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Was I unreasonable to let my friend walk to the train station alone on a night out?

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Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 14:21

I'm aware that the title sounds very bad and I'm thinking I may get a lot of angry comments. Last month, my friends and I went out for drinks in the city centre for my birthday. None of us bar one live in the city, and public transport is not great here with trains being few and far between. Since we went out around 4pm, I wasn't planning on us staying out too late but we didn't make any 'set in stone' plans on what time to go home.
3 of us (myself, Friend 1 and Friend 2) live in the same general direction, with the last 2 trains going home in that direction being at 9pm and then 10.50pm.
After we had our meal we went to a bar round 7.30pm and it didn't feel like we were there very long before Friend A said she should be going soon to get the 9pm train as she didn't want her mum to pick her up from the train station late at night.
The atmosphere was only starting to be good and neither me nor the others wanted to leave so early. Friend 1 hadn't had many drinks and was nowhere near drunk. Friend 2 offered to get the train home with her at 9, Friend 1 declined. We offered to walk her to the station (20 minute walk each way for us which is quite lengthy) and she declined. Friend 1 said she would walk to the station alone while talking on the phone to a relative to feel safe.
We said goodbye and texted her soon after to make sure she got on the train okay, she told us she did but had gotten lost on the way there.
We are going out again this week and she said she will try to get a lift home to save her walking alone.
Were we bad friends to not go with her? It's not like we didn't offer but I still feel a tad guilty despite it being relatively early in the evening. I don't plan on doing this again.

OP posts:
LlynTegid · 16/12/2024 15:25

Location would have a bearing to me. Though in any case you offered.

5128gap · 16/12/2024 15:24

Just to add, as its Christmas the shops are open in my city centre until 10pm at the moment so it really is like day time out there. Families shopping with children looking at the lights, going to the Christmas Market etc.

Spoink · 16/12/2024 15:23

I wouldn't take a taxi or expect to be escorted the train station at 9pm in what sounds like a busy city centre. We just had our work night out and people were coming from all over so people peeled off at various points in the evening to go to the train station. In fact I am taking my 5yo to the panto on Thursday and we will probably get train there and back, so we will be walking about 10 mins from theatre to train station through city centre at 10pm. There's loads of people about, particularly this time of year and last year DD loved seeing the lights.

If she was walking somewhere remote or less busy then I'd have suggested she get a Uber or something, but assuming it's a well-trodden path then I think you did fine.

Delatron · 16/12/2024 15:20

If she was shooting for a 9pm train she would have left at 8.30pm. In a busy town/city? Some peoole leave work at that time. It’s really not late at all. You offered and she declined.

Manara · 16/12/2024 15:19

Gloriia · 16/12/2024 15:16

'The friend should have planned better. Maybe she should have asked to stay the night with one of her friends.'

Yes she should have planned better, she didn't though and in these circumstances friends tend to stick together rather than one going off alone. Still, they did have a corner seat and it would've spoilt the night.

One of our dcs ended up getting a train back earlier once with their friend. It is what pals do, stick together.

By the time OP came back from the walking her friend home, it would be around 9.30. Then she would have to leave again around 50 minutes later to get to the station for her own train.

In what world does that make sense?

5128gap · 16/12/2024 15:16

Gloriia · 16/12/2024 15:07

'I'm pretty risk averse but even I think 9pm in a city is fine'

20 mins, after a few hours drinking walking alone to a train station? There is not a chance I'd wave a friend off alone just because I had a nice corner seat.

Really? 20 minutes through my local city centre at 9pm is about as safe as it gets. Not only are the streets full of people, but there's police all over the place, at the station too. I feel more at risk in the very early dark mornings. Nothing to do with the quality of your seat, its the risk assessment which for me would be low risk.

Gloriia · 16/12/2024 15:16

'The friend should have planned better. Maybe she should have asked to stay the night with one of her friends.'

Yes she should have planned better, she didn't though and in these circumstances friends tend to stick together rather than one going off alone. Still, they did have a corner seat and it would've spoilt the night.

One of our dcs ended up getting a train back earlier once with their friend. It is what pals do, stick together.

Manara · 16/12/2024 15:15

alexdgr8 · 16/12/2024 14:57

OP
I think the fact that your friend told you that she had got lost en route to the station indicates that she was not totally OK.

It may have been subconscious.
She felt conflicted.
She would have appreciated support but didn't feel entitled to it.

If I told friends that I was fine to walk to the station alone (not being drunk) and they insisted on walking with me, I would find it pretty infantilising.

BackForABit · 16/12/2024 15:13

When I was at uni (10 years ago), I used to work in a bar then walk / get bus / metro home late at night alone. We all did.

I understand post high profile cases how women feel unsafe alone in the dark but there's a bit of a balancing act because surely we don't all want to change our behaviour so much we effectively have to have chaperones or kerfews to feel safe.

Not sure what the answer is but as your friend said she was OK to walk and wasn't drunk I think it was OK.

Manara · 16/12/2024 15:10

Gloriia · 16/12/2024 15:07

'I'm pretty risk averse but even I think 9pm in a city is fine'

20 mins, after a few hours drinking walking alone to a train station? There is not a chance I'd wave a friend off alone just because I had a nice corner seat.

Not a chance I would walk someone sober home a 40 minute round trip to the station. By the time OP got back she would have to make the journey soon again!

The friend should have planned better. Maybe she should have asked to stay the night with one of her friends.

Gloriia · 16/12/2024 15:07

'I'm pretty risk averse but even I think 9pm in a city is fine'

20 mins, after a few hours drinking walking alone to a train station? There is not a chance I'd wave a friend off alone just because I had a nice corner seat.

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 15:06

Must add that our actions would have been totally different had she actually have been very drunk. The friend who lives in the city took it way too far on a previous outing (it was actually Friend 1's birthday). We all got a taxi to her house to make sure she got in alright as she wouldn't have been able to get home alone. Then we went back to the bar. Was pretty crap and took an hour out of the night but we couldn't have abandoned her.

OP posts:
Catza · 16/12/2024 15:06

You offered, she declined. Most importantly, she got home safely so nothing actually happened to warrant this worry.

Gloriia · 16/12/2024 15:03

' think friend probably felt obliged to say she was ok walking alone because it was your birthday . The reality is she wasn’t . If you can’t all coordinate properly then I suggest you all use uber if you want to leave separately'

Exsctiy she of course wouldn't have wanted to spoil the night by being escorted. Better planning needed next time all round.

Stormyweatheroutthere · 16/12/2024 15:03

Does she not have a phone? Google maps is quite an effective /efficient tool... Why should one adult have to ensure another does what they decide not what they themselves have decided? What an odd suggestion..

Manara · 16/12/2024 15:01

Wendysfriend · 16/12/2024 14:29

Sorry I'd never leave anyone to walk alone especially if it's a place with recent violence. I would have ensured she got a taxi . Attacks can happen at any time of the day

Taxis don't always save you. Libby Squire was a 21 yo woman murdered in 2019. Her friends put her in a taxi, which dropped her home but it didn't save Libby.

5128gap · 16/12/2024 14:59

No, you're fine imo. I'm pretty risk averse but even I think 9pm in a city is fine. In my city its nearly as busy as day time. Plus you offered and she declined. You are a good friend with nothing to worry about.

Manara · 16/12/2024 14:58

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 14:54

Hahaha well that was my thought process at the time, 40 minutes is a big chunk out of the night when the last train is at 10.50pm, plus we had a nice table in the corner.

Glad you stayed and enjoyed your evening.

A friend gave me some tips 20 years ago for walking alone at night years ago (wear a cap, trainers, jeans etc - basically try to look like a man). Appreciate not always easy if on a night out!

Might also be worth carrying one of those mini bottles of hairspray in case you need to spray in someone's eyes!

Wendysfriend · 16/12/2024 14:58

Mumsntfan1 · 16/12/2024 14:34

So you never walk anywhere alone?

It's a bit different when you're out for a night, drink taken and the girl got lost a few times which proves she actually wasn't ok walking alone. She could have ended up anywhere .

alexdgr8 · 16/12/2024 14:57

OP
I think the fact that your friend told you that she had got lost en route to the station indicates that she was not totally OK.

It may have been subconscious.
She felt conflicted.
She would have appreciated support but didn't feel entitled to it.

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 14:54

Manara · 16/12/2024 14:52

Friend 2 offered to get the train home with her at 9, Friend 1 declined. We offered to walk her to the station (20 minute walk each way for us which is quite lengthy) and she declined. Friend 1 said she would walk to the station alone while talking on the phone to a relative to feel safe.
We said goodbye and texted her soon after to make sure she got on the train okay

You did WAY more than I would have done. No way would I have offered to leave a cosy, warm place to walk someone a 40 minute round trip to the station.

I would have just told her to text us when she got home and thought no more of it for an hour or so.

Edited

Hahaha well that was my thought process at the time, 40 minutes is a big chunk out of the night when the last train is at 10.50pm, plus we had a nice table in the corner.

OP posts:
Wendysfriend · 16/12/2024 14:54

Toopulululu · 16/12/2024 14:37

What constitutes “recent violence”?

This week, last week, last month? The Civil war?

You’ll be hard pressed to find any city centre that doesn’t have “recent violence”.

The op said there had been a lot of violence recently. Civil war has nothing to do with it

Manara · 16/12/2024 14:52

Friend 2 offered to get the train home with her at 9, Friend 1 declined. We offered to walk her to the station (20 minute walk each way for us which is quite lengthy) and she declined. Friend 1 said she would walk to the station alone while talking on the phone to a relative to feel safe.
We said goodbye and texted her soon after to make sure she got on the train okay

You did WAY more than I would have done. No way would I have offered to leave a cosy, warm place to walk someone a 40 minute round trip to the station.

I would have just told her to text us when she got home and thought no more of it for an hour or so.

alexdgr8 · 16/12/2024 14:51

Saraclara
You could have driven your colleague back to the venue ?

Gloriia · 16/12/2024 14:49

She should've got a taxi to the station. There is no way I'd want my dd walking alone at night. I accept that sadly women are attacked anywhere and anytime but you lessen the risk by staying with friends or getting taxis.

Maybe the next night out you all share lifts or agree on leaving times?