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Kids clothes not going past age 14

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Username2101 · 16/12/2024 19:41

My DD has a Christmas party Thursday with her drama group. Money is a tad tight so I looked on Asda, Tesco etc for a party dress. Barely any have clothes for children over age 14. She's 10 but very tall and women's clothes just aren't suitable. I don't understand why they have done this? AIBU to complain?

OP posts:
purpleme12 · 16/12/2024 22:06

Yes all the places mentioned in this thread

WorriedRelative · 16/12/2024 22:03

Are there still places like Tammy Girl and Clock Warehouse at C&A that do teen ranges?

Tigresswoods · 16/12/2024 22:01

DS went through a period when he was about 12 where he was too big for kid's clothes but too small (skinny) for men's sizes.

It's incredibly irritating!

HooMoo · 16/12/2024 21:59

I agree they should go up to 16 years really. I think people are missing the point that children’s clothes don’t have vat but adult clothes do.

CautiousLurker01 · 16/12/2024 21:58

Dramatic · 16/12/2024 19:43

I suppose because 14 year olds are quite often the size of adults so it wouldn't make a lot of sense to have kids clothes bigger than that

This really - age 16 clothes are usually identically sized to adult size 10s. It’s a real issue if you have a young/tall child (daughter) who should still be wearing pre-teen clothes, not adults ones. I have a 16yo DS who is 6ft 4, and have struggled to get him clothes that fit him all his life - but mens clothes aren’t so wildly different (ie sexed up) compared to boys.

that said, have you looked at Next? They do ‘Long’ and ‘Plus’ sizes even in the children's’ range?

Username2101 · 16/12/2024 21:58

I would say she's around 5 for 4 now. Her dad is 6 foot 8 so I'm guessing she isn't going to stop growing any time soon.

She is a very young 10 in outlook and wants pretty sparkly dresses and most womens I've seen are either tight fitting, short or low cut. There seems to be no in-between

Thank you for the new look suggestions, I will have a look

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Mipil · 16/12/2024 21:54

StMarie4me · 16/12/2024 19:56

Apart from there is no VAT on kids' clothes so it absolutely would make sense.

Children’s clothes are only zero rated for VAT up to certain measurements, which are the standard age 14 clothes size, @StMarie4me. Presumably, HMRC set it at that size because any size larger than that would fit adults and businesses could use it as a loophole to sell adult clothing without VAT by calling them “children’s clothes”.

Eenameenadeeka · 16/12/2024 21:53

An annoying situation for you and your DD , I feel for her. But complaining wont change anything, they don't sell much in those sizes so they won't make it.

HellofromJohnCraven · 16/12/2024 21:51

I had this with my lovely third DD. She was 5'5" when she was 10/11 but slim as well. Fortunately there was a range called I think Manteray Junior that went up to age 13/14. I remember the lady thar worked in the shop said thar she could never imagine a 14 year old wearing them, but having met a tall 11 year old she understood the market!
Do next still do decent clothes?

TheFairyCaravan · 16/12/2024 21:50

I’m a size 6/8 and buy a lot of children’s clothes from M&S & Next. Their ranges are quite big imo

Thatcastlethere · 16/12/2024 21:48

I think technically many places do up to 16 but hardly ever have them in stock because they don't sell. Teens tend to want to wear adult clothes if they are big enough.
But M&S and Next definitely do do teenage sizes..
(I know because I've bought kids clothing frpm there in teen sizes so I could wear them lmao.. not to avoid vat but because I loved the item of clothing!!)
You'll probably have more luck online than you will in store, in looking for the teen sizes.

Bournetilly · 16/12/2024 21:45

Have you tried next? Not the cheapest though unfortunately.

Iwishiwasagiraffe · 16/12/2024 21:43

sparkellie · 16/12/2024 19:51

It's crap. My son is 16, average height but skinny as anything and trying to get trousers that fit is a nightmare, it was bad enough with kids stuff, but at least they were more likely to be available with an adjustable waist. There's nothing in the men's section he can wear, even joggers dont pull tight enough.
My daughter is 12 and taller than me, so lots of xs women's clothes, which is fine for trousers/tshirts/hoodies, but finding nice dresses is really hard, as most just aren't suitable for pre-teens in my opinion. I have found next do some things on line, and their sizes don't come up too small.

Same for my son. He’s 12, 5 foot 8 and a little beanpole. He’s having to go into men’s small for the length but then the trousers are ridiculous around the waist and legs. It’s a very awkward phase and I cant see him filling out for a while so he’s going to be stuck in it for ages. School trousers are fine because m and s do the extra extra long but sports ones are a nightmare

BuntyNuffins · 16/12/2024 21:43

Have you tried to search for "modest" dresses

ManyATrueWord · 16/12/2024 21:42

It's frustrating. Next and Very do size 15-16, which tracks as a women's 12.

TidalShore · 16/12/2024 21:41

Dramatic · 16/12/2024 19:57

But there's probably some sort of rules about the sizing they're allowed to do in childrens clothes for that exact reason

There is. And if an item is larger than the size guidelines, they have to be able to show the item is designed exclusively for under 14s to be zero rated. Which is probably why that is the general cut off for retailing of kids clothes.

workingmumguilt · 16/12/2024 21:40

I have a very tall/well built 10 nearly 11yr old too. She’s in adult size 6-8 stuff and her coat is a size 12.

We recently got her a shimmery skirt from Next online (went up to age 16) which we paired with a sparkle t shirt. Did well for a party and still age appropriate.

Too many tops and dresses even in XXS or size 6 are cut for curves which she hasn’t got yet

Gleeanda · 16/12/2024 21:40

@goneaway2 secondary school should be a big relief. They go up to proper adult sizes.

goneaway2 · 16/12/2024 21:31

I've had to get his school polo tops and jumpers especially made at the uniform shop for the past 2 years too! They take weeks to make.

goneaway2 · 16/12/2024 21:25

My 11 year old son is the size of a 15 year old, he's very tall. He also has adult size 10 feet. I've felt robbed everytime I've bought him clothes and shoes for years. Not been able to get the required black P.E. plimsoles for primary school for the past 2 years but the school have let me off!

HaddyAbrams · 16/12/2024 21:23

MiddleParking · 16/12/2024 21:05

I wear a size 6 in some women’s brands, 4 in others (ones that are more expensive/aimed at older women usually) and I very often find Primark’s adult size XXS too big for me, and I’m not an unusually skinny or short woman. I think it’s a combination of vanity sizing and a lack of QA. Women’s clothes sizing is incredibly inconsistent.

I find the opposite with Primark. My usual clothes size is about 3 inches too small.

EmberAsh · 16/12/2024 21:21

leia24 · 16/12/2024 20:05

Maybe you're not reading the OP because she wanted to know why kids clothes stop at that size and if she should complain

What? I'm saying whether a 14 year old wants to wear children's clothes or adult clothes is irrelevant. Her daughter is 10. Did you misread what I wrote as well as the OP?

Onlyonekenobe · 16/12/2024 21:17

My DD is going through that awkward phase: too tall for childrens sizes, no hips to speak of so can’t wear women’s dresses or skirts, and still too young for “grown up” tops etc. I think most kids go through an awkward phase. It’s pretty expensive!

MiddleParking · 16/12/2024 21:05

TeenLifeMum · 16/12/2024 20:57

Nope, primary 2xs is 4-6 and fits my very skinny 5’ tall 13yo. Size 4 wouldn’t fit a size 8 woman… that is like saying a size 14 woman can fit 10-12.

we have the issue that dd fits age 12 clothes but finds them babyish compared to what her peers wear in year 9 so primary 2xs has been amazing.

dd1’s best friend was very very tall in years 5 and 6 and couldn’t wear “party dresses” because the next age up was more mature. It’s really tricky and the teen to adult cross over feels like a big blurry gap due to stages of development. No idea what the answer is but H&M has been helpful. Also Brandy Melville for casual clothes because it is aimed at skinny tall teens.

I wear a size 6 in some women’s brands, 4 in others (ones that are more expensive/aimed at older women usually) and I very often find Primark’s adult size XXS too big for me, and I’m not an unusually skinny or short woman. I think it’s a combination of vanity sizing and a lack of QA. Women’s clothes sizing is incredibly inconsistent.