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To rip MIL a new one?

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Someadvice · 16/12/2024 16:17

For some context I’m late 20’s, engaged to be married next year to DP. MIL is a difficult woman. She is interfering and struggled to cut the cord with DP.

We now have strong boundaries with her as if we didn’t she would attempt to interfere in every inch of our lives. I don’t dislike her but do struggle (as does my DP) with her in more than short doses.

My relationship with my own Mother is strained at best. She is a narcissist and I grew up in a volatile household. I was placed on the child protection register as a teenager due to neglect and I almost ended up in care. I am low contact with her and would prefer it if it was no contact but familial relationships make this impossible as she controls them all. She can be fine for a while and then she will do something that causes me extreme upset so it is better if I just do not communicate with her unless necessary.

MIL has taken it upon herself to try and forge a relationship with my Mother despite having never met her and despite being told not to. She found her on Facebook and will constantly message her with details of our lives. Telling her what we’re up to and that we’re going to see her and do things with her. This has been led to abusive messages from my own Mum asking why we never go and see her.

My DP has told his Mum time and time again to leave my Mother alone. I’ve heard him on the phone, I’ve seen messages, he’s even gone to her house and sat her down for a chat. Told her I don’t really get along with my own Mum and it’s difficult and she shouldn’t get involved. She listens for a bit and then it starts again. The straw has broke the camels back today and I’ve found out MIL has invited my Mum over for a Christmas trip out and my Mum has accepted. I am fuming. I have done so well and been through years of therapy to help work through my childhood and keep my Mother at arms length and MIL is ruining all of my progress.

She clearly is not listening to DP. We are due to visit her for our annual Xmas visit in a few days and I want to rip her head off. I genuinely do not want to fall out with her but I’m not sure how else to get through to her here?

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ItsAMario · 16/12/2024 19:00

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Yes but she was once an abused child. A child who was placed on a child protection plan. Do you know what a child must endure to be placed on a child protection plan? Why are you defending the mil and the abuser in this situation?

says a lot about your character.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 16/12/2024 18:58

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Oh give it a rest - you've had your say repeatedly and you're wrong.

ItsAMario · 16/12/2024 18:58

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The only disgusting poster is YOU.

I love that women are becoming more aware of what coercion and emotional abuse is but this is not it. Casually throwing around the terms is offensive and you are contributing towards the reason why women are not believed.

You are the only person with this belief on this thread so I have to believe you are doing it for a reaction. Are you really that bored?

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 16/12/2024 18:58

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That's bullshit.

If my friend had abused you, then I wouldn't want to see them again either!!

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 16/12/2024 18:57

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You can enact consequences of their actions if they persist and I think that's what needs to be done here.

MIL is not interacting with the mum for any good reason - she's shitstirring, and she knows it!!

Watchmesing · 16/12/2024 18:56

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Florol · 16/12/2024 18:55

I'm guessing no father/FiL to back you up? You need to grey rock them both. Partner should stop going round to his mother, maybe he could meet her at a coffee shop on neutral territory?

Watchmesing · 16/12/2024 18:55

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wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 16/12/2024 18:55

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No, it's not! Wise up!

Someadvice · 16/12/2024 18:55

Onlyvisiting · 16/12/2024 18:46

But why did she know about your promotion? I'm assuming your dh shares things when chatting, which he should be able to do but I think you need to get him to agree that he doesn't share any details at all about your life (i mean yours, not your DHs, he can do what he likes) . Zero.

The promotion was last year and we haven’t shared anything since but it is still hard. When we went out for a meal for BIL birthday she messaged my Mum “excited to see them both for a meal on this date”. It also means we have to be incredibly careful what we say to any of his siblings or his partners as stuff creeps through.

We have good relationships with his siblings and for the most part they are good with it but they do sometimes accidentally share stuff with her in convo. I don’t post anything about my life on social media so it’s not that. My last Facebook post was 2022 when I changed my pp

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2021x · 16/12/2024 18:53

OP

Check if you still want to be married into this family.

If yes… Elope and move to Australia for a couple of years of peace.

Also “rip someone a new one” is fine. Don’t feed the trolls

Watchmesing · 16/12/2024 18:53

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Topseyt123 · 16/12/2024 18:53

It doesn't sound like your MIL is very well endowed in the emotional intelligence department (or any other sort of intelligence, come to that). She may also be being manipulative too.

I would not visit her this Christmas (your mother will almost certainly be there if you do). I would cut contact because that seems to be the only language she might understand.it could be the only way.

It sounds like your MIL and your mother actually deserve each other so leave them to it.

Make absolutely certain that neither can find out any details about the wedding at all. Be watertight there or at least one of them will probably turn up, and possibly both. So best to tell nobody at all in case it gets back to them.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 16/12/2024 18:52

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You can ask them, and in the circumstance there's a very valid reason, so MIL should respect that!

WTF does she want to see the OP's mother anyway, other than to cause trouble, the auld witch!?

CockSpadget · 16/12/2024 18:52

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Or maybe she wasn’t, maybe she was just a horrible person. That’s beside the point. As someone further up said, there is no reasoning with you. For some reason you want to side with a child abuser and her new friend, over the abused child. Very strange.

Watchmesing · 16/12/2024 18:50

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wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 16/12/2024 18:49

Dotto · 16/12/2024 17:59

I like it.

So do I. I use that phrase too.

It's very evocative!!

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 16/12/2024 18:48

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The MIL's first loyalty should be to her son!!!

Onlyvisiting · 16/12/2024 18:46

Someadvice · 16/12/2024 17:13

I think the harder part of it to wrap my head around is that when she messages her it doesn’t look like it’s to snitch or bitch about us it’s more “oh I’m so proud of your beautiful daughter on her promotion at work what a lovely job you did of raising such a lovely woman” and then my Mum will screenshot it and use it as a stick to beat me with.

MIL genuinely comes across as so oblivious to everything and I’m not sure if it’s all an act to get away with it or she really is like that. I’m very aware that my own upbringing has probably made me hold onto this situation a bit more as I didn’t have someone to show me how a healthy Mother parent relationship should be, and I think my longing for that has lead me to be more forgiving. You are all right though, I am not going to see her this Xmas. I will speak to DP about it when he’s home.

But why did she know about your promotion? I'm assuming your dh shares things when chatting, which he should be able to do but I think you need to get him to agree that he doesn't share any details at all about your life (i mean yours, not your DHs, he can do what he likes) . Zero.

thepariscrimefiles · 16/12/2024 18:45

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Telling his mum not to contact a woman who was responsible for OP's childhood abuse and neglect is not coercive control.

Anyway, there's no reasoning with you. You are more critical of OP and her DH than a child abuser and her new sidekick.

diddl · 16/12/2024 18:45

Of course you can't stop one adult contacting another.

But why would you want to have anything to do with your DIL's mum if she was so bloody awful?

Pensionswew · 16/12/2024 18:45

Honestly OP, you have gone from one toxic family to another one.

Your MIL is as toxic as your birth mother.

She doesn't care a whit for you.
She doesn't care if she upsets you.
She doesn't respect you.
She has the narcissists characteristic of knowing what is best about everything.

I wouldn't have anything further to do with her and I would caution you marrying a man from such a family.

What if you have children and he wants to become involved with his mother again?

You are so young to be going from one toxic family to another one.

You deserve better than a drama filled future family after your childhood.

I wouldn't dream of going near your MIL again.
I would spell it out to your partner that you will have nothing futher to do with his poisonous mother.
She is no better than your own mother.
If your partner chooses to visit your mother on his own, I really would rethink marrying him because this will be your toxic future.

Stormyweatheroutthere · 16/12/2024 18:44

They sound like they will make a great friendship... Never see either of them ime... It's a great life.. So stress free.

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