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People who say they need to decide nearer the time

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IncreasinglyMadWomanInTheAttic · 17/12/2024 17:58

This happened twice this week. I have invited people over for lunch after Christmas (so not months in advance or anything) and they have told me that they aren’t yet sure what they’re doing that day/ would like to play it by ear. It is so rude. Not least because, having issued the invitation, I am now stuck until you make a decision and I can’t make other plans with my (limited) annual leave. If I’m not good enough for you to cash in a holiday day on, then fine - just decline the invitation- but it’s bloody rude to put me in a position where I’m now stuck holding the day for you, and you’re waiting to see whether you get a better offer. I absolutely see that people might be in a position whereby they are waiting to hear back from visiting family etc after Christmas - so in that case, either say so and chase up the missing bit of info and say you’ll revert asap (obviously perfectly normal and reasonable), or if that isn’t possible, then just decline the invitation, surely, so as not to inconvenience the person extending the invitation and leave them hanging on, with the implication that their time is less important than yours…? It’s just so ill-mannered!

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Blueybingobanditchilli · 24/12/2024 09:25

It’s rude. Just say no if you don’t want to go somewhere, make any excuse up, people would just rather know if you’re coming or not.

Rasputin123 · 24/12/2024 09:07

@crazyunicornlady73 exactly. @WonderingWanda some teachers are so condescending and fucking entitled they give others a bad name.

I have a neighbour who is a teacher and she goes on and on about how tired and over worked she is because she has such an important job.

Sod the rest of us who also have important jobs and similar Christmas prep as well as other mental loads outside of school such as supporting close elderly relatives and or very sick family members etc. Not just buying a few gifts and moving an elf on the fucking shelf etc. Give yourself a shake.

crazyunicornlady73 · 24/12/2024 06:14

WonderingWanda · 17/12/2024 20:09

Maybe they are a teacher and on their last legs dragging themselves to the end of an 8 week half term and still marking a mountain of mocks, whilst also trying to avoid the family row about who goes where for Christmas whilst simultaneously trying to order the magic of Christmas online for their kids, as well as making sure they've filled their tesco online order in for the day before Xmas eve so they have actualy Christmas dinner. Find the Christmas jumpers...and probably wash them too. Also making sure that they've purchased gifts for a million other people, teachers, TA's etc, got something nice for themseves and their kids to wear on Christmas day, organised the logistics of who has what clubs and who's taking who to and from Christmas productions, buying the work secret santa, the food for the bring and share buffet, the end of term gifts for the work team, the fucking elves. Then there's the normal household stuff like washing and cleaning etc etc.......and maybe they just don't have the headspace for anything else so cut them some slack!!

By the way op, I'm not coming, I am staying at home in my pyjamas eating cheese for the holidays....oh crap, I need to go and add cheese to the tesco basket!!

I'm sorry, I'm a teacher too and this is the most self-pitying rubbish I've ever heard.
Fair enough that Christmas is school leaves you longing for a break and if you really can't face going out for two weeks then I guess you let everybody know that and leave them to live their lives. But no, we don't get a special dispensation to treat others poorly because we have a tiring job.
I'm perfectly capable of making plans and sticking to them, as are all my teacher friends 🤷🏽

crazyunicornlady73 · 24/12/2024 06:03

Yes it is rude and I'm seriously rolling my eyes at people on here claiming that parenting/life is too "exhausting" to make proper commitments.
Please go and see a doctor if that's honestly the case.
Anyway OP absolutely don't hold that time open for people who respond this way. You need a polite way of letting them know that your time matters too.
How about something like:

"When would you be able to let me know by because I've got a few different things to fit in on those dates?"

Oblomov24 · 24/12/2024 05:52

Agree it's just rude, hoping for a better offer.
I disagree with sinckersnack completely. You only need a day, to go home check the diary, check with Dh, before you can give a response.

Zanatdy · 24/12/2024 05:50

Just say can you let me know by x date as i’ll be making alternative plans if you’re not coming. It is rude I agree unless something going on that could mean a change of plan (sick relative for example). Really rude to just wait and see if a better option comes their way

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 24/12/2024 05:46

Really rude. Tell them you're busy now and the offer is closed.

Never ever put up either this rudeness.

Justsayit123 · 24/12/2024 05:29

I’d contact them and disinvite them and never ask again. It’s beyond rude unless there’s a situation with kids and exs.

NiftyPeachDreamer · 24/12/2024 05:07

Not least because, having issued the invitation, I am now stuck until you make a decision and I can’t make other plans with my (limited) annual leave.

This is where you are being very passive, OP.

When someone tells you they want to tell you
nearer the time, take back control and respond saying ‘Actually, I need to know today so if you you're not sure you can make it, that’s fine, let’s just take a rain check.’

I doubt they will be so cavalier with you next time.

BuildbyNumbere · 24/12/2024 03:30

WonderingWanda · 17/12/2024 20:09

Maybe they are a teacher and on their last legs dragging themselves to the end of an 8 week half term and still marking a mountain of mocks, whilst also trying to avoid the family row about who goes where for Christmas whilst simultaneously trying to order the magic of Christmas online for their kids, as well as making sure they've filled their tesco online order in for the day before Xmas eve so they have actualy Christmas dinner. Find the Christmas jumpers...and probably wash them too. Also making sure that they've purchased gifts for a million other people, teachers, TA's etc, got something nice for themseves and their kids to wear on Christmas day, organised the logistics of who has what clubs and who's taking who to and from Christmas productions, buying the work secret santa, the food for the bring and share buffet, the end of term gifts for the work team, the fucking elves. Then there's the normal household stuff like washing and cleaning etc etc.......and maybe they just don't have the headspace for anything else so cut them some slack!!

By the way op, I'm not coming, I am staying at home in my pyjamas eating cheese for the holidays....oh crap, I need to go and add cheese to the tesco basket!!

Hahaha … oh God. Another pity party by a teacher. Please … anyone would think you lot are the only ones that work. Didn’t you get 6 weeks off a few months ago, now you have 2 weeks, some people lucky to get 2 days! zzzzzzzzzz

BuildbyNumbere · 24/12/2024 03:27

Strawber · 17/12/2024 19:57

If I'm invited somewhere I don't want to go this is the phrase I use 'let's see nearer to the time' then I plan something else so I can say I'm not available

That’s pretty rude and quite nasty, why not just decline in the first place?

BuildbyNumbere · 24/12/2024 03:26

Why hold the day, just carry on with what you are doing. If something comes up for you in the meantime accept the offer and if they then come back accepting your invite tell them sorry, you are now busy.

BettyBardMacDonald · 24/12/2024 03:17

Scottishskifun · 17/12/2024 18:01

I quite often say can we play it by ear.....because I have 2 young children who get ill and I also have a long term health condition which I manage but comes with fatigue.

Unless you know everything going on in their lives there could be a very good reason for wanting to say can we play it by ear.

No. If you can't commit, decline. Don't let the hosts dangle. How rude.

The backstory on kids etc is irrelevant.

ThinWomansBrain · 24/12/2024 02:07

I can be a bit like this around committing if I'm depressed.
If someone replied with a 'OK, we'll get on and arrange something else then" I wouldn't be offended.

Tetchypants · 24/12/2024 01:44

Be upfront OP, at the first hint of flakiness say that’s fine but you’ll see who else is free that day, and tell the faffer to get back to you with an alternate date.

If they pull the “oh suddenly I’m free today now, and up for your delicious lunch”, tell them yes but serve them leftovers sandwiches.

Interlaken · 24/12/2024 01:33

Everlygreen · 17/12/2024 19:17

Yabu, do you mean the day after Xmas or when exactly. People are very busy this time of year and literally after Xmas might just want to do nothing. Every invite for after Xmas this year, I have said I will let you know closer to the time. They can plan ahead without me but I can't commit now.

I can’t commit now is one thing, but to not even commit to a date by which you’re prepared to let them know, nor to delay into a time you can commit to is actually unspeakably rude.

I’m sorry that some randomer on the internet has had to let you know that you are every host’s worst nightmare.

AConcernedCitizen · 24/12/2024 01:12

Instead of sitting their seething because people can't commit at one of the busiest times of the year, just tell them you need to know by X date and move on 🤷🏻‍♂️

Isittimeformynapyet · 24/12/2024 01:08

GiantBears · 17/12/2024 18:28

I agree. I cleaned the house from top to bottom and got a lot of nice stuff set up for someone once and then they didn't show up and didn't even contact us to say they wouldn't. We were just left standing there like idiots. Oddly, next time that person had a party, they were stood up by other people who were much more interesting than us, so I think it happens to everyone.

I'm really curious how long you just stood there for 🤔

SnowflakeSmasher86 · 24/12/2024 00:59

IWillAlwaysBeinaClubWithYouin1973 · 17/12/2024 18:08

It simply means they’re hoping for a better offer.

In my case that “better offer” may well be working (self employed) or just being semi comatose on the sofa as I’m peopled out or exhausted (chronic illness).

i try not to make a big deal of my chronic pain condition and associated exhaustion, so many friends may not be aware of it. I have to manage my time carefully to make sure I can get my work done on time and still function as a single parent, and make time to see my boyfriend a couple of times a week. Adding in an extra commitment could throw the whole thing off if I have an extremely busy work day or don’t sleep well.

It’s not rude to say that I can’t commit at the moment. If they ask me if I’m free tomorrow they’ll get a firmer answer, a couple of weeks away and I have no idea what my health or work schedule will look like.

Toots22 · 24/12/2024 00:55

I’ve just lived through 15 years of immeasurable stress, caring for very sick parents with lots of care needs. That unfortunately would have been me a lot of the time, probably wanting to go but not having the energy, not knowing if I would have the energy at the time, or never feeling I could fully commit as I spent that much time in and out of hospitals with them. I do feel your pain though, it’s not easy being in that position.

gannett · 24/12/2024 00:21

sinckersnack · 17/12/2024 19:16

I don't think it's rude at all. I hate being put on the spot. People ask if I want to come to lunch on 27th. They already know that they're free, uncle Jack will have gone home, DH is taking the kids out etc. I haven't thought through the logistics... what was I doing the night before and will I have stayed over/ have guests staying over? When will I next have to prep something for work? Don't forget youngest has an event and will need picking up at 4.... There's no way I could possibly answer on the spot. And I hate it! (Often say yes forgetting that I've now committed to a four hour drive at 8 in the morning ... or something. And spend the next week thinking of ways to get out of it!!)
So I say - can I let you know, can I decide nearer the time. And if it's a casual arrangement the friend says "sure" or "Don't worry if you're not free I'll arrange something else" or whatever... we communicate..
No-one intends to be rude I'm sure. Just different ways of doing things.

What? No one is putting you on the spot. If you need to check X/Y/Z say so and say you'll get back to your friend by the end of the week or whatever, then do so.

No one knows on the spot whether they're free on a certain date! There's always a diary to check. So you tell your friend what you have to consider and then you make up your mind.

gannett · 24/12/2024 00:19

50shadesofnay · 17/12/2024 21:35

I like to play things by ear. It isn't about waiting for a better offer, I just find it quite stressful to plan too many plans.

Then just say no. If someone's invited you to something less casual than just a bunch of people in a pub, you need to give them a definite response for their convenience, not for yours.

I get that diarising social stuff is stressful but if someone's offering to host, you have to operate to their timetable.

WhereYouLeftIt · 24/12/2024 00:18

"I have invited people over for lunch after Christmas (so not months in advance or anything) and they have told me that they aren’t yet sure what they’re doing that day/ would like to play it by ear."
To which I would respond 'Well I'll take that as a 'no' then'.

Afraidofhimrightnow · 24/12/2024 00:10

Elednia · 19/12/2024 08:15

They are saying no without being able to say no. It's like when you put leftovers in the fridge. You're not going to eat them. You know you're not going to eat them. But you put them in a box for three days because you can't face it!

I always take it as a no and make other plans. I would never hold a day for someone like that.

I always eat the leftovers. I can't relate to this at all.

Afraidofhimrightnow · 24/12/2024 00:09

Scottishskifun · 17/12/2024 18:01

I quite often say can we play it by ear.....because I have 2 young children who get ill and I also have a long term health condition which I manage but comes with fatigue.

Unless you know everything going on in their lives there could be a very good reason for wanting to say can we play it by ear.

Surely you say yes or no and only cancel if you're physically not up to it?