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To rip MIL a new one?

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Someadvice · 16/12/2024 16:17

For some context I’m late 20’s, engaged to be married next year to DP. MIL is a difficult woman. She is interfering and struggled to cut the cord with DP.

We now have strong boundaries with her as if we didn’t she would attempt to interfere in every inch of our lives. I don’t dislike her but do struggle (as does my DP) with her in more than short doses.

My relationship with my own Mother is strained at best. She is a narcissist and I grew up in a volatile household. I was placed on the child protection register as a teenager due to neglect and I almost ended up in care. I am low contact with her and would prefer it if it was no contact but familial relationships make this impossible as she controls them all. She can be fine for a while and then she will do something that causes me extreme upset so it is better if I just do not communicate with her unless necessary.

MIL has taken it upon herself to try and forge a relationship with my Mother despite having never met her and despite being told not to. She found her on Facebook and will constantly message her with details of our lives. Telling her what we’re up to and that we’re going to see her and do things with her. This has been led to abusive messages from my own Mum asking why we never go and see her.

My DP has told his Mum time and time again to leave my Mother alone. I’ve heard him on the phone, I’ve seen messages, he’s even gone to her house and sat her down for a chat. Told her I don’t really get along with my own Mum and it’s difficult and she shouldn’t get involved. She listens for a bit and then it starts again. The straw has broke the camels back today and I’ve found out MIL has invited my Mum over for a Christmas trip out and my Mum has accepted. I am fuming. I have done so well and been through years of therapy to help work through my childhood and keep my Mother at arms length and MIL is ruining all of my progress.

She clearly is not listening to DP. We are due to visit her for our annual Xmas visit in a few days and I want to rip her head off. I genuinely do not want to fall out with her but I’m not sure how else to get through to her here?

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thepariscrimefiles · 16/12/2024 18:25

PiggyPigalle · 16/12/2024 18:15

That's the most horrible expression in the heading. Especially one woman using it about another.

Yes, being the victim of childhood neglect and abuse pales into insignificance in comparison with using the phrase in the thread title. Glad that you've got your priorities right.

JustWalkingTheDogs · 16/12/2024 18:25

You've just replaced one abuser with another, your mil.

I'd cut contact with them both and ask your dh to not give your mil any details on your life, such as promotions etc. I'd certainly not be seeing either your dm or your mil over Christmas.

CockSpadget · 16/12/2024 18:25

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No you can’t, but a decent person wouldn’t want to forge a relationship with a child abusing stranger against their child’s wishes.

TorroFerney · 16/12/2024 18:24

PomandersandRedRibbon · 16/12/2024 18:02

@Highlandfandango

Attention : Margo Ledbetter is in the room.

Do not sully the name of Margot by likening her to that poster!!! Margot ripped the company who failed to deliver Christmas a new one if you remember!

ItsAMario · 16/12/2024 18:23

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Do not throw words like coercive control around when it’s clearly not the case. You are belittling women who are actually victims of this.

BTW, there is only one victim in this scenario and that is OP. She is the victim of child abuse.

BeAzureAnt · 16/12/2024 18:23

Grassgarden · 16/12/2024 16:49

I'm sorry, this really is terrible behaviour on her part. I agree, you need to cut contact with her to the absolute minimum. I am not sure that I would even bother to explain further what the history is, it is exhausting for you to do so and if she really cared then she would have listened to you already.

Yes, sometimes further communication isn't worth the effort. Low contact, grey rock, and enjoy your upcoming wedding with your fiancee.

Hannaahhhh · 16/12/2024 18:23

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A decent MIL wouldnt want to be anywhere near her DILs abusive mother. She would want to stand by her DIL and support her.

Hannaahhhh · 16/12/2024 18:22

@Jostuki Controlling, for trying to protect herself from the shit of a mother she has? You're clearly just one of those people who wants to have a pop, regardless of the fact that when you read the actual post her mother or MIL don't deserve to be anywhere near her.

I'm glad your shitty reply was deleted!

Watchmesing · 16/12/2024 18:20

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myladybelle · 16/12/2024 18:20

I don't have advice as such because it seems like an impossible situation, just sympathy. MIL is behaving shockingly poorly.

Watchmesing · 16/12/2024 18:19

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CockSpadget · 16/12/2024 18:19

Thats nuts. Have you asked MIL why she is ignoring your requests to not contact her? What is she getting out of it? Is she trying to make your mum jealous that she knows more about your life than her or something?

Someadvice · 16/12/2024 18:18

ItsAMario · 16/12/2024 18:02

I’m from Manchester and that’s a very common saying.

I am Northern and people say it here all the time! I didn’t realise it would cause so much offence. MIL definitely wouldn’t think I was vile or vulgar for saying it, I’ve heard her saying it loads.

It really wouldn’t be uncommon where I am to hear someone say “I told him to tidy his room before he went out three times and he still didn’t, I’m going to rip him a new one when he gets home” about their child. It’s just a figure of speech.

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Onlyvisiting · 16/12/2024 18:18

Stop telling her anything about your lives, don't share any pictures. Make it clear that she has repeatedly proven she can't be trusted with details of your life so she will no longer receive them. Do not tell her anything you are not comfortable with your mother knowing.
Do not go and visit her

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 16/12/2024 18:16

Giving the benefit of the doubt, she might not comprehend the level of trauma you experienced in your childhood, especially as you still have contact with your mother. I get it I'm not criticising, but people who don't understand the complexities of abusive parent child relationships won't. She probably is envisaging some kind of Disney happily ever after where you get married with both of you mothers there and everyone says how marvellous it is that you're all so happy now.
If you're comfortable, your DP needs to tell her the full extent of the abuse and trauma and that the only reason you have contact is because she lives with your ailing grandparents and she needs to stop because your mother is sending horrific messages based on the information she is providing. Show her some screen shots if it really needs hammering home.
If after that she persists. You will have to go NC. Your partner can see her but disclose no information about you.

Watchmesing · 16/12/2024 18:15

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PiggyPigalle · 16/12/2024 18:15

That's the most horrible expression in the heading. Especially one woman using it about another.

Endofyear · 16/12/2024 18:15

I would speak to MIL directly and tell her that as she has failed to listen to you and DP on this, you will no longer see her and that you will not be talking to her about anything going on in your lives as she can't be trusted with that information. Block her from your social media and keep your personal information to yourself.

TheCatterall · 16/12/2024 18:14

@Someadvice maybe your partner can explain to his mother once and for all that she will no longer be updated or informed of anything to do with you, as she can’t be trusted not to reach out to someone that has abused you and gave you an awful upbringing.

And that constantly crossing the boundaries you have set does not bode well for the future of children etc may be on the horizon.

Id be pulling right back from MIL to protect yourself. You aren’t punishing her. You are t stopping DP from seeing her - but you need to protect yourself until she can respect and understand that this boundary is non-negotiable.

If MIL continues then it’s not simple naivety. She purposely dismissing your feelings and wishes, knowing it hurts you and her son.

MyDeftDuck · 16/12/2024 18:13

Stop all contact with MIL and come off FB and all other social media altogether. That way she won't get to know what you're doing and will struggle to share anything with your own mother.

CallTheCalvery · 16/12/2024 18:13

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There’s one disgusting poster here and it’s not OP. I hope she rips the mil a new one! It’s my new favourite saying!!!

Clarice99 · 16/12/2024 18:11

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Are you the OP's MIL or the mother?

The OP has a very valid reason for her (repeated) request. The MIL is the one at fault in this situation.

PomandersandRedRibbon · 16/12/2024 18:09

@WhereYouLeftIt excellent post, I think you have summed it up perfectly. @Someadvice look at this posters post it's perfect.

Clarice99 · 16/12/2024 18:06

I definitely would not 'rip her a new one'.

Your MIL has repeatedly demonstrated she has zero respect for your boundaries, she'd had ample opportunity to modify her behaviour and she's chosen not to.

It's a horrible situation for you to be in @Someadvice In your shoes, I would go NC.

Doggymummar · 16/12/2024 18:06

I feel for you. My mother is toxic and has now started commenting on my friends FB posts as I won't respond to her directly. She told everyone about my divorce when I had told noone and then she moans I haven't seen her for 5 years. I'm so sorry you are suffering here.

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