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Was I unreasonable to let my friend walk to the train station alone on a night out?

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Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 14:21

I'm aware that the title sounds very bad and I'm thinking I may get a lot of angry comments. Last month, my friends and I went out for drinks in the city centre for my birthday. None of us bar one live in the city, and public transport is not great here with trains being few and far between. Since we went out around 4pm, I wasn't planning on us staying out too late but we didn't make any 'set in stone' plans on what time to go home.
3 of us (myself, Friend 1 and Friend 2) live in the same general direction, with the last 2 trains going home in that direction being at 9pm and then 10.50pm.
After we had our meal we went to a bar round 7.30pm and it didn't feel like we were there very long before Friend A said she should be going soon to get the 9pm train as she didn't want her mum to pick her up from the train station late at night.
The atmosphere was only starting to be good and neither me nor the others wanted to leave so early. Friend 1 hadn't had many drinks and was nowhere near drunk. Friend 2 offered to get the train home with her at 9, Friend 1 declined. We offered to walk her to the station (20 minute walk each way for us which is quite lengthy) and she declined. Friend 1 said she would walk to the station alone while talking on the phone to a relative to feel safe.
We said goodbye and texted her soon after to make sure she got on the train okay, she told us she did but had gotten lost on the way there.
We are going out again this week and she said she will try to get a lift home to save her walking alone.
Were we bad friends to not go with her? It's not like we didn't offer but I still feel a tad guilty despite it being relatively early in the evening. I don't plan on doing this again.

OP posts:
GRex · 17/12/2024 08:20

I'm really concerned by all these supposed grown-ups who can't be an adult. Some parts of the world are genuinely extremely dangerous, in most places incidents are rare and avoided by keeping wits about you and walking along busier roads. Keep wary walking anywhere, be ready to go into a shop/ restaurant/ bar if needed, but if someone genuinely can't manage a 20 min walk unsupervised then let's really hope they never have to be left responsible for a child!

Ginmonkeyagain · 17/12/2024 07:48

@Salome61 you were frightened of getting a bus in, checks notes, Twickenham?

Good grief!

kiraric · 17/12/2024 07:28

I also don't know anyone who has been attacked at night

Women attacked by partners, yes. At work, yes. In clubs, definitely.

Why the focus on walking at night? I really think it's about controlling women

SallyWD · 17/12/2024 07:20

Createausername1970 · 16/12/2024 22:51

Haven't read the whole thread, but if train was at 9 and it was a 20 minute walk to the station, she would have set off about 8.30.

That's really not late.

Where do you draw the line.

Well in a previous thread there were women saying they never leave their house after dark (4pm in winter) and one who said she won't go out after 4pm all year round!

SallyWD · 17/12/2024 07:17

GretchenWienersHair · 17/12/2024 07:03

That could be true, but I know so many women who have had similar experiences. Perhaps I just live in a very unsafe part of the U.K.

I'm very sorry to hear of your experiences. I do think you've been unlucky. I've been walking around alone late at night night since my mid-teens. I've never felt any danger or had any trouble. I'm now 50. I don't know any woman that's been attacked by a stranger. I do know women that have been assaulted by partners or people they've just started dating.
I've lived in five different places in the UK, two of which were quite deprived/rough, but I still didn't know of any woman who was attacked by a stranger. I do know men who've been attacked (statistically men are more likely to be attacked by strangers).

GretchenWienersHair · 17/12/2024 07:03

MartinCrieffsLemon · 16/12/2024 23:54

Or you've been exceptionally unlucky

Plenty of women walk around in the dark and are completely safe

That could be true, but I know so many women who have had similar experiences. Perhaps I just live in a very unsafe part of the U.K.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 16/12/2024 23:54

GretchenWienersHair · 16/12/2024 15:43

You’re very lucky and/or live in a very safe place. I have been attacked on the streets four times. Two of those times I was with a friend and two I was a teenager and it wasn’t even night, just dark winter evenings. There’s nothing hysterical about it; women are often unsafe.

Or you've been exceptionally unlucky

Plenty of women walk around in the dark and are completely safe

Salome61 · 16/12/2024 22:54

When you all meet up again I'd bring this up in the group, and discuss how you would each like to behave/respond if this situation comes up again.

I remember when I was about 22 my car being in the garage and a friend asking me for a drink, I went into Twickenham on the bus. It was a Sunday, and quiet. I hadn't asked her, but had assumed she'd drive me home - at the end of the evening when we got to her car she just said she'd phone me again soon and drove off! I had taken her home a million times when we worked at the same pub together, I couldn't believe she'd left me there. I felt nervous at the bus stop, and decided I wouldn't go out on the bus to meet anyone again.

Createausername1970 · 16/12/2024 22:51

Haven't read the whole thread, but if train was at 9 and it was a 20 minute walk to the station, she would have set off about 8.30.

That's really not late.

Where do you draw the line.

TofuTart · 16/12/2024 22:50

kiraric · 16/12/2024 14:24

9pm in a city centre? Seems absolutely fine to me, I don't think it would have occurred to me to even offer. But I do this all the time.

This, she's a grown up.
I'd think nothing of walking to a train station in the middle of a city centre at 9pm.
I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to leave their night out to walk me there and back!

Hufflemuff · 16/12/2024 22:50

Don't overthink it, her own mum didn't even see the need to come get her from outside at that time.

Manara · 16/12/2024 22:49

Nikitaspearlearring · 16/12/2024 22:44

I was thinking this too, about taxis. I'd rather walk.

This is why I use my local mini can firm. They’ve been there for 50 years and they know I’m local. I feel safer with them than an Uber.

Gwenhwyfar · 16/12/2024 22:47

Wendysfriend · 16/12/2024 14:58

It's a bit different when you're out for a night, drink taken and the girl got lost a few times which proves she actually wasn't ok walking alone. She could have ended up anywhere .

Yes, one wrong turn and she would have ended up in Gaza.

Gwenhwyfar · 16/12/2024 22:46

"I think friend probably felt obliged to say she was ok walking alone because it was your birthday ."

Well, yes, it would have been very selfish to make OP leave her birthday drinks.

Nikitaspearlearring · 16/12/2024 22:44

Bunnycat101 · 16/12/2024 16:46

I’d actually much rather talk at 9pm through a well-lit town than get a taxi on my own. However, a lot depends on the town and where it is and the route to the station though as some are situated in much safer locations than others.

I’ve often got a train back later than 9 alone to a fairly isolated station. I generally feel much happier in a busy city centre where there are people around.

I was thinking this too, about taxis. I'd rather walk.

Gwenhwyfar · 16/12/2024 22:43

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 15:32

Interestingly, when I was in Liverpool this summer I saw an ad on a bus stop for a new service where you can ring a number and they will send out a volunteer who will walk with you to your destination. The service begins at 7pm every night.

A volunteer you don't know. I don't see how that's safer than being alone.

Gwenhwyfar · 16/12/2024 22:38

MissMoneyFairy · 16/12/2024 14:27

I'd get a taxi if it's a 20 min walk to the station

You can't walk for 20 minutes? When it's not very late?
You might have trouble getting the taxi to accept such a small fare.

Endofyear · 16/12/2024 22:35

I've often walked alone in the city centre at night and never felt threatened or been attacked. I think it's easy to get spooked by news reports but it's still relatively rare. Your friend could have got a taxi to the station if she was really worried, you offered to walk with her and she declined so I think that's fine. Obviously if she was staggery drunk, you wouldn't have let her go off by herself!

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 16/12/2024 22:28

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 22:19

Oh I'm a twat, i forgot that I had named her Friend 1 🤣

🤣

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 22:19

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 16/12/2024 22:10

I don't know, that's why I asked. You mentioned friend A in your OP...(quote below)

3 of us (myself, Friend 1 and Friend 2) live in the same general direction, with the last 2 trains going home in that direction being at 9pm and then 10.50pm.
After we had our meal we went to a bar round 7.30pm and it didn't feel like we were there very long before Friend A said she should be going soon to get the 9pm train as she didn't want her mum to pick her up from the train station late at night

Oh I'm a twat, i forgot that I had named her Friend 1 🤣

OP posts:
CyranoDeBergerQuack · 16/12/2024 22:10

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 22:06

Who is Friend A?

I don't know, that's why I asked. You mentioned friend A in your OP...(quote below)

3 of us (myself, Friend 1 and Friend 2) live in the same general direction, with the last 2 trains going home in that direction being at 9pm and then 10.50pm.
After we had our meal we went to a bar round 7.30pm and it didn't feel like we were there very long before Friend A said she should be going soon to get the 9pm train as she didn't want her mum to pick her up from the train station late at night

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 22:06

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 16/12/2024 22:00

Where does friend A come into friends 1,2 and you?

Who is Friend A?

OP posts:
CyranoDeBergerQuack · 16/12/2024 22:00

Anonymous2003 · 16/12/2024 14:21

I'm aware that the title sounds very bad and I'm thinking I may get a lot of angry comments. Last month, my friends and I went out for drinks in the city centre for my birthday. None of us bar one live in the city, and public transport is not great here with trains being few and far between. Since we went out around 4pm, I wasn't planning on us staying out too late but we didn't make any 'set in stone' plans on what time to go home.
3 of us (myself, Friend 1 and Friend 2) live in the same general direction, with the last 2 trains going home in that direction being at 9pm and then 10.50pm.
After we had our meal we went to a bar round 7.30pm and it didn't feel like we were there very long before Friend A said she should be going soon to get the 9pm train as she didn't want her mum to pick her up from the train station late at night.
The atmosphere was only starting to be good and neither me nor the others wanted to leave so early. Friend 1 hadn't had many drinks and was nowhere near drunk. Friend 2 offered to get the train home with her at 9, Friend 1 declined. We offered to walk her to the station (20 minute walk each way for us which is quite lengthy) and she declined. Friend 1 said she would walk to the station alone while talking on the phone to a relative to feel safe.
We said goodbye and texted her soon after to make sure she got on the train okay, she told us she did but had gotten lost on the way there.
We are going out again this week and she said she will try to get a lift home to save her walking alone.
Were we bad friends to not go with her? It's not like we didn't offer but I still feel a tad guilty despite it being relatively early in the evening. I don't plan on doing this again.

Where does friend A come into friends 1,2 and you?

MartinCrieffsLemon · 16/12/2024 21:57

Just to be clear - I, and many colleagues younger than me, walk through town at between 10-11 almost every day. I do not think you did anything wrong.

It wasn't that late at all, she was given the choice, it's fine

I can't believe the amount of people who think they should have essentially forced an adult to take a taxi. Or given up their night early because someone else was going home early.

Spirallingdownwards · 16/12/2024 21:34

Wendysfriend · 16/12/2024 14:29

Sorry I'd never leave anyone to walk alone especially if it's a place with recent violence. I would have ensured she got a taxi . Attacks can happen at any time of the day

Why would OP need to ensure she got a taxi? The friend is a grown ass woman who could organise her own taxi if she wanted one.