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Was I unreasonable to let my friend walk to the train station alone on a night out?

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Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 14:21

I'm aware that the title sounds very bad and I'm thinking I may get a lot of angry comments. Last month, my friends and I went out for drinks in the city centre for my birthday. None of us bar one live in the city, and public transport is not great here with trains being few and far between. Since we went out around 4pm, I wasn't planning on us staying out too late but we didn't make any 'set in stone' plans on what time to go home.
3 of us (myself, Friend 1 and Friend 2) live in the same general direction, with the last 2 trains going home in that direction being at 9pm and then 10.50pm.
After we had our meal we went to a bar round 7.30pm and it didn't feel like we were there very long before Friend A said she should be going soon to get the 9pm train as she didn't want her mum to pick her up from the train station late at night.
The atmosphere was only starting to be good and neither me nor the others wanted to leave so early. Friend 1 hadn't had many drinks and was nowhere near drunk. Friend 2 offered to get the train home with her at 9, Friend 1 declined. We offered to walk her to the station (20 minute walk each way for us which is quite lengthy) and she declined. Friend 1 said she would walk to the station alone while talking on the phone to a relative to feel safe.
We said goodbye and texted her soon after to make sure she got on the train okay, she told us she did but had gotten lost on the way there.
We are going out again this week and she said she will try to get a lift home to save her walking alone.
Were we bad friends to not go with her? It's not like we didn't offer but I still feel a tad guilty despite it being relatively early in the evening. I don't plan on doing this again.

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RosieLeaf · 16/12/2024 16:06

I used to get the train home from work at that time. You didn’t do anything wrong.

rookiemere · 16/12/2024 16:05

I can't see what you did wrong. If she wants to leave that early it's on her to either get a taxi or uber to the station or walk there.

If you had accompanied her then the night out would have been over before 9.

Thelittlehouseonthehill · 16/12/2024 16:02

When she said about not wanting to walk alone the next time did you remind her you gave her other options so she didn’t have to do that but she insisted?
Don’t feel bad, you all tried to offer to go with her but she said no.

Funkyslippers · 16/12/2024 15:56

I'm assuming she left around 8.30pm. There would no doubt be people around. She also declined any offers of help, as I would have done. YANBU

Givemethreerings · 16/12/2024 15:55

Given how young and unsteetwise you all are I think YABU and you should have found a way to walk your friend to the station. Especially on a Saturday night when she’s been drinking.

Who with any common sense would think walking alone to a train station On Her Phone is a safety measure! It’s the opposite. Increases risk of robbery, assault. You should have all chipped in for an Uber for her or walked her to the station then found another bar near there.

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 15:54

GinAndJuice99 · 16/12/2024 15:53

Of course you did nothing wrong. You can't be expected to take 40 minutes out of your evening to walk someone to the station. If she's worried about walking alone she can just get a taxi to the station, surely? Guessing you can't have Uber where you are but you must have taxis, no?

In fairness, getting a taxi at such short notice can be a challenge at 8.30pm on a Friday night, but it's not impossible

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GinAndJuice99 · 16/12/2024 15:53

Of course you did nothing wrong. You can't be expected to take 40 minutes out of your evening to walk someone to the station. If she's worried about walking alone she can just get a taxi to the station, surely? Guessing you can't have Uber where you are but you must have taxis, no?

HolyPeaches · 16/12/2024 15:51

Livinginaclock · 16/12/2024 14:40

Recent violence?
Male on male violence which usually is.
It's very rare for a man to attack an unknown female.

🙄🙄

BuzzieLittleBee · 16/12/2024 15:51

I wouldn't think twice about a 1 mile walk through a city centre at 8.30pm. I most definitely wouldn't expect to be escorted to the station by my friends, if they were still enjoying their evening out.

I might be pissed off if the pre-agreed arrangement was that everyone would be going to the station at 9pm, and then the others changed their minds, if I had been wary of making the walk, but that wasn't the case here.

You did nothing wrong OP!

Dollybantree · 16/12/2024 15:45

Dd is 19 and at university in a city, she walks practically everywhere and I doubt her friends always escort her. If they're out late and are drunk they get Ubers back to the accommodation.

A fully grown woman doesn't need escorting to a train station in the city at 9pm! I'd imagine it's much safer to be in a busy city than somewhere remote having to walk. You're overthinking this.

Ginmonkeyagain · 16/12/2024 15:45

Indeed. Sometimes I am still making my way home from work at that time.

Imnotarestaurant · 16/12/2024 15:44

Hayley1256 · 16/12/2024 14:33

It was 9pm and she wasn't drunk, I'm guessing the centre was well lit and you did offer, I wouldn't feel bad about this. I'm a lot older than you and my group of friends would have insisted we order her a taxi - she wouldn't have had a choice as we'd would have just ordered it. I would never leave a drunk friend to walk alone nor would I if it was a bit later on at night

Edited

I would be mightily pissed off if my friends ‘insisted’ on ordering a taxi for me for a 20 minute walk at 8.30pm.

GretchenWienersHair · 16/12/2024 15:43

SallyWD · 16/12/2024 14:35

Honestly, I've been walking around alone at night since I was about 16. It's a completely alien concept to me that grown adults can't walk alone. It just doesn't make sense to me.
I'm 50, never been attacked by a random stranger. I don't know anyone who has. I do know plenty of people who've been assaulted by their partners though.

You’re very lucky and/or live in a very safe place. I have been attacked on the streets four times. Two of those times I was with a friend and two I was a teenager and it wasn’t even night, just dark winter evenings. There’s nothing hysterical about it; women are often unsafe.

Ginmonkeyagain · 16/12/2024 15:43

Ummm. If I never walked places alone after 9pm I would never go out.

You need to be aware of personal safety but come on! Surely at 9pm on a Saturday evening lots of people would be going to and from the station?

SummerHouse · 16/12/2024 15:42

I walk alone. I find it irritating when others suggest I can't make this decision. In my county one person a week dies in a collision. Do we all insist others don't get in a car because it's not safe. You asked, friend said she was fine. I think this is the right approach.

Manara · 16/12/2024 15:42

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 15:39

Then the volunteer will ring for another volunteer to escort them back and the cycle continues in an endless loop forever PMSL

I guess the loop ends at daybreak 😂

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 15:39

saraclara · 16/12/2024 15:36

And then the volunteer has to walk back alone?

Then the volunteer will ring for another volunteer to escort them back and the cycle continues in an endless loop forever PMSL

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thicklysettled · 16/12/2024 15:36

I wouldn't have walked alone after dark or been happy to have a friend do so. But as she's an adult and declined your offer, what can you do?

That said, tell your friend that one of the riskiest things she did was to be talking on her phone walking home. This makes her less safe, not moreso, as she's distracted. I recently went on a situational awareness/safety workshop (devised by retired security forces personnel, interestingly) and it's incredible how vulnerable you are when you're on the phone. She should have had both hands free, ideally holding her key between her fore- and middle fingers...

saraclara · 16/12/2024 15:36

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 15:32

Interestingly, when I was in Liverpool this summer I saw an ad on a bus stop for a new service where you can ring a number and they will send out a volunteer who will walk with you to your destination. The service begins at 7pm every night.

And then the volunteer has to walk back alone?

Manara · 16/12/2024 15:34

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 15:32

Interestingly, when I was in Liverpool this summer I saw an ad on a bus stop for a new service where you can ring a number and they will send out a volunteer who will walk with you to your destination. The service begins at 7pm every night.

Sounds good, but I'm not sure I'd want a random male to meet me.

I wonder what became of BT's plans for a phone service aimed at protecting lone women walking home:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58854578#:~:text=%22We%20are%20proposing%20to%20build,public%20transport%20or%20any%20journey.%22

saraclara · 16/12/2024 15:34

alexdgr8 · 16/12/2024 14:51

Saraclara
You could have driven your colleague back to the venue ?

No I couldn't. The town centre and one way system didn't work like that, and the venue was in a pedestrian zone.

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 15:32

Interestingly, when I was in Liverpool this summer I saw an ad on a bus stop for a new service where you can ring a number and they will send out a volunteer who will walk with you to your destination. The service begins at 7pm every night.

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Sia8899 · 16/12/2024 15:30

It’s not that late, it doesn’t sound like a dangerous place, you offered and she declined. I can’t see how you were being unreasonable. It’s an adult’s own responsibility to ask for what they need (preferably in advance so everyone knows what’s happening) and to get themselves home safely. Sometimes I’ll ask if someone wants me to walk with them to the bus stop/train station out of politeness, but I’d be surprised if any of my friends actually said yes

JimHalpertsWife · 16/12/2024 15:27

9pm in my city centre is basically the same as 5pm. Pitch black, full of shoppers, a few groups of people walking bar to bar.

You offered, she declined.

I'd happily walk across my city centre at 11pm, it's well lit, full of people of all ages and activities walking around.

Ohnonotmeagain · 16/12/2024 15:26

20 mins walk in a city centre isn’t even a long walk?

personally I feel a lot safer walking in a well lit, busy city centre than I do in a car with a random stranger I’ve never met before, licensed taxi or not.

i never get a taxi on my own if I can possibly avoid it. I would be fuming if friends made me get in one when I was quite happy walking.