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Annoyed at another school mum for overly trusting her daughter

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HelloUniverse · 18/12/2024 09:45

My dd10 has been friends with a girls for a long time. Last week I received a text in the morning from her mum saying my dd was showing ‘threatening behaviour’ and was going to ‘spread nasty rumours’ about her friend and I should sort this out with my daughter. I asked my daughter and she denied it, and was a bit shocked her friend had said this about her. They went into school that day and played happily together and everything was fine. Even the friend’s mum acknowledged that they were both fine at school. AIBU to be annoyed at the mum for accusing my daughter automatically and not finding it strange that one minute she finds my daughter threatening and the next she’s best friends again? Luckily my daughter isn’t sensitive and has bigger things going on in her world that this doesn’t bother her. But it bothers me that my dd was accused of something (no witnesses or evidence) and the mum has just moved on, without even acknowledging her dd may have made this up?

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emziecy · 23/12/2024 21:29

Havingaswimmoose · 18/12/2024 18:10

Even her form teacher would have been shocked to hear what my dd had been accused of.

Are you sure about this? Are teachers so easily affected?
Don't teachers take all this nonsense in their stride?
I'd hope so.

I'm a primary teacher (Not in UK) I do not copy and paste from a bank of comments when writing reports. However in non core subjects most of the children in my class are very similar, so it's quite hard to write the same thing multiple times in different ways. The general teacher comments are harder to write because it is more personal and has to be worded as positively as possible and I would personally never say anything like 'your child is an angel'. No kids are 'angels', my own 3 included. Children often behave very differently in school than they do at home x

Hufflemuff · 23/12/2024 13:49

HelloUniverse · 19/12/2024 08:19

I just want to add that we have a sleepover planned in our house in early January with this child and a few more. I suggested she may want to rethink attending? After all her DD doesn’t feel comfortable around my DD. (I’m also feeling anxious, what will I be accused of?) She thinks I'm breaking up the friendship circle. Thoughts?

A little later to the party, but I would 100% keep that date, then I would watch them like a hawk (without them realising - if that's possible).Then if your DD is in the wrong, you can educate her and discipline her if necessary. If its the other girl, you can be sure to provide her mother with a full report.

Just use that line everyone lovesssss "i thought you'd want to know"

BobbyBiscuits · 23/12/2024 13:16

You would presumably believe your child if she said a friend had done something mean.

But the way the mum describes it doesn't really explain exactly what happened. Is she saying your child actually said 'I am going to spread rumours about you'? Or was it more, 'I'm going to tell others what you did'?

Either way the mum was trying to be supportive presumably to her kid. But can see it's probably not a massive deal as they are still friends.

She sounds a bit full on and if the daughter is being nasty or accusing her, then you should tell your kid to stop playing with her.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 23/12/2024 13:02

HelloUniverse · 23/12/2024 10:56

Why are people still posting? I’ll take the win of 55% of voters agree with me 😊

Since you didn't add a poll, did you actually go through and count up results?

Apologies for posting though, I must have missed you declaring an end to the thread earlier, because that is definitely how the internet works.

HelloUniverse · 23/12/2024 10:56

Why are people still posting? I’ll take the win of 55% of voters agree with me 😊

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TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 23/12/2024 09:48

What do you mean by "years of tip toeing around and being the bigger person"?

That sort of implies that there's a long history of mild bickering between these girls. That's not to say that your daughter isn't a nice girl, but she's not necessarily a perfect beacon of kindness and caring either. Which is fine and normal.

And FYI, it's not necessarily a great tactic to "be the bigger person". For starters, it's a sort of implied moral superiority that stops you wondering if the other person actually has a point. That could get people's backs up. And it also shirks actually tackling the issue head on and talking it through.

MondayYogurt · 23/12/2024 09:48

Teenage girls are horrendous!
everyone nods

But not my DD!

It's always someone else's daughter...

Niknakcake · 23/12/2024 09:47

Chrysanthemum5 · 18/12/2024 14:18

I had similar. DS (when he was about 12) went on a sleepover and there were several boys there. One of the boys used their iPad to look up porn and then showed it to the younger boys. The mum contacted me to say it was DS so I spoke to him and he said it wasn't and he knew nothing about it. The mum then contacted school to say that DS was a pervert and shouldn't be allowed in the school. At that point one of the other boys confessed he had done it not DS. The school quite rightly said they couldn't take responsibility for something that happened outside school and told her to be very careful in future before accusing children.

The other mum never even said sorry. DS had been great friends with her son and kept receiving invites to go to his house but I refused them all - how could I trust her not to do something similar again.

I’m shocked at the schools response. That’s appalling. They absolutely can (and should) be involved in a safeguarding issue like that.

Lickityspit · 23/12/2024 09:35

There are usually 3 sides to every story.

CosyLemur · 23/12/2024 09:27

HelloUniverse · 18/12/2024 17:54

Well that’s obvious. I did the same thing.

Usually I always tell my DD to go and apologise for whatever has happened as it’s not worth the hassle and just be the bigger person etc… But this time it got to me as this is very out of character for my DD. Her school report came out yesterday, and to quote from it “Moreover, dd’s kindness
and caring nature significantly enhance the school atmosphere, making her a valued member of her community.”

Even her form teacher would have been shocked to hear what my dd had been accused of.

That's exactly what my the school report would have said for my school bully! Despite what TV shows portray it isn't usually children who are horrible, nasty and disruptive in class that are the bullies they're usually quiet kind to everyone else.

CosyLemur · 23/12/2024 09:22

HelloUniverse · 18/12/2024 17:27

It’s possible. If I was the other mother, I would have at least waited for the rumours to be circulated and go in with some evidence, then the teachers could question the children. There is nothing to go on at this stage except her dd’s opinion and my dd’s opinion. It’s all hearsay!

Are you honestly saying that if your daughter came to you upset that someone was threatening to tell everyone a rumour about her - you wouldn't do everything in your power to stop it? Are you honestly saying your response to your daughter would essentially be "sorry not my problem I can't do anything about that"

Even the threat can be devastating for a child!

CosyLemur · 23/12/2024 09:19

HelloUniverse · 18/12/2024 09:45

My dd10 has been friends with a girls for a long time. Last week I received a text in the morning from her mum saying my dd was showing ‘threatening behaviour’ and was going to ‘spread nasty rumours’ about her friend and I should sort this out with my daughter. I asked my daughter and she denied it, and was a bit shocked her friend had said this about her. They went into school that day and played happily together and everything was fine. Even the friend’s mum acknowledged that they were both fine at school. AIBU to be annoyed at the mum for accusing my daughter automatically and not finding it strange that one minute she finds my daughter threatening and the next she’s best friends again? Luckily my daughter isn’t sensitive and has bigger things going on in her world that this doesn’t bother her. But it bothers me that my dd was accused of something (no witnesses or evidence) and the mum has just moved on, without even acknowledging her dd may have made this up?

Aren't you doing exactly the same though? Believing your daughter is telling the truth without any evidence to either prove or disprove it?
I think YABVVU!

Chrysanthemum5 · 19/12/2024 22:22

@Upupandaway10 yes she did call the school who firmly told her to stop being ridiculous. But she still tried to get them to speak to us and DS about his behaviour even though it wasn't him who had done this thing.

Her son is now a young adult and has nothing to do with his family any more which is sad but I can imagine how hard living with her must have been

HelloUniverse · 19/12/2024 08:46

Havingaswimmoose · 19/12/2024 01:33

I was asking if you are sure of your statement that the form teacher would be shocked.
You seem very sure for someone who now says they've not had to deal with teachers.
So how can you be sure they would be shocked?

Yes I’ve never had to deal with teachers about this type of ‘nonsense’ as you put it. Of course I’ve had to deal with teachers at parents evenings, all the various co-curricular activities, tea time concerts, school plays etc… hence I know the teachers well enough to know they would be surprised to hear that accusation.

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HelloUniverse · 19/12/2024 08:19

I just want to add that we have a sleepover planned in our house in early January with this child and a few more. I suggested she may want to rethink attending? After all her DD doesn’t feel comfortable around my DD. (I’m also feeling anxious, what will I be accused of?) She thinks I'm breaking up the friendship circle. Thoughts?

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HelloUniverse · 19/12/2024 07:03

Guest100 · 19/12/2024 02:21

Who knows what actually happened. They are 10. It was probably a tiny squabble, they both would have said something like I’m not playing with you anymore and your DD has forgotten about, while the friend went home and told her mum. And now the mum has blown it out of proportion.
I wouldn’t have anything to do with that family again. I wouldn’t feel like my child was safe around the mum. I would request different classes, but if they play together that’s fine. But absolutely no play dates.

Thank you, this is how I see it too 💐

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HelloUniverse · 19/12/2024 07:01

Delphiniumandlupins · 19/12/2024 02:45

The other mother may have thought that by warning you she could stop the 'threatening behaviour' from your DD and, from her point of view, it worked. You believe your DD was never planning any misbehaviour but if the situation was reversed would you have actually sent your child to school, expecting them to be bullied, to get evidence? If your DD is as well-behaved and well-regarded as you claim then she is probably able to manage her friendships quite successfully. I think you, like the other parent, should step back and let the girls be friends or not, as they choose. You haven't any evidence of wrongdoing from the other girl at the moment, and I think teachers would prefer less petty drama to deal with.

Yes I know all this and agree with you, I’m a rational person, but if I can accept my child may not be the perfect angel she is, why can’t she?

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HelloUniverse · 19/12/2024 06:59

Edingril · 19/12/2024 04:45

You both sound less mature than your children you both don't know,what happened and you can 'yeah but what about this' all you want you weren't there i presume? And no neither was she but she is not one on here wanting us to tell you your daughter is innocent

It all sounds like Hollyoaks

I fully accept I’m being childish, and yes she started it 😂 but I’ve been driven to this after 6 years of tip-toeing around this mother and child.

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Edingril · 19/12/2024 04:45

You both sound less mature than your children you both don't know,what happened and you can 'yeah but what about this' all you want you weren't there i presume? And no neither was she but she is not one on here wanting us to tell you your daughter is innocent

It all sounds like Hollyoaks

Mummyoflittledragon · 19/12/2024 04:37

We had an incident with a stepmother, who came to our house when dd was 11 (end of year 7) and ranted at me in a high-pitched squeal for 7/8 minutes without me being able to get a word in edgeways. Then turned on her heel and left. She was upset that my dd had introduced her dsd a porn grooming site, which has since been removed from the internet, that her dsd had subsequently shown to a 7 yo niece. Except my dd hadn’t introduced it to her dd. My dd there at the time but she thought it was disgusting. Otoh, the dsd was intrigued. (No blame is apportioned to this as at 11 I get she was just curious without understanding the implications.) It was a mutual friend, who had shared it… and another friend of my dd and that friend, who had shown it to her etc etc - as is the case with such things. I never outed that friend as I wasn’t going to send batshit woman to their door.

I had another visit from the batshit woman last year. Similar tone of voice etc. I said something she didn’t like, which escalated the situation. She left slamming the door so hard that it flew open again. Then the texts started. I replied once with a firm boundary and she flew off the handle, telling me I was 50% to blame for my dd having anorexia.

Unsurprisingly her dsd (girls both now 16) is not terribly emotionally stable. My dd put up with her mood swings for a long time. They’d been friends for 12 years. It blew up this year. Nothing dd did. Actually the dsd hounded one of dd’s friends, calling the friend nasty names. That friend ended up telling the dsd that my dd had said horrible things to her about this girl (all untrue as dd said she hadn’t, the friend just made it up). At the time my dd was incredibly ill with anorexia and it wouldn’t have entered her head to say such things, she was barely functioning. This completely blew up the friendship and the dsd sent my dd the most vile message I’ve ever read in my life. Such venom from a 16 year old is unreal. The text started by telling my dd (who had lost almost 30% of her body weight) to starve herself again as she is putting on weight. Suffice to say, they are no longer friends.

You have put up a good boundary for your dd. I learned very early on that any incidents, which happen at school should be addressed through the school to prevent upsets between adults. The children have often made up before the parents even fall out. And I learned from the interactions with this woman (who I was loosely friends with and forgave the first incident), that when people tell you who they are the first time, you should believe them.

Delphiniumandlupins · 19/12/2024 02:45

The other mother may have thought that by warning you she could stop the 'threatening behaviour' from your DD and, from her point of view, it worked. You believe your DD was never planning any misbehaviour but if the situation was reversed would you have actually sent your child to school, expecting them to be bullied, to get evidence? If your DD is as well-behaved and well-regarded as you claim then she is probably able to manage her friendships quite successfully. I think you, like the other parent, should step back and let the girls be friends or not, as they choose. You haven't any evidence of wrongdoing from the other girl at the moment, and I think teachers would prefer less petty drama to deal with.

Guest100 · 19/12/2024 02:21

Who knows what actually happened. They are 10. It was probably a tiny squabble, they both would have said something like I’m not playing with you anymore and your DD has forgotten about, while the friend went home and told her mum. And now the mum has blown it out of proportion.
I wouldn’t have anything to do with that family again. I wouldn’t feel like my child was safe around the mum. I would request different classes, but if they play together that’s fine. But absolutely no play dates.

Upupandaway10 · 19/12/2024 02:07

Chrysanthemum5 · 18/12/2024 14:18

I had similar. DS (when he was about 12) went on a sleepover and there were several boys there. One of the boys used their iPad to look up porn and then showed it to the younger boys. The mum contacted me to say it was DS so I spoke to him and he said it wasn't and he knew nothing about it. The mum then contacted school to say that DS was a pervert and shouldn't be allowed in the school. At that point one of the other boys confessed he had done it not DS. The school quite rightly said they couldn't take responsibility for something that happened outside school and told her to be very careful in future before accusing children.

The other mum never even said sorry. DS had been great friends with her son and kept receiving invites to go to his house but I refused them all - how could I trust her not to do something similar again.

What! She phoned the school and said your son was a pervert! Shock

Havingaswimmoose · 19/12/2024 01:33

HelloUniverse · 18/12/2024 18:14

I have no idea, I’ve never had to deal with teachers due to my daughter’s behaviour or because someone else has been mean to her. This other mother on the hand has been in several times with various issues here and there.

I was asking if you are sure of your statement that the form teacher would be shocked.
You seem very sure for someone who now says they've not had to deal with teachers.
So how can you be sure they would be shocked?

HelloUniverse · 18/12/2024 22:09

CraftyOP · 18/12/2024 21:28

@HelloUniverse someone has to be a grown up at the end of the day!

Yes you are right, but i’m tired of being the bigger person with this particular mum.

I’m also angry with my DD as I’ve warned her about this girl before and she’s put me in this situation again! As a family we just can’t understand why she would want to be friends with someone who paints her in a bad light.

The silver lining of course is that my reaction has made it difficult for her to come directly to me next time, so she will have to go through school if she has any more issues which is perfect!

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