What was your position on Amber Heard & Johnny Depp

I'm surprised at how Paul Bettany seems to be none the worse. I always thought he seemed okay until I read those texts. Horrible bastard. Not to mention JD, of course. Misogynistic, toxic men.

Completely agree with this.

She came across appallingly and was not believable.

Johnny 'wifebeater' Depp? Who we can all say this about because he took the S*n to court for defamation and they proved he was indeed a wifebeater?

Not a fan.

I remember when the whole thing started.
Amber published an op/ed in the Washington Post, listing a number of accusations against an anonymous man — but it was obvious she was talking about Depp.
It was calculated, vicious and written to elicit great sympathy for herself while sabotaging Johnny Depp.
Right off, I knew she had an agenda and that agenda was not to defend herself, but to destroy someone else.

Also agree it was on both sides and with drugs and alcohol involved I doubt they can even reliably say themselves what happened for all of it.

I'm surprised so many people have this view on this thread though, everything I see is typically pro Johnny normally.

I think they are two pathetic people with substance abuse problems and significant mental health issues. It doesn't sound like either one of them has ever managed to have a normal adult romantic relationship.

Without money and fame one or both of them would have been in jail by now.

I don't understand his appeal; I find him fairly repulsive. It would surprise no-one if one of them died by overdose or suicide. A sad mess all the way around.

But so is he.

Agreed.

My opinion hasn’t changed about their situation. The relationship was destructive and toxic but Depp appeared to be very abusive. I always felt that Amber Heard had a strong case against Depp thanks to video evidence. Depp was very fortunate to win the appeal (imo he didn’t deserve to win).

The social media vendetta against her was terrible and I’m sure it has deterred other high profile people in relationships with popular abusive partners from speaking out.

From what I can tell they both behaved pretty despicably, but there was a huge power imbalance where it came to the media and the court case. The fact that JD chose to have the case heard in a state where the trial could be televised speaks volumes, in my opinion. And the texts he was exchanging with Paul Bettany about AH were just vile. The whole thing made me think less of him.

She could have walked away with her $7million and bought as much therapy as she needed and had a jolly nice life. But she chose to go after him in the newspapers and wouldn’t leave him alone. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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I think they were probably awful to each other and the relationship was toxic. But there was a huge power imbalance- he’s Jonny Depp and for some reason there’s a lot of goodwill towards him and always has been despite evidence of being a horrible human being long before he met AH. I feel sorry for her, I think she was telling the truth about what he did to her but she was no match for him and his PR team. I hope they’re getting paid well because they earn every penny. The messages between him and Paul Bettany about “raping her corpse and setting fire to it” being heavily glossed over is mind boggling to me.

Luckily she seems to have gone on to live a happy life away from him and create a family of her own. It’s a cliche but the best revenge is living well. In my experience that’s even truer when you’ve got a toxic ex.

I don't think AH is likeable and so because she wasn't a "perfect victim", and because JD is very popular, the press and public ripped her apart.

I think it's likely that there were elements of abuse on both sides. I certainly don't think JD is innocent. It appears to have been a completely toxic relationship with lots of alcohol and drug use involved.

The way his previous girlfriends queued up to defend him without any knowledge of his relationship with AH was despicable. It smacks of "believe victims, unless the alleged perpetrator is my powerful friend" as per Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher. Whether he was a perfect gentleman 30 years ago to a different woman has no bearing on his treatment of someone else.

The whole thing was a horrible spectacle drenched in misogyny.

I don't believe a word she said and the overuse of "objection, hearsay" was the most memorable part of the whole charade.

I believe her.
Johnny Depp’s behaviour is very like an abusive fuckwit I know who manages to worm and charm his way into people’s good books to the detriment of his string of abused exes.

She's having a second child.

Op why is she in the news

I can't remember what podcast it was but there was a massive spike in AI bots posting about this and making it that much harder for a fair trial. Whatever I think, it was hard for the truth to be clear

I think what happened to Amber Heard in that court was horrific and I believe her

Well key texts from dueters could not be read out in the plane.

So that puts a different slant on it all.

Johnny Depp clearly has major addiction issues and I believe a huge part of the problem was her struggling with a major addict. She said she had to help his daughter leave the island because she was so distressed at her dad etc.

However obviously she has her issues also and it didn't work.