AIBU in thinking the government have made the correct decision not to blanket pay all WASPI women £3k? This goes against the Ombudsman recommendations to pay between £1k-3k to every WASPI women.

The Ombudsman has already established there was no ‘memo’

I started work in 1972, most of my contemporaries had been at work for two or three years.

This 👆 and for those who ignore the above and say that women born in the 1950s shouldn’t have been entitled to receive a state pension earlier that men. Bear in mind that much of their/our working lives were spent earning a fraction of that which men earned for equal work. In the 1970s and much of the 1980s, men’s salaries were described as a “family wage”, whilst women’s were described as “pin money”! This, to justify the pay discrepancy.

I and my DH have been loyal Labour supporters and, for a time, party members. I am disappointed, dismayed and puzzled by the policies of this Government. They came after pensioners within two weeks of holding office. They also confirmed they would not lift the two child cap on Child Benefit. They have since gone after tax dodging land owners. I agree with that, but I don’t understand where they hope to get future votes from, since they are alienating those on the left and those on the right!

Yes it was. It was a ridiculous movement. These women need to take a bit of personal responsibility I’m afraid. Younger generations probabaly wont even see retirement so I’m afraid I have little sympathy. Pension ages have constantly changed, most people would check at least once in 15 years. Entitlement at its finest.

@EmmaMaria

Now I have just heard it all - on MumsNet FFS. Women who raised children and kept homes "did not work for a lot of their lives"??? Those are your mothers and grandmothers you are speaking about and you want to suggest that they were lazy gits or kept women?

I'm raising a family and keeping a home. I also work full time, pay into a pension and keep myself informed about financial matters affecting my future. Do I get a gold star?

Fury as women hit by pension age rise denied payouts https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czr36842nd6o

There’s an interesting timeline in this BBC article. It was discussed as long ago as the 1990s. I would have been late 30s/early 40s. I maintain that it was always on the cards, talked about quite a lot and allowed women to get their ducks in a row. I have just got my state pension this year with 40+ years of full contributions. I have a private pension alongside that which I have always paid into, and I still do some consultancy type work even though I’m clearly flipping ancient.

I believe it is the correct decision.

That's not the case for the waspi women. These are women retiring now who started work in the 80s.

Everyone I know started working at 16/17 alongside college and uni. The only people who didnt work at uni were finded by rich parents

By the time I can claim my state and NHS pension (without significant penalties) I will have worked 52 years at the current estimates. I fully anticipate that this will rise before I get there.

Aren't we talking about before this website existed?

(And actually most people I know didn't know it existed when I came across it by chance 5 years ago — including highly educated friends I've told about it.)

That's pretty easy. Everyone is expected to check your pension entitlement periodically over the years and ensure you understand what you are on track to receive and you can plan accordingly.

https://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension

It’s nothing like the PO or blood scandal …..

I agree op. There's a lot of strain on public finances at the moment. If anyone in the affected cohort didn't know their state pension age, they should have found out. The people affected are those retiring now. They're not women who have had any significant time in their working lives with no equal pay act, etc.

I think it would be unconscionable to ask young people to pay higher taxes to fund payments to older women who's pensions aren't quite as good as they'd hoped, but are still a lot better than anything young people could hope for.

Go away and do your own research.

This is from the WASPI site, which makes it clear it’s about the 1995 Act as well as the others,

The initial aim of the WASPI Campaign was to achieve fair transitional arrangements for all women affected by the rapid increase to the SPA, with little notice to make alternative arrangements. This translated into a ‘bridging’ pension to provide an income until State Pension Age, not means-tested, and with recompense for losses for those women who have already reached their SPA

Actually if you're on universal credit you do have to do that monthly. But no, people shouldn't have to at all.

Why, of all the groups getting various compensation payouts, has this group be singled out not to receive an agreed amount?

We’re not. Go away and do some research. We’re 100% behind equalisation of pension age.

No.
It's about the maladministration of a 28 month delay in telling women about changed pension age. Waspi have never campaigned for or wanted women's retirement age to return to 60.

Some of them definitely are complaining about that

No.

They do seem intent on alienating as many people as they possibly can.

But the DWP did write to us to tell us or to me at least. I’m very nearly 67 and I distinctly remember getting letters to the effect that my SPA was changing.

Gawd I can’t believe we are on this again -it’s hilarious that people cannot believe we did not know -I’m a wasps and I did not know -I also got the Daily Telegrapg regularly and invested in shares which I read up on but I did not know the pension age had changed. Fortunately DH earned loads so I’m fine thanks -and to say we should regularly check -wtf call DWP monthly to ask if there’s changes, check community council hasn’t changes, any other allowances altered ?? So everyone of us contacts them on a ?monthly basis hahaha

Isn't that what the WASPIs are complaining about?