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Was I unreasonable to let my friend walk to the train station alone on a night out?

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Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 14:21

I'm aware that the title sounds very bad and I'm thinking I may get a lot of angry comments. Last month, my friends and I went out for drinks in the city centre for my birthday. None of us bar one live in the city, and public transport is not great here with trains being few and far between. Since we went out around 4pm, I wasn't planning on us staying out too late but we didn't make any 'set in stone' plans on what time to go home.
3 of us (myself, Friend 1 and Friend 2) live in the same general direction, with the last 2 trains going home in that direction being at 9pm and then 10.50pm.
After we had our meal we went to a bar round 7.30pm and it didn't feel like we were there very long before Friend A said she should be going soon to get the 9pm train as she didn't want her mum to pick her up from the train station late at night.
The atmosphere was only starting to be good and neither me nor the others wanted to leave so early. Friend 1 hadn't had many drinks and was nowhere near drunk. Friend 2 offered to get the train home with her at 9, Friend 1 declined. We offered to walk her to the station (20 minute walk each way for us which is quite lengthy) and she declined. Friend 1 said she would walk to the station alone while talking on the phone to a relative to feel safe.
We said goodbye and texted her soon after to make sure she got on the train okay, she told us she did but had gotten lost on the way there.
We are going out again this week and she said she will try to get a lift home to save her walking alone.
Were we bad friends to not go with her? It's not like we didn't offer but I still feel a tad guilty despite it being relatively early in the evening. I don't plan on doing this again.

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saraclara · 16/12/2024 14:49

I once had a colleague force me to let her walk me to the car park at 10pm in a nearby town, when I was leaving a work do earlier than the rest. She kept on and on about how it wasn't remotely safe for me to walk there alone. But of course her escorting me there meant that she then had to walk back to the event alone. She couldn't seem to get the illogicality of it all.

I was in my late 50s at the time and perfectly used to walking alone at night. She was about 30, and probably at more (though still tiny) risk than I was.

kiraric · 16/12/2024 14:48

SallyWD · 16/12/2024 14:42

Yes, it could be a stranger, but the chance is so small that I don't give it any headspace. I could also be knocked down by a bus. I think the amount of fear people have about being attacked by a stranger, massively outweighs the actual risk.

Agree.

Far more women die at the hands of their partner but we don't suggest you're a bad friend if you don't chaperone your friends on every date

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 14:48

fairycakes1234 · 16/12/2024 14:46

Very hard to insist someone gets a taxi when she said she was walking, chwnces are she would have said she was fine walking, OP yanbu, she wasn't drunk and it wasn't that late and she got home okay so I'd put it out of your head

I've always been an overthinker! :)

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Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 14:48

Fireworkwatcher · 16/12/2024 14:45

I think friend probably felt obliged to say she was ok walking alone because it was your birthday . The reality is she wasn’t . If you can’t all coordinate properly then I suggest you all use uber if you want to leave separately . Probably means one less drink when you are out to pay for it ! When I was 20 I often walked back alone for 20 mins as my friends lived nearer to college than me . I was followed one night . That was 30 years ago and as a mum I would hope my kids would look out for their friends . My DSD who is 23 always uses uber

Yes I think the first part of this is true and I guess that's partly why I feel bad... she never said anything but I have a gut instinct she was unhappy about walking alone.

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fairycakes1234 · 16/12/2024 14:48

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 14:45

I live in Northern Ireland where 7 women have been killed this year. I suppose it may not sound that extreme compared to other countries but there is a lot of news coverage on it here.

7 women walking home at night?

alexdgr8 · 16/12/2024 14:47

Encourage her 9r any woman to get a cab to the station if alone after dark.
That would also reassure her mother.
When I was young I'd have thought nothing of walking.

I am now much older.
And wiser.

Trainors · 16/12/2024 14:46

She’s a grown up and can make her own decisions about safety. It’s not your responsibility to keep her safe. She should call a cab for the 20 min walk if worried.

Onlycoffee · 16/12/2024 14:46

I don't know if NI is different but 9pm in a city centre isn't late.

fairycakes1234 · 16/12/2024 14:46

Wendysfriend · 16/12/2024 14:29

Sorry I'd never leave anyone to walk alone especially if it's a place with recent violence. I would have ensured she got a taxi . Attacks can happen at any time of the day

Very hard to insist someone gets a taxi when she said she was walking, chwnces are she would have said she was fine walking, OP yanbu, she wasn't drunk and it wasn't that late and she got home okay so I'd put it out of your head

Fireworkwatcher · 16/12/2024 14:45

I think friend probably felt obliged to say she was ok walking alone because it was your birthday . The reality is she wasn’t . If you can’t all coordinate properly then I suggest you all use uber if you want to leave separately . Probably means one less drink when you are out to pay for it ! When I was 20 I often walked back alone for 20 mins as my friends lived nearer to college than me . I was followed one night . That was 30 years ago and as a mum I would hope my kids would look out for their friends . My DSD who is 23 always uses uber

JabbaTheBeachHut · 16/12/2024 14:45

This thread is a bit ridiculous really.

You've told us you did all you could in offering to accompany her, so I don't understand your problem?

Plus as an adult I'm sure she's capable of getting herself a taxi if she wanted one.

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 14:45

Toopulululu · 16/12/2024 14:37

What constitutes “recent violence”?

This week, last week, last month? The Civil war?

You’ll be hard pressed to find any city centre that doesn’t have “recent violence”.

I live in Northern Ireland where 7 women have been killed this year. I suppose it may not sound that extreme compared to other countries but there is a lot of news coverage on it here.

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SallyWD · 16/12/2024 14:42

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 14:37

I mean, in the recent epidemic over here, most women have been murdered/assaulted by people they know such as partners or ex-partners. Not saying it can't be a stranger though. But the statistics are true.

Yes, it could be a stranger, but the chance is so small that I don't give it any headspace. I could also be knocked down by a bus. I think the amount of fear people have about being attacked by a stranger, massively outweighs the actual risk.

Livinginaclock · 16/12/2024 14:40

Toopulululu · 16/12/2024 14:37

What constitutes “recent violence”?

This week, last week, last month? The Civil war?

You’ll be hard pressed to find any city centre that doesn’t have “recent violence”.

Recent violence?
Male on male violence which usually is.
It's very rare for a man to attack an unknown female.

OhBling · 16/12/2024 14:39

I wouldn't have offered to walk her.

And if I was her, I'd either walk it without a problem - city centre, not that late - or I'd call a cab.

Toopulululu · 16/12/2024 14:37

Wendysfriend · 16/12/2024 14:29

Sorry I'd never leave anyone to walk alone especially if it's a place with recent violence. I would have ensured she got a taxi . Attacks can happen at any time of the day

What constitutes “recent violence”?

This week, last week, last month? The Civil war?

You’ll be hard pressed to find any city centre that doesn’t have “recent violence”.

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 14:37

SallyWD · 16/12/2024 14:35

Honestly, I've been walking around alone at night since I was about 16. It's a completely alien concept to me that grown adults can't walk alone. It just doesn't make sense to me.
I'm 50, never been attacked by a random stranger. I don't know anyone who has. I do know plenty of people who've been assaulted by their partners though.

I mean, in the recent epidemic over here, most women have been murdered/assaulted by people they know such as partners or ex-partners. Not saying it can't be a stranger though. But the statistics are true.

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Livinginaclock · 16/12/2024 14:37

YANBU.
I often go out on my own so obviously get myself home.
I'm aware there's dangers but I'm not going to stay in.

Hayley1256 · 16/12/2024 14:37

Mumsntfan1 · 16/12/2024 14:34

So you never walk anywhere alone?

There's a general code on nights out about sticking together and not leaving a drunk friend to find their own way home at night. This instance was different but I can see why the OP asked. I think people are responding to a 'night out scenario' not saying no-one should ever walk any where alone

museumum · 16/12/2024 14:37

9pm in a city centre and not drunk is perfectly reasonable for walking to the train alone. I don't know how anybody could function if they weren't willing to do this. It's not remotely like abandoning a drunk friend in a club in the wee small hours.

SallyWD · 16/12/2024 14:35

Honestly, I've been walking around alone at night since I was about 16. It's a completely alien concept to me that grown adults can't walk alone. It just doesn't make sense to me.
I'm 50, never been attacked by a random stranger. I don't know anyone who has. I do know plenty of people who've been assaulted by their partners though.

Mumsntfan1 · 16/12/2024 14:34

Wendysfriend · 16/12/2024 14:29

Sorry I'd never leave anyone to walk alone especially if it's a place with recent violence. I would have ensured she got a taxi . Attacks can happen at any time of the day

So you never walk anywhere alone?

FranklyMyDears · 16/12/2024 14:34

Stormyweatheroutthere · 16/12/2024 14:31

She's an adult. Presumably fully functional? She should be able to get herself home.
Without her dm coming to get her either...

This.

Moonlightstars · 16/12/2024 14:33

9pm? No problem.

Toopulululu · 16/12/2024 14:33

You’re not unreasonable.

9pm in a city centre is fine.

You also offered and she declined.