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Divorce SUCKS

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WineNeededPlease · 17/12/2024 18:48

My Husband has multiple affairs, just about destroys my mental sanity and I'm the one that will potentially lose my home and have to downsize with two children and start again.

However, he earns mega money and can be pleased to go on and live life and rebuild to the level we've been at.

It seems so unfair that men can do this...

Quick call from a divorce lawyer and turns out I really cannot afford to leave him and will probably have to keep trying until I break in half. 😔

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LetThereBeLove · 18/12/2024 19:11

WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 17:17

@ShinyShona

I can't afford to leave him wasn't meant in an overall financial sense. It was used colloquially.

You can technically afford to leave with £100 and clothes in a bag if you really want to. I wasn't comfortable with the financial outcome and my return back to work etc.

Why would I want a clean break? I would prefer to stay in my home and have him keep me and the kids here until they leave school. But that's my preference. Clean breaks are usually Scottish Law. Not English. Unless you're based in Scotland?

It's not realistic and I understand that. But what I want and what the reality is doesn't have to align, hence my frustration.

OP the longer you stay in this limbo the worse it is for your DCs. They should be your first priority.
Staying with a man who has emotionally and physically cheated on you for so long is not good for them to witness and believe me they will sense your unhappiness and confusion. Also, do you really want to wait until they are 18, learning that the way their father treats you is the normal way to treat women? Seriously?
You have some money and a job offer. Separate fully by moving into another home if your partner refuses to do so himself and start your divorce proceedings.
FWIW my DDs told me they wished I had divorced their father long before I actually did so I do speak with experience. I wish you lots of luck but you and your DCs will be much happier in the long run.

WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 18:45

Just on the below - obviously he has worked away a lot too so he used to be away for multiple days of the week. I think that's where the emotional affairs started.

I was home alone for days on end, he was lonely... I was lonely. I'm not making excuses but part of me understands.

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WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 18:44

OopsyDaisie · 18/12/2024 18:37

@WineNeededPlease just remember the reason you divorce someone is not because they are a bad Dad (umpire saying your DH is a good dad and I believe you), it's because they are bad HUSBAND.
He will still be a (good) Dad, or he can choose to still be one, after divorce....

I think you're right with this. He really is a good Dad, and he's everything I would have wanted growing up.

He is away because he's working constantly to provide financial stability. Not because he doesn't want to be home.

He will regularly let me go away for a girls weekend and has no qualms in having them. He always offers to do bedtime, bathtime, morning drop offs. He does brekkie every single morning and lets me have a lie in - especially when I've got the youngest all day and no childcare currently. Even though he's working long hours too.

He has been a bad husband. He is truly ashamed of behaviours but it's soul destroying when it happens.

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AlertCat · 18/12/2024 18:44

WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 17:35

Yes, exactly. Thank you. And I think I'll feel strong knowing I have a plan and I'm working towards something. I just feel terrible, he's going to be distraught when this final ends. I don't think he really believes I'd ever do it because I grew up in such a broken home.

I’m glad you are forming a plan. But look, if he is going to be distraught at you leaving, why hasn’t he taken seriously your pain and deep distress over the period of time since you found out about the infidelity? These events have all been brought about by choices he has made, and not just once but repeatedly, over and over again.

You will be so much stronger than you think. And so much better off once you don’t have this emotional torment to deal with.

OopsyDaisie · 18/12/2024 18:37

@WineNeededPlease just remember the reason you divorce someone is not because they are a bad Dad (umpire saying your DH is a good dad and I believe you), it's because they are bad HUSBAND.
He will still be a (good) Dad, or he can choose to still be one, after divorce....

ByBusyTiger · 18/12/2024 17:50

There was a thread on x asking why women aren’t having children anymore.

This post, this is it.

femfemlicious · 18/12/2024 17:41

Can't you get a 2 bed flat inthe same area with your new job and your divorce settlement?

CandiedPrincess · 18/12/2024 17:39

@WineNeededPlease It really is your choice at the end of the day. I couldn't stay with someone who had multiple affairs. I couldn't stay with someone who had one but multiple I wouldn't even entertain the thought for one minute.

Hand on your heart, do you think he would be capable of change?

WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 17:38

Hates a strong word! Not hate! Just maybe doesn't respect?

Turns out he's cheated on everyone. Every relationship.

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WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 17:38

@andIsaid this is so insightful. I do wonder how much he hates and disrespects women because of his mother... I suspect there is a real mother wound there. Not that he will ever acknowledge it. But I know his therapist has suggested.

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andIsaid · 18/12/2024 17:36

WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 17:26

Would you mind clarifying your point please? Sorry, I don't understand it but would like to.

Well - he may be running around trying to soothe his soul after being raised by a cold uncaring mother.

Or, he may be running around giving payback after being raised by a cold uncaring mother ("you can't have" me kind of thing).

Or, he may be running around enjoying because he enjoys the thrill and danger...

Or, the cold uncaring mother may have been a woman who just could not manage...

Or, he may be wanker who won't/can't sort himself out and be an adult.

But you are. And why suffer like this? Why suffer for this?

WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 17:36

WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 17:34

I just feel like half of me is level headed: get all the advice, start planning, I should divorce, I don't want my children to end up with the same behaviour or damaging them. This thread has been very helpful in making me understand that you should stay on behalf of the children.

The other half: desperately wants it to all go away, do couples therapy and bury my head in the sand.

Please tell me this is normal.

I feel so guilty doing this behind his back. (And I know, I know... he never felt guilty lying to me and deceiving me).

*shouldn't stay!

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WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 17:35

CandiedPrincess · 18/12/2024 17:33

Just take your time and get it right. There's no immediate rush or panic is there? Get all the right information.

Yes, exactly. Thank you. And I think I'll feel strong knowing I have a plan and I'm working towards something. I just feel terrible, he's going to be distraught when this final ends. I don't think he really believes I'd ever do it because I grew up in such a broken home.

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WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 17:34

I just feel like half of me is level headed: get all the advice, start planning, I should divorce, I don't want my children to end up with the same behaviour or damaging them. This thread has been very helpful in making me understand that you should stay on behalf of the children.

The other half: desperately wants it to all go away, do couples therapy and bury my head in the sand.

Please tell me this is normal.

I feel so guilty doing this behind his back. (And I know, I know... he never felt guilty lying to me and deceiving me).

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CandiedPrincess · 18/12/2024 17:33

Just take your time and get it right. There's no immediate rush or panic is there? Get all the right information.

WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 17:32

@CandiedPrincess

Thank you.

So, the person I spoke to is a Partner and one of my friends who is also a Partner in a different law firm referred him. He gave me advice as a friend of a friend but it needs to be in my depth.

They've just sent me an email requesting all financial information and a face to face meeting to discuss at length. He has referred me onto someone else who specialises directly in this.

Therefore I really need to get all the information. Looks like a very expensive fact finding mission.

I feel sick 😔.

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CandiedPrincess · 18/12/2024 17:29

WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 17:27

Okay, this is interesting. Thank you. My calls have been purely short and exploratory. So maybe I need to put together the financial sheet he's sent over and get a proper meeting in.

I would. I get some proper advice, make sure you get everything you're entitled to and get a clean break so you can move on. But I'm not a legal expert - just someone who has been divorced!

CandiedPrincess · 18/12/2024 17:27

If this helps you OP from Mediate UK - Reasons a clean break is sensible:

If you do not get a clean break, it can leave you vulnerable to future financial claims by your former spouse, even after the divorce has been finalised.
They may be able to make claims on any assets you acquire after the divorce.

For example, if you were to receive an inheritance or win the lottery after your divorce, they could argue that they are entitled to a share of these assets because, without a clean break order, you are still financially tied to them – even many years after your divorce has been completed.

Similarly, if you were to re-marry and acquire new assets with your new spouse, your ex could make a claim on these assets if you did not have a clean break in place. This could potentially lead to ongoing legal battles and financial uncertainty, which could be emotionally and financially draining, making it difficult for you to move on with your life.

A clean break order will ensure that your financial ties between you are clearly defined and finalised and that you can move forward with your life knowing that there are no more lingering obligations or entanglements.

WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 17:27

CandiedPrincess · 18/12/2024 17:25

Why would I want a clean break? I would prefer to stay in my home and have him keep me and the kids here until they leave school. But that's my preference. Clean breaks are usually Scottish Law. Not English. Unless you're based in Scotland?

Clean breaks are extremely common in the England, in fact I don't know anyone who has got divorced and not had a clean break. There's not a chance I would have got divorced without one.

Not sure where you are getting your info from but most judges will arrange a 'clean break'. It's not in anyone's best interest to stay financially tied to someone post-divorce. Could also go in your favour if you are the weaker party financially as you may walk away with more of the assets.

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Okay, this is interesting. Thank you. My calls have been purely short and exploratory. So maybe I need to put together the financial sheet he's sent over and get a proper meeting in.

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WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 17:26

andIsaid · 18/12/2024 17:25

I feel sorry for him because his Mum is very cold and I think he's always chasing women's validation and approval via emotional cheating.

Maybe.

Or maybe he will be on a life long journey of payback to females...

Would you mind clarifying your point please? Sorry, I don't understand it but would like to.

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CandiedPrincess · 18/12/2024 17:25

Why would I want a clean break? I would prefer to stay in my home and have him keep me and the kids here until they leave school. But that's my preference. Clean breaks are usually Scottish Law. Not English. Unless you're based in Scotland?

Clean breaks are extremely common in the England, in fact I don't know anyone who has got divorced and not had a clean break. There's not a chance I would have got divorced without one.

Not sure where you are getting your info from but most judges will arrange a 'clean break'. It's not in anyone's best interest to stay financially tied to someone post-divorce. Could also go in your favour if you are the weaker party financially as you may walk away with more of the assets.

WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 17:25

@andIsaid I agree. And actually I would have failed if my two ever cheat. It would kill me to the core, especially knowing I put up with it.

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andIsaid · 18/12/2024 17:25

I feel sorry for him because his Mum is very cold and I think he's always chasing women's validation and approval via emotional cheating.

Maybe.

Or maybe he will be on a life long journey of payback to females...

WineNeededPlease · 18/12/2024 17:24

SpryCat · 18/12/2024 15:27

You are feeling sorry for him? For having an affair? Your trial separation isn’t a separation if you share a bed, go out for dinner and he is kissing and cuddling you! He is doing everything he can to sabotage you leaving plus your saying you don’t want to live without him.
He has been having emotional affairs so he has been actively looking for a woman to connect on a deep level, a life partner as he feels he hasn’t that got at home. He will be forever looking to fill the void inside him forever, no woman will be enough. It’s one thing feeling sorry for him but as he has had a few emotional affairs and one sexual affair I think it’s time you looked back at the last 10 years and ask yourself if that’s what you want for the future.

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Of course. I think you're right and I think this runs much deeper than me.

He's has always cheated on previous partners too. This came out when I confessed to a mutual friend of ours that he's had an affair.

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andIsaid · 18/12/2024 17:23

WineNeededPlease · 17/12/2024 21:30

I just so desperately don't want to fuck them up. I want them to be happy and free and have no burdens... I watched my parents go through this and it was awful. I just feel like I've totally ruined their lives.

It is a fallacy to think that problems are what mess a person up.

After all, a successful life depends on the ability to solve problems when they arise (which they do, all the time).

You watched the hell of your parents, not because of the problem that they wanted to break up, but because they could not/did not deal with the problem properly.

That is what messes things up.

You have constructed an ideal of a life that you would like to give your boys; there is nothing wrong with that and a lot right with it.

But in this case it will involve them witnessing the ritual humiliation of their mother by their father. Witnessing the profound sadness of their mother because she is not treated with dignity or respect.

But hey, the family will be together. In a nice house.

That is the pay off.

What do you think they will post in 15 years time?

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