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Annabella92 · 16/12/2024 11:58

So I remember a few years back there was an ecoli scare and for a couple of hours the theory was it was from Spanish cucumbers, so we were reminded then we should be washing our fruit and veg. In the wholefoods shop you can buy special rinses to rinse off pesticides from your produce. My Dad always said that these are designed to withstand rain and watering do the idea that a quick rinse will do anything is ridiculous. I've also heard many tales of fruitpickers scratching their bums and noses and handling our unwashed goods.

So obviously I think about this a fair bit!!! What is normal? What do you do? When I'm cooking for my family I tend to be a very thorough fruit and veg washer. But if I'm making a quick sandwich I'll not rinse the Iceberg, I might give the tomato a quick rub on my sleeve and I'll eat blueberries out the punnet while I'm driving.

What do you do? Which do you worry about more, bacteria or pesticides or none?

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FlowersOfSulphur · 16/12/2024 16:13

ZforZebra · 16/12/2024 14:04

We wash everything that is from the fruit or vegetable aisle, using pesticide remover and for hard produce a hard brush. For berries and salad leaves we soak with pesticide remover and white vinegar and then rinse several times. I’m always amazed how much dirt, bugs and grime are left behind. I also notice a weird whitish residue which I think is pesticides, especially when I buy produce while visiting the US. Thoroughly cleaning produce whether you’ll cook it or not is normal where I am from, including for people who grow their own produce. I’m not British. The thing that grosses me out is worms and other soil-borne parasites. I remember when my sister was doing her rotation in obstetrics at a British hospital she was horrified at the number of worms that came out when the mums pushed hard. None of the nurses or doctors appeared shocked and just brushed the worms off the babies heads and carried on because it was normal for them….😐

The worms that your sister observed are likely to have been thread worms, which are usually transmitted by ingesting their microscopic eggs. Typically, these women will have caught the worms from their older children (thread worms are very common in children, including - gasp -non-British children). It might not be a pleasant thought, but they're harmless and many people, maybe even you, have them without realising.

You can also obtain worms from unwashed fruit and veg, but this is unusual in Britain. This route of transmission is more common in countries without modern toilets and sewage treatment facilities.

JudgeJ · 16/12/2024 16:08

Elednia · 16/12/2024 12:21

@SWLondonLurker

Gosh, what a nasty thing to say. What do you get out of it?

Superiority! I've been in parts of the world I would want fruit nuking before eating it but I'm not allowed to say where!

Alaimo · 16/12/2024 16:04

I don't wash druit & veg unless noticably muddy or gritty
I don't rinse dishes after washing them in soapy water
I don't wash newly purchased bedsheets
I don't wash newly purchased underwear before wearing it

And I'm not even British😅

Papyrophile · 16/12/2024 15:56

I wash salad leaves and dry them in a salad spinner, or a clean tea towel. I rinse cut leeks to remove grit and I scrub (or peel) hard root veg to remove mud; generally soak cauliflowers in salted water in case of slugs. Rarely do more and never wash soft fruit.

SWLondonLurker · 16/12/2024 15:54

custardpyjamas · 16/12/2024 15:39

I always rinse dishes.

As do I. It would appear that a surprising (to me) number of people think that’s an unnecessary step. And will, no doubt, shortly be along to say they’re 65, have never rinsed a dish in their life and have never got sick, so it’s clearly pointless.

HalloweenGrinch · 16/12/2024 15:50

In the past, we would get the majority of our Vit B12 via soil consumed with vegetables (and through infrequent meat). Now we have to get it through animal products - but they are also raised in such sterile (indoor) environments that their feed is usually supplemented with B12. It feels like the opposite of progress.

I get organic fruit and veg and grass-fed meat (for family) and only wash f&v if visibly dirty. No allergies, no food intolerances, no illnesses. If by chance I get non-organic fruit like strawberries I DO wash as herbicide/pesticide remnants are much more of a problem than bacteria. The hygiene hypothesis is real, whatever a sniffy Dutch person may think. And fyi - Dutch meat/dairy was historically full of antibiotics (aka growth promoters) which is why they are tall.

Someone asked about leaks - slice the root section off and the tops of any scraggy leaves you don't want to eat, the slice the leek halfway through lengthwise and run under running water, fanning it out to remove the grit.

Nn9011 · 16/12/2024 15:46

BuzzieLittleBee · 16/12/2024 15:43

I imagine the majority of vegetable 'washing' that goes on is nothing more than a perfunctory rinse under the tap, which is unlikely to do a great deal!

Yeah I agree, probably not enough although I am sceptical of the products sold to clean them also - surely they just add more chemicals? I would imagine it's like washing your hands, we all know that you should be singing happy birthday X2 but do we do it perfectly every time?

Fleurdalys · 16/12/2024 15:43

@ Zebra.....
So why would they be wiping them off the babies head?

BuzzieLittleBee · 16/12/2024 15:43

Nn9011 · 16/12/2024 15:39

You can definitely catch illnesses from unwashed food. For example ecoli outbreaks happen from veg. You are also washing off residual germs that may come from human intervention in the production process. These are just some examples.
If you personally never wash your fruit/veg then it's possible you've built up a resistance to certain germs but it definitely bare minimum should be washed in water.

I imagine the majority of vegetable 'washing' that goes on is nothing more than a perfunctory rinse under the tap, which is unlikely to do a great deal!

ZforZebra · 16/12/2024 15:41

Fleurdalys · 16/12/2024 14:54

How the hell do worms get in the birth canal from eating food? 😂😂

Erm, thought it was obvious its wasn’t via the birth canal. Some women pass stool while they’re delivering their babies vaginally. That’s how……

Nn9011 · 16/12/2024 15:39

BuzzieLittleBee · 16/12/2024 12:21

I rarely wash fruit and veg. I'd wash a carrot if I was eating it raw and unpeeled, but I don't think I'd wash anything else. DH 'washes' apples before he eats them, but that just means he rinses them under the tap - I can't see that that is making any difference to anything.

Most veg is peeled, so there's no point in washing it (I rinse things like leeks, after I've sliced them, to get rid of mud and grit), but I have never washed fruit (inc tomatoes).

I have been walking this planet for over 50 years, doing my own food shopping and cooking for 30+ of those, and can probably count on my fingers the number of illnesses of any kind I have had in that time - it's been years since I've had a cold, have never had a D&V bug of any kind, no stomach upsets - nothing. (I had covid once, and had salmonella 25 years ago from a KFC!)

I don't believe that you can 'catch' anything from unwashed fruit and veg.

You can definitely catch illnesses from unwashed food. For example ecoli outbreaks happen from veg. You are also washing off residual germs that may come from human intervention in the production process. These are just some examples.
If you personally never wash your fruit/veg then it's possible you've built up a resistance to certain germs but it definitely bare minimum should be washed in water.

custardpyjamas · 16/12/2024 15:39

SWLondonLurker · 16/12/2024 15:36

washing up bowls of soapy water where nothing is ever rinsed

Yes, that’s another cultural habit that I don’t really understand. But saying that is apparently a declaration of war. 🤣

I always rinse dishes.

custardpyjamas · 16/12/2024 15:37

I wash everything that isn't peeled for pesticide/fungicide residues other people handling them and also for dirt, mostly things don't look dirty. I'm less concerned about veg and fruit out of the garden, we don't use a lot of chemicals, but they usually still get a rinse. Veg from the garden does get attacked by insects etc, so a soak in salt water if necessary to remove them.

HPandthelastwish · 16/12/2024 15:37

I don't scrub anything other than muddy veg but will rinse everything I'm not peeling the skin from. I don't buy organic so no doubt am eating all sorts of pesticides but giving everything a little rinse and leaving it to dry barely takes any time and will get the chlorine off salad leaves etc.

There are all sorts of step between field and plate and I'm sure not all of them are stellar on their hygiene.

DappledThings · 16/12/2024 15:36

Lellojello · 16/12/2024 15:27

This is the kind of behaviour I am referring to. 😂

I could never ever put bed sheets on my bed that weren't washed.

I assume you wash underwear though?

Nope

SWLondonLurker · 16/12/2024 15:36

Lellojello · 16/12/2024 15:23

It is an observation though, why be so defensive?

I live in Europe but am British. I observe all sorts..

When I visit the UK I do see some odd things, including not washing fruit or veg, animals all over the furniture, and washing up bowls of soapy water where nothing is ever rinsed. It amuses me.

But then I am someone who generally lets people wear shoes in my home. 😳

washing up bowls of soapy water where nothing is ever rinsed

Yes, that’s another cultural habit that I don’t really understand. But saying that is apparently a declaration of war. 🤣

SWLondonLurker · 16/12/2024 15:33

Elednia · 16/12/2024 14:53

Oh, goodness. Sorry I missed all this furore. I was interested in why someone would say this nasty thing. Why is it nasty? It should be clear I think but if not, let's break down this nasty sentence.

[As a nation, your attitude] <== stereotyping and generalising wildly
[towards general hygiene is] <== generalising out from washing veg to all forms of hygiene
[…interesting.] <== snide elision - we are are all dirty bastards, unlike her, and she is disgusted by us, but importantly she wants us to know

So I was really wondering what she gets out of telling everyone this in this snide, covertly hostile way. I've noticed this on threads on MN. If you think [x,y] people are so awful, why do you also want them to know this. It's interesting to me. So I've been asking from time to time, when I see these very tamped down nasty comments, what makes people want to say them. It's not just this person, it's all over MN, and sometimes they are very BIG horrible comments like people saying they shouldn't have had kids or diagnosing them with personality disorders, but often they are more tamped down, just expressions of suppressed, bitter hostility. And I wonder, what is going on with people when they act like this. I'm really interested. I actually do want to know!

There wasn’t any furore. People just didn’t agree with you that it was a nasty comment. Likening it to saying people shouldn’t have children or diagnosing them with personality disorders is rather bizarre.

There was nothing snide or covert about my comment. If anything, as has been stated and acknowledged, it was extremely blunt. ‘Suppressed bitter hostility’, you say? 🤣

Based on this comment, you (you, personally, not the nation, for the sake of clarity) appear to be given to dramatic overstatement.

ObtuseMoose · 16/12/2024 15:31

SWLondonLurker · 16/12/2024 12:06

The idea that anyone would eat produce they haven’t washed is utterly bizarre to me. But, I’m not British. As a nation, your attitude towards general hygiene is…interesting.

It didn't take long did it?

MrsBeesBakedBeans · 16/12/2024 15:30

Lellojello · 16/12/2024 15:27

This is the kind of behaviour I am referring to. 😂

I could never ever put bed sheets on my bed that weren't washed.

I assume you wash underwear though?

No! My thought is that if they come in the packet, it's unlikely that somebody has had their grubby mitts all over them. If I was buying individual knickers that weren't in a plastic packet, perhaps but then again maybe not.

Typing it out makes me think I perhaps should.

luckylavender · 16/12/2024 15:29

I eat a lot of fruit and veg. Don't wash anything.

luckylavender · 16/12/2024 15:27

SWLondonLurker · 16/12/2024 12:06

The idea that anyone would eat produce they haven’t washed is utterly bizarre to me. But, I’m not British. As a nation, your attitude towards general hygiene is…interesting.

🙄

Lellojello · 16/12/2024 15:27

MrsBeesBakedBeans · 16/12/2024 15:24

Ditto the clothes and bedsheets.

This is the kind of behaviour I am referring to. 😂

I could never ever put bed sheets on my bed that weren't washed.

I assume you wash underwear though?

mouse70 · 16/12/2024 15:26

I lived in far east for a time in 70s. (Service family) We were advised to wash all salad/veg in milton solution then rinse with cold boiled water before eating. Reason given was that produce was thought to be grown with human faeces as fertilizer never knew if this was true.

MrsBeesBakedBeans · 16/12/2024 15:24

DappledThings · 16/12/2024 12:25

Never washed any fruit or veg. Horrifies my mum. I remain unmoved by her horror (and that of PPs).

Nor do I wash new clothes or bedding before first use.

Ditto the clothes and bedsheets.

Lellojello · 16/12/2024 15:23

SpecialKate · 16/12/2024 14:30

Did you just ignore the other part of their post?

"As a nation, your attitude towards general hygiene is…interesting."

It is an observation though, why be so defensive?

I live in Europe but am British. I observe all sorts..

When I visit the UK I do see some odd things, including not washing fruit or veg, animals all over the furniture, and washing up bowls of soapy water where nothing is ever rinsed. It amuses me.

But then I am someone who generally lets people wear shoes in my home. 😳

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