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MIL and the Christmas stocking

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Lumpofcoal · 17/12/2024 13:11

Major first world problems here.

DD is 4 and is very excited about Christmas. She has a Christmas stocking, and can just about read her name written on it. She’s going to hang it up on the fireplace on Christmas Eve and firmly believes the big man in red is going to fill it with presents. (They’re just little things - she does get a bigger present but it’s from us). She also has a new little brother - he also now has a stocking with his name on it and is going to be getting a few presents just to keep up appearances (they are coincidentally things that I might find useful). DD is very excited for him too.

Out of the blue, MIL has also bought DD a personalised stocking and filled it with presents. She will be at ours for Christmas and wants to see DD open it on Christmas morning. DS hasn’t got one. DH says there is no way she can be dissuaded from her plan without causing significant hurt and offence.

MIL is fundamentally nice - she’s being generous and just wants to do the whole Father Christmas thing again. I don’t actually want to ruin Christmas for her. But what is the best way to manage this with DD? It’s more than I would actually like her to get but I can’t see a way out of MIL giving it to her. Should it be from MIL? Or Father Christmas? And why hasn’t her brother got one? What’s the best explanation for her? And am I stuck with this every year now?!

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Topazmumma · 19/12/2024 08:14

We buy a stocking for our 2 grandchildren, DGD 2 and DGS 11 months, for when they arrive at ours on Xmas morning. Father Christmas is magical and visits all the houses in one night... you MIL must have said how good your DD has been so he left a stocking for her there too. 😊

As far as not buying for the baby though, I'm sorry but I would be firm, you buy for both or neither. Non negotiable.

Saveusernsme · 19/12/2024 07:17

My parents would tell my DC that Father Christmas had dropped presents at their house for DC too! Kids don’t give it a second thought, and it was never an issue.

I can assure you that your DD will not give too hoots how the stocking ended up with her, or why your son doesn’t have one.

EsmeSusanOgg · 19/12/2024 07:07

Lumpofcoal · 17/12/2024 18:20

😂 I always got underwear and thought this was totally normal and fine! I’ve put some in DDs stocking as it happens 😳

I’ve come to realise DH and I have very different ideas about FC - I think he brings undies (maybe that really is weird!) soap and pens - DH thinks he’ll bring you a games console…

Your Santa sounds more like my view of Santa (and fortunately DH's).

AlertCat · 19/12/2024 07:02

Someone else mentioned this but it’s a good argument to use: if some children get a ton of gifts from FC including expensive items, then back at school in January, those children who don’t will feel even worse- it adds a layer of guilt and shame that they aren’t nice, they’re naughty. Whereas if FC brings small gifts to people and the extra things are from our relatives, that’s different. Kids understand that not everyone can afford things, but FC is magic and affording it shouldn’t be part of that! Would Nana be open to hearing this, @Lumpofcoal ?

PomandersandRedRibbon · 19/12/2024 06:53

@healthybychristmas thank you for your honesty

JammieHands · 19/12/2024 06:49

Ive had to take a hard line with MIL a few times over Christmas. The first time was her hanging a Baby’s First Christmas ornament on her tree, with DD’s birth year. She also did the stocking thing a separate year, wanting Santa to bring a stocking there as well and couldn’t understand why this would be confusing. She was adamant the stocking would be from Santa and not from her. DH stepped in and no, she is not your baby, she doesn’t live at your house, this is not your do-over.

DinosaurMunch · 18/12/2024 23:38

OhBling · 17/12/2024 13:23

I would be pushing back HARD againt the idea of a separate santa stocking coming with MIL because it sets a precedent and, if your MIL is anything like MY MIl, her gifts will be ridiculously generous which we usually discourage as coming from Santa. Partly becuase I know the schools hate it when child 1 talks about the lovely Nintendo they got from Santa and child 2 got a couple of chocoolates...

I never get this argument. Does it make any difference to this poor child whether their classmates Nintendo came from Santa or parents? Is it meant to make them feel better that their own parents couldn't be arsed to make any effort, rather than Santa? (Or if you prefer, are so terribly poor - although I don't believe anyone is so poor they haven't got £20 once a year for Christmas presents)

Most kids young enough to believe in Santa won't be getting anything as expensive as a Nintendo anyway ... More likely a few toys and books...can be obtained from a charity shop or off Facebook marketplace for peanuts

JennyBG · 18/12/2024 23:23

Chocbuttonsandredwine · 17/12/2024 13:15

Truthfully although it probably seems like a big thing to think about and plan and stress over now, it doesn’t need to be.

Just roll with it, esp given you say MIL is normally nice.

“oh look FC has left you 2 stockings… how lovely… “ and you move on. In the grand scheme of Xmas and presents and eveything else it’s unlikely DD will notice

Or, you keep your stocking hidden and let DD open a present a day for the 2 weeks after Xmas. We did this one year as DS had so much and literally melted. He’s never questioned it… he’s 17 now 🤣

Problem with this, is that it implies that MIL’s stocking is more important, and then she will do it EVERY year 😕

healthybychristmas · 18/12/2024 23:10

By the children, I mean my son and his wife!

healthybychristmas · 18/12/2024 23:09

I think your mother-in-law needs to back off. I have a new granddaughter and yes of course I would love to push the children out of the way 🤣and do it all myself! I would fully expect to be told that certain things are for them to do,not me. Being a grandmother is such a special relationship and it's completely different from the parental role.

Buying and organising the Christmas stocking is the parents' job. She should not be pushing in on this. I think you should be quite firm and say "I know how much you love her but the mum and dad do the stocking and the grandparents bring lovely gifts. Please can you give her your presents without them being in a stocking? After all, you wouldn't have liked it if your mother-in-law had taken on that role when your DC were little, would you?"

She's coming for a good place but she's not letting you have the experience that she enjoyed so much. That is selfish ultimately.

Laura95167 · 18/12/2024 22:36

The Santa thing probably doesn't matter but your MIL not treating your kids equally does.

I'd tell her, both or none. Right from his birth you want it clear to both DC they're equal and loved the same. Dd is old enough to notice

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 18/12/2024 21:57

Lumpofcoal · 18/12/2024 17:29

I honestly don’t want to be too prescriptive about it - I just would like DD to believe for a couple of years as she is only 4! We will have 2 sets of grandparents with us on Christmas morning who have v different ideas - having some vaguely agreed approach feels important, otherwise competitive grandparenting will take over and/or someone will give the game away. (We already have a tacit baking competition underway, I don’t need competitive gifting as well!)

Agree everything with my ex mil felt like a competition. Really glad l don't have that crap now. She's overstepping and it needs to be dealt with.

Imisschocolate17 · 18/12/2024 21:46

It's from MIL - just stick to it being presents from granny, in a stocking. Not the same as the stocking she will wake up to from Santa.

I would also try not to overthink too much the number of presents, it sounds like it's very modest and she will enjoy the extra bits from Granny

PomandersandRedRibbon · 18/12/2024 21:41

@TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis excellent post.

No they are not one fuzzy warm hemongenous group

PomandersandRedRibbon · 18/12/2024 21:40

@MellowCritic such a simple respectful concept and yet the inaction of it causes others so, much, stress.

Just bloody ask!!

MellowCritic · 18/12/2024 21:26

To all grandparents out there. You've had your time with your kids now let your children have the same memories with theirs! Check that what you're arranging is wanted.

Toooldtopretend · 18/12/2024 21:17

when my first DS was 4 and second DS was 6 months first DS had a stocking whereas the 6month old had some pressies but not as many. We said that second DS knew he was very lucky to have lots of toys already (cos he had all the ones we already had) so had asked Father Christmas to give more toys to some other children who weren’t as lucky. I just couldn’t face yet more stuff we really didn’t need or want and we’re just buying for the sake of it 🙈

pineapplesundae · 18/12/2024 20:48

Dear mil had her chance to do things her way with her own children. You and your husband should set the parameters for your children and the grandparents should follow your lead. They shouldn’t get a do over at your expense.

Lollipop81 · 18/12/2024 19:20

The only problem i see id that she hasn’t got the baby one, he may not notice but your daughter and you certainly will. Personally im just grateful when other people buy my children things. It’s up to you to decide whether you want your child to know if its from FC or her, not up to your Mil.

Heidi2018 · 18/12/2024 18:26

Lumpofcoal · 17/12/2024 17:15

Thanks all for great advice - and lovely hearing people’s different traditions!

DH and I are from families with quite different approaches. I’m from quite a large family where FC brought small gifts for Christmas morning (think socks, small toys, chocs, pens etc) - and “big” presents were from family and opened in the evening. DH is an only child from a smaller family - FC apparently visited all his relatives at home and brought gifts for them to give to him (so all his presents were from FC).

MIL is on her own and therefore spends every Christmas with DH and me - she is usually dragged off to visit my relatives so doesn’t get much say in Christmas plans. I think she’s just keen to “be” FC as her relatives were for my DH - but I have too many relatives to maintain that sort of pretence for long.

We’ve agreed that DH will have a chat with MIL about the stocking being from her and opened in the evening with other family gifts - then we don’t have to have too much elaborate backstory about him visiting grandma. Fingers crossed this will go down ok, and I have no doubt DD will be delighted with her extra presents. (And no, of course DS isn’t going to give a single shiny sh*t about any of it - but I do want to pretend for DD!)

Interested to know what traditions of your DH's you've kept seeing as you had very different Christmases growing up?

Askingforafriendtoday · 18/12/2024 18:14

Hannaahhhh · 17/12/2024 13:16

I honestly can't see an issue here. I feel like you're overthinking this.

This!

Jazzyted · 18/12/2024 17:58

See if tell her outright after living through this! My firstborn was o my GS for a while and then when second child came along was treated differently. In the end I put my foot down and told her it wasn’t happening anymore. As they got older they started to notice

Mamasperspective · 18/12/2024 17:33

I would just tell her that you appreciate the gifts but your children already have personalised stockings from their parents so more than one will just cause confusion. Ask her to keep her stocking at home for when LO is older and realises that presents come from family and not from Santa.

Lumpofcoal · 18/12/2024 17:29

Therealmetherealme · 18/12/2024 15:55

I honestly struggle with how rigid some families are about Father Christmas, which presents are from who, where they are put or when they open them. Young kids don't care, any questions can easily be answered or swerved. Just enjoy, in reality there's probably only about 8 or less Christmas when kids understand and believe. Relax the rules.

I honestly don’t want to be too prescriptive about it - I just would like DD to believe for a couple of years as she is only 4! We will have 2 sets of grandparents with us on Christmas morning who have v different ideas - having some vaguely agreed approach feels important, otherwise competitive grandparenting will take over and/or someone will give the game away. (We already have a tacit baking competition underway, I don’t need competitive gifting as well!)

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Maray1967 · 18/12/2024 16:32

user2848502016 · 17/12/2024 20:17

MIL has overstepped, it's not her responsibility to do a stocking from Father Christmas. I would explain to MIL that the stocking needs to be from her or it will be massively confusing for DD

Good idea. And yes, she has overstepped. She should have asked first.

We have always spread Christmas over two mornings -my side come on Boxing Day and we did the ‘Santa left this at Granny and Grandad’s for you’. That worked fine for us. But MIL got wind of it and suggested to BIL that they could do the same, so that when they left ours and went to BIL’s they could bring DNs gifts and see them open them. SIL knocked that suggestion on the head immediately- she insisted that everything was left at theirs in advance and their DC opened everything on Christmas morning. DH and BIL pointed out that they had done that as DC so why were PIL trying to change it now?

It is up to the DCs’ parents how things should be done - GPs need to be sensitive and not try to get their own way.