AIBU in thinking the government have made the correct decision not to blanket pay all WASPI women £3k? This goes against the Ombudsman recommendations to pay between £1k-3k to every WASPI women.

If we have such an issue with Amazon and them not 'paying their way' then boycott them. No, didnt think so!

There is a huge black market of cash in hand roles, people working in nail bars, car washed in barbers shop. They still look fully functioning and we are enabaling this by using them in the first place!

Absolutely not. I'd like to see the rich and corporations pay their proper contributions instead of avoiding them. The money Amazon gets away with would more than pay for this.

Maybe not every WASPI woman is poor (I am not) - but the vast majority are in the poorest sections of society, often with reduced pensions because "childcare was their job" as wives and mothers. They didn't have the luxury of a choice. Many didn't have the luxury of working.

Why should women get an earlier pension when we live longer?

I get that done feel they weren’t adequately informed but even young people on here have said they remember the adverts and it didn’t apply to this age group.

Last year they said the predicted pension age may be 72, given life expectancy hasn’t drastically improved but years with a lower quality of life have it means current young people will have a far shorter retirement on average than waspi women.

Not to mention the current twenty somethings who are predicted to never own a home no matter how hard they work and will be paying rent all through retirement.

Everyone knows that you're entitled to child benefit when you have kids. Should all those who had babies after it became means-tested also get compensation, because they didn't contact every woman of child bearing age individually?

My stepmum might have donated it to charity given it to her daughter or wiped her arse with it. It doesn’t matter. It was hers to decide.

I find it astonishing that a site that lauds itself on being pro-women, driven by equality and "for mums" has so many posters that actually do not support the poorest women in society.

Any stats for that? Because I'm willing to bet that single mums, disabled women, women fleeing violence, refugee women, and others are poorer. Now, there's a Venn diagram. But I don't think late middle age alone is a good indicator that a woman will be 'the poorest'.

Why does being a woman mean you can't understand pensions or take responsibility for your financial future?

These changes were announced 30 years ago.

Waspi women are not necessarily the poorest in society at all, my Aunt is one so effected, very well off.

Bottom line is the change in state age retirement was well known and reported but the most important reason is the country has no money unless you want to reverse the unfunded NI cuts to pay for this?

Or any other taxes you'd like to see increased or services cut?

No it doesn't - because everybody "knew" that the pension for women was paid at 60. That was probably all they knew.

I find it astonishing that a site that lauds itself on being pro-women, driven by equality and "for mums" has so many posters that actually do not support the poorest women in society. But unsurprising. There were more complaints about a handful of rich farmers possibly having to pay inheritance tax.

Yanbu. It comes out of future generations pots. Generations that are already struggling.

I have worked since I was 16 I some form or other and as I worked full time every holiday from 16 to 21 I paid NI.

Of course most of the WASPI generation started work at 16. They didn't have half of them going to uni and not starting their careers till 21

This is true but the current generation of young people pay a phenomenal amount to go to uni and do it because it's difficult to get a professional job without a degree.

My mum is of the WASPI generation and she got free uni education, including an MA after her undergrad, as well as a final salary pension. She retired at 55. Of course she's one of the lucky ones but this kind of thing is a complete fantasy these days. I'm trying to save as much as I can as I have zero expectations of getting anything from the state in retirement.

Yet the Tories had 14 years to compensate but didn't, just ignored the issue.

The train drivers cost the govt very little but the dispute cost the country billions... & money spent in Syria will limit migration into Europe and hence the UK.

No one made an error, everyone knew about the change.

£10.3 billion would solve the dental crisis twice over, what good is £1k, sent to 1 million pensioners going to do for the UK

So many of these women really didn't know about or understand pensions, eligibility and all the rules that were associated with them.

This works both ways though. If women were so ill informed, that also means they were not relying on a particular state pension age and can’t say they planned around it.

Presumably you meant “till 67 years (of age)” not 67 years.

Of course most of the WASPI generation started work at 16. They didn't have half of them going to uni and not starting their careers till 21. And had things like not being able to get an occupational pension if they were part-time (eg when they had small children).

It doesn't affect me directly, although I was (just) born within the range affected, because I do not depend on my state pension and because I have always worked, so have a full state pension. However, I do think that people today often fail to realise the degree of social change that has taken place over my lifetime, especially for women. Where I grew up - an urban environment so not in the sticks! - most women did not stay in education past 16, few had careers and those that did often had massive interuptions in their working lives due to parental responsibilities. They didn't get to worry about the cost of nursery or how many free hours they could get and when they got them, because there were few nurseries and no free hours at all. If I am brutally honest, educated, thinking working class women were pretty rare. The normal expectation was leave school, work for a few years, court, marry and have babies (preferably in that order, but often not). News was something that many men and women paid scant attention to - the big stories, yes, but being "well informed" wasn't often an agenda item. And thinking about pensions was like the far distant future anyway.

So many of these women really didn't know about or understand pensions, eligibility and all the rules that were associated with them. Remember that their parents were amongst the first to ever see a state pension. It wasn't until 1946 that the universal state pension was introduced.

I think it is wrong, although unsurprising, that the Labour government has decided to refuse any payments after the ombudsmans recommendation. But after taking fuel allowance from the elderly, what is leaving many women in poverty? Thank God the Labour Party are on the side of the working men and women of the country. Otherwise we might blink and think the Tories got back in.

It’s the right decision. Generations below will be working 67 years or longer

I agree - I didn't really support the campaign in the first place and also I am finding it a bit galling to think this group can kick up a fuss and get this payout when my age group will likely not see a state pension until we're quote old, if at all.

Problem is although I agree with the decision there seems to be tons of money for train drivers etc. Clearly they are earning enough now so they can refuse Sunday working hence the lack of trains and the last minute cancellations.

Whomever agreed those terms with no changes to the contract needs to get some contract management training.

I am as anti-Labour as can be and disagree with almost everything the current government has done since coming to power, but on this one I agree it was the right decision. They should have known with or without a personal letter and the money is needed elsewhere given the state of the UK at the moment.

I started paying NI in 1994 (albeit for a summer job) and my state pension age was 60, it is currently 68 and will probably increase further.

Indeed. We all have a duty to keep up with this stuff. The state pension is a state benefit not a pension and it is your resposibility to check your eligibilty.

I doubt it’s a popular opinion but I agree.

There are of course some very sad individual cases, but others outside the Waspi group have also been affected. Whilst the original changes were decided close to 30 years ago some women didn’t realise that their pension age had gone straight from 60 to 65 and they aren’t even covered by the Waspi campaign.

There were other changes in 2016 with no individual letters that also negatively affected many more people.

I think that paying compensation to all, even when many people were actually aware, and had planned accordingly, would just open the floodgates for claims.

The bottom line is that the government is allowed to make changes, and this emphasises we probably have to make our own enquiries from time to time.

Not so. Maladministration was proven

Maladministration in communicating the changes...28 months late. As agreed by the ombudsman and the government.