AIBU in thinking the government have made the correct decision not to blanket pay all WASPI women £3k? This goes against the Ombudsman recommendations to pay between £1k-3k to every WASPI women.

They didnt make an error. The WASPI women said they didnt know about the changes. Anyone could claim they didnt understand or didnt get the memo!

Oh right so because lots of women understood screw the ones that didn't and needed it explained better?

Funny how Labour found the money to pay off the rail drivers et al, and £50m for syria and everything else, but suddenly it’s to much to find to make payment for an error a government department made?

WASPI women living up to the reputation of being the most entitled generation. They would literally see their grandchildren go to falling down schools if it means another cruise.

Complaining about getting better circumstances than their own children. It's insane.

Women have always worked. Only middle class women didn't, and no, tbh, I don't think a few years caring for preschoolers is a lifetime of work.

It doesn't affect me directly, although I was (just) born within the range affected, because I do not depend on my state pension and because I have always worked, so have a full state pension. However, I do think that people today often fail to realise the degree of social change that has taken place over my lifetime, especially for women. Where I grew up - an urban environment so not in the sticks! - most women did not stay in education past 16, few had careers and those that did often had massive interuptions in their working lives due to parental responsibilities. They didn't get to worry about the cost of nursery or how many free hours they could get and when they got them, because there were few nurseries and no free hours at all. If I am brutally honest, educated, thinking working class women were pretty rare. The normal expectation was leave school, work for a few years, court, marry and have babies (preferably in that order, but often not). News was something that many men and women paid scant attention to - the big stories, yes, but being "well informed" wasn't often an agenda item. And thinking about pensions was like the far distant future anyway.

So many of these women really didn't know about or understand pensions, eligibility and all the rules that were associated with them. Remember that their parents were amongst the first to ever see a state pension. It wasn't until 1946 that the universal state pension was introduced.

I think it is wrong, although unsurprising, that the Labour government has decided to refuse any payments after the ombudsmans recommendation. But after taking fuel allowance from the elderly, what is leaving many women in poverty? Thank God the Labour Party are on the side of the working men and women of the country. Otherwise we might blink and think the Tories got back in.

Quite.

I have to say I agree with the decision. The government dont have the money to spend and I have to be honest and say unless women were living under a rock how did they not get the information.

A couple of weeks the news were interviewing an elderly person who had just lost her late husband's pension. He had brought a single annuity. She didnt seem to understand that it was lost when he passed. She even mentioned that he took the 'higher' amount as two options had been offered but she only now knew what they really meant when her partner passed away.

Funny how Labour found the money to pay off the rail drivers et al, and £50m for syria and everything else, but suddenly it’s to much to find to make payment for an error a government department made?

I couldn’t agree with you more. I am disgusted by the comments. If this had happened to men it would have been settled long ago. Given that the Scottish Government have failed to account for 8 billion guven during covid, this amount is a drop in the ocean.

This affects the poorest women in the country who have already suffered having their winter fuel allowance removed.

20 years ago Gordon Brown identified the oap’s as being the most deprived in our society thus the reason for introducing the winter fuel payment.

Don’t worry all of you 30+ jummy mummy’s what goes around comes around. By the time that you retire there will be no state pension and you’ll be working till you drop

Being a woman still in my 50s - just - I had my retirement age pushed up from 60 to 65 back in the 1990s, (because I was born after 1960.) It was pushed up to 66 a few years later..

So I am struggling to care about the WASPI women. Especially as, in the late 1990s - several women at work who were several years older than me, laughed at me, when I was told I had to work to 65. (They only had to work til 60 because they were born before 1960.)

They stopped laughing when it all changed, and they had to work to the same age as me. (I started laughed.)

As I said, I'm struggling to care about them.

Does she lack imagination to think others may live more chaotic lives than hers or may have had other things to focus on. Without a direct call to action they may not have realised they were being targeted with ads and announcements in papers.

So many of these women really didn't know about or understand pensions, eligibility and all the rules that were associated with them.

This works both ways though. If women were so ill informed, that also means they were not relying on a particular state pension age and can’t say they planned around it.

Oh right so because lots of women understood screw the ones that didn't and needed it explained better?

I agree with the decision. I asked my mum who is in the age group and she said she knew all about it. She said there was tonnes of publicity and they gave her 20 years to prepare. She honestly had no idea how anyone could have missed it. She prepared accordingly. I feel for these ladies but if plenty of women understood I am not sure what else the government of the time could have done.

Well I didn’t get a letter saying mine was now 67 not 65…. Am I also entitled to compensation? Or, like any adult, did I do the right thing by keeping myself informed. Or is the argument that, as we are only women and can’t be expected to trouble our selves with complicated things like pensions, we need to be spoon fed. If taking away WFA and reducing private sector pay rises and increasing utility bills and mortgages is acceptable, I don’t see why this is any different.

I think it was the right decision. My mum is a waspi and is incredulous some others didn’t know what was going on. Giving them £10 billion while working families can’t afford to buy a tiny flat would be outrageous

What letters?

There wasn't proper notification of the pension age rising past 65

They didnt make an error. The WASPI women said they didnt know about the changes. Anyone could claim they didnt understand or didnt get the memo!