious.
There's plenty of global, peer reviewed studies showing the harm covid causes in the form of long covid, organ damage, blood clots, diabetes and yes, still killing people.
The fact our gov has chosen not to provide vaccines to the wider population (unlike other countries) is based on nothing more than cost, which will be a false economy as our economy suffers with increasing sickness, both long and short term.

Care to share your evidence based sources? What you’ve said doesn’t even make sense - one cannot be a “specialist” if one doesn’t use peer reviewed, evidence based data - it’s the cornerstone of specialist practice in any field of medicine.

I think it is easy to forget how many more 10s of 1000s of people may have died without vaccination.

If you give any medication to billions of people, some will unfortunately have serious side effects - as a student, I saw a man in his 40s given cocodamol for pain following a routine eye op. He went into renal failure and died. A medication given to millions of people every year.
It’s the nature of the beast.

Someone has to be the 1 in a million who dies as a result of the medication/medical intervention. But we need to remember that if we hadn’t had a vaccine programme, many, many more would have died. Unless of course you believe the world is flat…..

There’s a 10% chance of getting long Covid every time we get Covid. People have had to give up their jobs and are house bound. I do wish people would understand that this can be a really awful virus and can cause a lot of damage.

Healthy and fit people are affected and it can happen even after a mild case. I do think Covid is different to your bog standard cold. It has quite a vascular element.

Either way, you've been out mixing with others knowing you're not feeling well and were likely to spread it to others, so I'd say it's only fair to let them know so they can prepare in terms of medicines/whether they want to cancel plans with others if they start feeling iffy.

I know we have to live with covid, but I'd rather know if I was likely to get it, so my Mum could prepare food wise in case we can't get together. I can't function if I have covid and we think my Mum has only had it once and she looked and felt really ill.

Utter rubbish

And yet another 'health specialist' ignoring data on covid, long covid and associated organ damage.

This. I know enough people with long covid to understand this is not something I want to take lightly. I was so ill I wanted to die so at least it would stop.

That said, I wouldn't mix with people if I had a cold either. It needs to be normalised to stay away from other people when you're ill.

Whether it's covid or not is largely irrelevant.

No one wants a nasty bug over Christmas, or any other time of the year really.

I'm self employed, so if someone chose to socialise with me knowing they have something contagious it's likely to coat me hundreds, maybe even thousands of pounds to cancel days of work. I work closely with people from all walks of life, including carers, the immuno-compromised, the self employed etc. Plenty of whom would be negatively impacted by my decision to share a space with them when I know I'm ill.

I'm very grateful when a friend or a client is honest and says they have to reschedule due to illness. I would much rather see them in a week or so than have to cancel days of my own work/plans.

Long before covid-19 was around we took sensible precautions around socialising when sick, whether or not it's covid is a red herring in this instance. You were sick with something contagious. That should have been enough for you to consider other people and modify your plans.