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To think that non drinkers are often hard work..

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BromptonBay · 17/12/2024 21:39

My best friend of many years has recently decided to go tee total on alcohol - what started as sober October (which I fully support!) has now escalated to never drinking again.. AIBU to think she’s being a bit of a kill joy?! I fully agree that we all need to be mindful of alcohol consumption but I can’t understand the need to place unnecessary limits on yourself for the rest of your life. Now every single night out or restaurant trip must be centred around finding a bar with good ‘mocktails’ - frankly when buying rounds I’ve refused to pay through the roof prices for a bit of fruit juice in a fancy glass when a ‘real’ drink costs the same amount. She seems to quite enjoy the moral superiority of things and will often make comments towards the rest of us where we are drinking. It’s all a bit exhausting!

Definitely no pregnancy/health issues - we’re very close. She was never a heavy drinker so no addiction issues, same on my side. We were always just a cocktail/glass of wine or two girls and would never really drink to get drunk, hence I don’t understand why she can’t just drink in moderation like she has always done. She seems to be actively making life difficult for herself (and those around her)..

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 17/12/2024 21:53

Onlyvisiting · 17/12/2024 21:48

If you truly believe you are a moderate drinker I suggest you do dry January and see how you feel about it. Better yet, start now.
Someone who is truly not dependent on alcohol could give it up for weeks on end without making an effort. Or no more effort than eg deciding not to eat chocolate for a month.

I don’t tend to do dry Jan because often I find I’ve gone 2/3 weeks or so without drinking and don’t even notice until that time has passed. I find as I get older I can’t drink much without having a bad hangover, and I don’t drink on work nights.

JadeScroller · 17/12/2024 21:53

BromptonBay · 17/12/2024 21:49

Whether you’d like to believe it or not, I am a very mindful drinker - usually only a few per month. My friend was also mindful but would typically drink a bit more often hence why the sudden switch has baffled me.

In my experience nobody who is genuinely secure in their own level of alcohol consumption has ever had an issue with anyone else choosing not to drink.

CheeseyOnionPie · 17/12/2024 21:52

You’re being so unreasonable. If she doesn’t want to drink she doesn’t have to. The whole idea that her mocktail shouldn’t be the same price as an alcoholic drink shows that you seem to put a lot of value on the alcohol itself and not the being in a nice environment enjoying a drink and some time with a friend.

CorbyTrouserPress · 17/12/2024 21:52

I stopped socialising with a ‘friend’ like you. I’m not a big drinker and don’t touch a drop if I’m driving, my friend knew this yet every time we went out she would repeatedly say things like ‘you can have a glass of wine and still be fine to drive’ etc. Took me a while to realise she was simply incapable of socialising without a drink, no matter what time of day or where we were.

Popolinar · 17/12/2024 21:52

ilovelamp82 · 17/12/2024 21:49

Woah woah woah. No chocolate for a month? Now that is crazy talk.

I don’t drink or eat chocolate 😂. Cheese on the other hand…

BackToRealitySigh · 17/12/2024 21:52

I think it depends. Of it's holier than thou I'm so superior now that I don't drink and banging on about it constantly then whilst I'm pleased for the individual i don't particularly want to spent time with them (see also my colleague and her annual bore about slimming world)
Generally yabu - non drinkers can be just as engaging as drinkers whatever the reason for not drinking

saraclara · 17/12/2024 21:51

I thought we'd got past the bad old days when people would get mocked for sticking to an orange juice. Is it the 1970s again?

7ft1garysson · 17/12/2024 21:51

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7ft1garysson · 17/12/2024 21:51

It’s not your friend’s fault that you are only fun when you drink.

you are being overly judgemental, well done to your friend.

BromptonBay · 17/12/2024 21:51

Onlyvisiting · 17/12/2024 21:48

If you truly believe you are a moderate drinker I suggest you do dry January and see how you feel about it. Better yet, start now.
Someone who is truly not dependent on alcohol could give it up for weeks on end without making an effort. Or no more effort than eg deciding not to eat chocolate for a month.

I very easily (and often do) go weeks or months without alcohol and don’t give it any thought. It’s not a necessity in my life whatsoever, nor am I dependent in the slightest. It’s easy to go without - you don’t need to put silly bans on yourself like a child.

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InformerYaNoSayDaddyMeSnowMeIGoBlameALickyBoom · 17/12/2024 21:51

The fact you see alcohol as a real drink and refuse to pay for non alcoholic drinks speaks volumes.

There's no way you simply have a few drinks a month, yet have this strong an opinion on your friend opting out of a few drinks a month.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 17/12/2024 21:50

I mean your individual friend might be hard work - not apparent going on anything you’ve said though.

I don’t think people who don’t drink are hard work. People I know who don’t just don’t have an alcoholic drink. Just like if I don’t want to drink on a specific evening I would just have something else. Doesn’t sound a big deal to me!

ilovelamp82 · 17/12/2024 21:49

Onlyvisiting · 17/12/2024 21:48

If you truly believe you are a moderate drinker I suggest you do dry January and see how you feel about it. Better yet, start now.
Someone who is truly not dependent on alcohol could give it up for weeks on end without making an effort. Or no more effort than eg deciding not to eat chocolate for a month.

Woah woah woah. No chocolate for a month? Now that is crazy talk.

BromptonBay · 17/12/2024 21:49

DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 17/12/2024 21:44

From the attitude expressed in your post, I don’t believe for a moment that you only have “a cocktail/glass of wine or two”.

Whether you’d like to believe it or not, I am a very mindful drinker - usually only a few per month. My friend was also mindful but would typically drink a bit more often hence why the sudden switch has baffled me.

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ThoseDarnCrows · 17/12/2024 21:49

Well aren't you a charmer!

Onlyvisiting · 17/12/2024 21:48

If you truly believe you are a moderate drinker I suggest you do dry January and see how you feel about it. Better yet, start now.
Someone who is truly not dependent on alcohol could give it up for weeks on end without making an effort. Or no more effort than eg deciding not to eat chocolate for a month.

Mademetoxic · 17/12/2024 21:47

You sound like a great friend.

Popolinar · 17/12/2024 21:47

Not everyone enjoys alcohol and some people decide it’s not for them, it’s a non issue. I don’t drink and haven’t since I was 19ish, I simply don’t like alcohol or the way that it makes me feel. Your friend has decided it’s not for her and she wants to live an alcohol free life, that’s her choice and it’s not a hardship to find somewhere that does mocktails, you’re hardly supporting her calling her a “killjoy”.

ilovelamp82 · 17/12/2024 21:46

And yet you are the one that is on here making comments about it and kicking up a fuss about paying for her drink in rounds. Sounds like she is the one still making the effort to join in despite not drinking. Ultimately it's a healthy, positive decision. Who's to say that she may drink again one day but if she's decided that she doesn't want to drink for the forseeable, even if she didn't drink that much, maybe she is proud of kicking the habit. Just be pleased for her and enjoy your cocktail at the same time. Simple.

spoonfulofsugar1 · 17/12/2024 21:46

As someone who doesn't drink, it's people with your attitude i find hard work. She's made a healthy decision, support her.

Onlyvisiting · 17/12/2024 21:46

If she is making a point of sounding superior then she is BU. But if she is just going about her normal life sans alcohol and you think anyone who doesn't drink is boring and weird then you are being massively unreasonable.
If you can't enjoy a social occasion without alcohol, or even without HER having alcohol then you are the problem.

And I would hazard a guess that if she has done sober October and kept up with it it is because it made her realise that she either feels better not drinking, or realised she was more dependent on it than you think and that that is not healthy.

BromptonBay · 17/12/2024 21:46

healthybychristmas · 17/12/2024 21:43

Is she possibly on a weight loss drug? They can stop you wanting any alcohol at all.

Nope, definitely not! She isn’t the type to do anything like that (not that she needs it anyway)

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RolaColaLola · 17/12/2024 21:45

What an odd attitude you have. Maybe you need to spend some time reflecting on why this bothers you so much.

Frosty1000 · 17/12/2024 21:45

I don't drink alcohol, my friends don't care, don't comment and always include me in the round.

If ever one of them called me hard work they wouldn't be a friend anymore.

You're being very judgemental as they choose not to drink alcohol and prefer the drinks they want.

DelicateSoundOfEchos · 17/12/2024 21:45

I often don't drink. Sometimes I'll have water and sometimes I'll have mocktails or a 0% version of something. Why the fuck shouldn't I?!

I've never felt I need to justify myself when I'm not drinking. But thankfully my friends are actually my friends and don't try to push their choices onto me, and vice versa.

You ask why shouldn't she just drink in moderation. She doesn't fucking want to does she!