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Mamana127 · 15/12/2024 11:51

I have two step daughters one if now 27 and the other one 25 I have known them for 13 years and each Christmas ever since I met them i have bought them presents, nice girly things which they love.
They are now working with really good jobs one earning 150k a year and another 70k. They have been working for over 3 years now. But I have never received even a slicked Carrot from them. They buy their dad presents and nothing for me and my kids. During their birthdays my kids make them crafts and I buy them presents but I’ve never received any for my birthday either or the kids birthday either.
This year while wrapping presents my husband asked me where their presents were? I said I’m not buying them any as they have never got me anything not even a Christmas card. He got really mad and said I’m older I should behave better and two wrongs don’t make a right.
I asked him if he has ever asked them why they don’t buy me anything he said they are old enough to make their minds. Ok and I’m not old enough to make my mind?
when we go on holiday I buy them stuff and they sometimes accept or reject that they don’t like, it I spoke to my MIL about this and she said to me they to stop trying to buy them that they don’t like you.
i have never done anything to these beautiful girls, I met their dad way after he had split frozen their mum and had been in other relationship before me.
I haven’t been trying to buy their love I’ve just been trying to be nice to them. So this year I decided to heed my MIL’s advice, and it blew up into a big argument between me and DH. Mind you DH gets them gifts too so I suggested he writes that it’s from both of us and refused. I’m I right or I’m I being petty.
I mean having to take that decision was hard for my heart but I felt I needed to do it.

OP posts:
Donsyb · 17/12/2024 09:58

Mamana127 · 16/12/2024 23:57

I have never met the ex face to face so I go by what my DH has told me:- that they fizzled out, were constantly fighting and slept in separate bedrooms for years. His version. My MIL also said negative things about her but she said she changed used to be nice. (Probably know why) 😂
I’ve really stayed away from their issues as it had nothing to do with me, I only knew what MIL told me but I know when I had the baby they were all distraught even asked him that she will allow him back together if he could cut links with me and the baby forever. He refused. These all came from MIL 😂 we sound so dysfunctional don’t we 😂.
Yes she has got a boyfriend who live separately.
their relationship is up and down, when he can’t meet her demands she blocks him. Gets the kids to tell him to do it and he runs there even if it means missing work.
She blocked him when we got engaged, then unblocked him when she needed him to fix things. She blocked him again when we got married for a long time but they are talking again I believe. They have kids so I guess it’s natural that they talk.
I guess they hate me because I meant permanent breakup but I honestly just met a single guy and fell in love with him. My DH is a great guy but he just cannot navigate or blend the two families together, he is the happiest when his girls are talking to me nicely and visiting which I always make absolute effort. I have done everything in my power to try and have a relationship with them but they are just not interested. He has to have two holidays one with them and one with us.
my MIL told me that the relationships he had after leaving could not handle the pressure his daughters and ex put on him. They left. I left too at some point. He would say ok I’ve changed then back to square one. I don’t want him to neglect his girls that would break my heart. But I also don’t want to feel how I’m feeling anymore.
i think he find me easy to let down and confront that the others and that tells me a lot.

They’re adults - they don’t need to have holidays with their father any more. I didn’t know any adults that have holidays with their parents unless the whole family is there.

Mamana127 · 17/12/2024 09:46

Mamana127 · 17/12/2024 09:32

Thank you all about your honest opinions, the brunt of it is my DH is always scared of his daughters I have never understood why. Yes when it comes to them he is weak. He even sort counselling when I tried to leave once. To figure out why he can’t just face them and tell them the truth. It didn’t work.
I’ve tried to help, I’ve tried to talk to them to reassure them that nothing will ever change with me being present in their life, I’ve apologised for the changes they had to endure as teens due to their parents splitting up.
I said the same thing to them when our daughter was born. I’ve cooked, entertained smiled and waved as much as I possible could over the years, I’ve embarrassed myself and put up with things I shouldn’t have put up with, I don’t know why I did. I’m working on myself and how to say no and how to be assertive and firm.
I’m finding my anger as someone said. I hate arguments or upsetting people. But this has led to me being taken advantage of. I know it’s insane but that’s been my reality.
For the sake of my daughters and myself I’m doing something about it. It’s a slow process yes but I will get there. A simple post about presents had evoked memories in my head that are quite painful and disturbing and to think I put up with, some of it w oils not allow now so it’s an achievement to me that I can put my foot down even if it’s a tiny bit.
I work full time and earn a good wage not as high as my DH or DSC but I’m happy to contribute my fair share of our lives because apparently the girls tell him not to waste their inheritance so I have to pay for things. I’ve accepted this because I lived alone for a while with my kids and paid for things so it doesn’t make a difference to me. I’ve never understood the inheritance thing but I respect their views.

Now though I will seek legal advice and change the things which doesn’t favour me or my kids, we matter too.
I don’t want to grow into a resentful woman to two girls who are a product of their parents divorcing or not being raised right.
They probably don’t know any different. Demand and expectation has probably been part of their upbringing and so they do not see anything wrong with it. But I’ve chosen to be left out of that demand and expectation now. I never caused their pain. I must not suffer for something that happened when I was not around. My DH’s guilt is not mine to bear. He said that ex asked him to leave for several years and eventually he left.
he dated before me so it’s not like I was the first. But I know for sure that no matter what woman who comes they will get the same treatment.

I will look into speaking to a solicitor then with the advice she gives me I will speak to my DH to see if we can make changes if not then it’s time I lived my life the way I want to. My late MIL used to tell me “fight for it” it will be all worth it. But then again she was just looking out for her son. She tried her best to be honest. She told me long time ago to tell the girls to go to hell. Of F off but I just kept trying hoping that they would see my intentions.
I will not be replying to any messages as I’m traveling but I thank you all liberated women. Some of the comments were so funny and I wished I was that blunt and that brave. I enjoy Mumsnet and the support it give us. I’ve learnt a lot from this simple post about gifting.

How does one edit these posts because my typos are as exhausting as my husband 😂😂😂

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missod · 17/12/2024 09:45

You sound such a kind, lovable person OP. What a pity it's been used against you. Flowers

TheCatterall · 17/12/2024 09:43

@Mamana127 you mention coming from a different culture - could the girls attitude come down to culture/racism at its base? Like they feel superior to you?

I would be taking DH to counselling as a couple. The girls are adults now and he needs to work on having a stronger relationship with you.

Mamana127 · 17/12/2024 09:32

Thank you all about your honest opinions, the brunt of it is my DH is always scared of his daughters I have never understood why. Yes when it comes to them he is weak. He even sort counselling when I tried to leave once. To figure out why he can’t just face them and tell them the truth. It didn’t work.
I’ve tried to help, I’ve tried to talk to them to reassure them that nothing will ever change with me being present in their life, I’ve apologised for the changes they had to endure as teens due to their parents splitting up.
I said the same thing to them when our daughter was born. I’ve cooked, entertained smiled and waved as much as I possible could over the years, I’ve embarrassed myself and put up with things I shouldn’t have put up with, I don’t know why I did. I’m working on myself and how to say no and how to be assertive and firm.
I’m finding my anger as someone said. I hate arguments or upsetting people. But this has led to me being taken advantage of. I know it’s insane but that’s been my reality.
For the sake of my daughters and myself I’m doing something about it. It’s a slow process yes but I will get there. A simple post about presents had evoked memories in my head that are quite painful and disturbing and to think I put up with, some of it w oils not allow now so it’s an achievement to me that I can put my foot down even if it’s a tiny bit.
I work full time and earn a good wage not as high as my DH or DSC but I’m happy to contribute my fair share of our lives because apparently the girls tell him not to waste their inheritance so I have to pay for things. I’ve accepted this because I lived alone for a while with my kids and paid for things so it doesn’t make a difference to me. I’ve never understood the inheritance thing but I respect their views.

Now though I will seek legal advice and change the things which doesn’t favour me or my kids, we matter too.
I don’t want to grow into a resentful woman to two girls who are a product of their parents divorcing or not being raised right.
They probably don’t know any different. Demand and expectation has probably been part of their upbringing and so they do not see anything wrong with it. But I’ve chosen to be left out of that demand and expectation now. I never caused their pain. I must not suffer for something that happened when I was not around. My DH’s guilt is not mine to bear. He said that ex asked him to leave for several years and eventually he left.
he dated before me so it’s not like I was the first. But I know for sure that no matter what woman who comes they will get the same treatment.

I will look into speaking to a solicitor then with the advice she gives me I will speak to my DH to see if we can make changes if not then it’s time I lived my life the way I want to. My late MIL used to tell me “fight for it” it will be all worth it. But then again she was just looking out for her son. She tried her best to be honest. She told me long time ago to tell the girls to go to hell. Of F off but I just kept trying hoping that they would see my intentions.
I will not be replying to any messages as I’m traveling but I thank you all liberated women. Some of the comments were so funny and I wished I was that blunt and that brave. I enjoy Mumsnet and the support it give us. I’ve learnt a lot from this simple post about gifting.

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Sayoonara · 17/12/2024 09:13

OP forget about the gifts, don't give it any more headspace. Your DH and step-daughters have drained enough of your life, time to focus on you and your DC.

Work out your current and future financial situation and stop accepting the inheritance plan as a given. Think about whether you want to even stay with your DH.

Don't waste time on pettiness that doesn't affect you and your DC's future, such as your step-daughers' gifts or their meal. I wouldn't be cooking the meal on the 27th - time to drop the rope on that as well. No reason not to get a takeaway or your DH to cook.

Bless your MIL for being a compassionate person and helping you through this.

Junmex · 17/12/2024 09:11

My view is that your husband should take the emotional responsibility of buying them something, you are allowed to refuse to do it yourself but he is the dad, he should do it then.

Blades2 · 17/12/2024 08:59

Your step daughters sound like a pair of ugly sisters from Cinderella, and your dh sounds like a walking prick.

Pensionswew · 17/12/2024 08:36

Every post about your husband is worse.
You need to find your anger.
How dare he allow his child to spoil the holiday for the rest of his family.

He's a shit father and husband.
Nothing worse that a weak spineless man afraid of his children from his first relationship.

bigkidatheart · 17/12/2024 08:23

Stick your name on his present to them, from you both

Mamana127 · 17/12/2024 08:14

Mamana127 · 17/12/2024 08:13

No way was I invited I’m never invited to their holidays it’s their catching up with their dad time. And somehow I understand and don’t mind because they live far and rarely see each other so it’s important they see their dad. I once asked why we can’t just go on holiday together it would be cheaper and he said they prefer him alone to get his total attention. The youngest daughter joined us once on holiday and the moment she arrived everything changed. My DH was anxious as hell, We had to do everything she wanted to do, eat where she wanted to eat etc regardless of what young kids prefers or were capable of, and the whole time she only spoke to her dad, walked hand in hand ahead of us, the kids tried to engage her but she just smiled at them. in the end I just said no me and the kids will stay in the villa you go off and enjoy yourselves. I’ve refused for her to join any of our holidays since. I’d rather go to Skegness and have happy times with my girls my kids have kind of now known especially my eldest that they don’t like us she has asked me before. But because we don’t see them often it’s not such a problem to me.

It was one week after our wedding.

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Mamana127 · 17/12/2024 08:13

No way was I invited I’m never invited to their holidays it’s their catching up with their dad time. And somehow I understand and don’t mind because they live far and rarely see each other so it’s important they see their dad. I once asked why we can’t just go on holiday together it would be cheaper and he said they prefer him alone to get his total attention. The youngest daughter joined us once on holiday and the moment she arrived everything changed. My DH was anxious as hell, We had to do everything she wanted to do, eat where she wanted to eat etc regardless of what young kids prefers or were capable of, and the whole time she only spoke to her dad, walked hand in hand ahead of us, the kids tried to engage her but she just smiled at them. in the end I just said no me and the kids will stay in the villa you go off and enjoy yourselves. I’ve refused for her to join any of our holidays since. I’d rather go to Skegness and have happy times with my girls my kids have kind of now known especially my eldest that they don’t like us she has asked me before. But because we don’t see them often it’s not such a problem to me.

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ACatNamedRobin · 17/12/2024 07:58

@Mamana127
OP
Make sure that you talk to a solicitor but very importantly keep your cards very close to your chest. Do not breathe a word of it to your husband, or anyone else really.

Mamana127 · 17/12/2024 07:56

Fraaances · 17/12/2024 06:26

I’m not understanding how you and your DH have allowed you to become this invisible, subservient, secondhand citizen in your own family. You need to take up space, make some noise and demand your rights - for you and your child.

I don’t understand how I’ve allowed it either but I just did. I’m getting help in this area. I come from a culture where women are totally painfully submissive. I saw this with my mother and see it with my sisters. I don’t like it as it’s demeaning and disrespectful and gut wrenching. But it’s built into you from the moment you are born a baby girl.
I didn’t wear trousers until I came to England years ago. I’m lucky I got education because my mother insisted, some don’t, she worked hard and put her foot down and sent us out of the culture to explore the world and be independent women.
i know I will get there. Quite soon actually. It’s just hard when fate throws people in your way that enjoys this oppressive system rather than help dismantle it.
I know my DSC would never allow anyone to treat them the way I’ve been treated because they have a voice. They grew up with views and expectations. As a grown woman in my mid forties I’m just growing mine now it’s ok I think my MIL saw this and she helped me to recognise that I don’t have to do it. I’m eternally grateful to her.

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missod · 17/12/2024 07:53

How soon after the wedding did they go on 'Honeymoon'? Were you invited?

Mamana127 · 17/12/2024 07:44

Allfur · 17/12/2024 06:52

Rightly or wrongly, the birthday thing sounds like it didn't help things

Probably didn’t, but it probably stems from many years of me being told to do things how other people want them and not how I want them. The previous me would have rolled over and let DH pay the extra money required for the day change but I stood my ground for once and that was the beginning of changes I was making my voice to be heard.
guess what? The day after our wedding they asked for a holiday for her birthday and they went away for a week, because xxx was upset. It explained why every time I was asking to book our honey moon I was being told we should wait a few months first before going anywhere to get over the wedding. So he technically took his two daughter to his honeymoon 😂again my MIL was totally distraught I was distraught but I thought about her feelings and forgot about it. Yes I’ve got a DH problem big time the girls needed guiding when he decided to date but it seems he over promised the ex and the girls things he could not stand by or keep. Impossible when you involve a third party.
He even tried to have councelling to figure out why he can’t find a balance that didn’t work. He still expects me to smile and wave and look pretty while neglecting my feelings and needs. I thought that marriage would change things, it some things not much. The girls continue to dominate and I have to say yes. Or we have problems. Well I will push for change as much as I can if not then I’ll jump out.

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Mamana127 · 17/12/2024 07:28

ForBetterForWorseOrNot · 17/12/2024 00:20

Does he buy your children seperate gifts from you? If not point that out to him. I would also say it's not just how they treat you but your children too and that you feel it's better not to keep trying.

yes he does, he buys them small gifts just from him. I think this has opened my eyes a lot and moving forward everyone should just receive one gift from us. That should simplify things to ALL concerned because we are ending up spending a fortune on presents to family unnecessarily. Perhaps this is what they have always done and I just joined the mix but it needs to change, even my kids need just one present from us really. I’ll discuss this with him today so that I’m making change to everyone not just his girls. For example him and my SIL have bought their dad a present together but he emailled me with what he wants for Christmas. Knowing that his two kids have already got him something. Same for my SIL I always get her and her kids presents (money) and he never gets them anything so perhaps and doesn’t ask to be included.

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Lellojello · 17/12/2024 07:18

Honestly OP, your DH really isn't a nice man. He is spineless at best.

I have extensive experience in blended families, and despite some of it being better than others, I have not encountered someone like your husband.

He is so weak it is painful to read. I couldn't stand another day with him but that's me

I am pleased to read you standing your ground though, please stay rooted in this decision. At the same time seek legal advice because you are wedded to a gutless twat that I wouldn't trust an inch when it comes to your stake in your assets. I agree with pp that in many ways you would be better off divorcing but I understand that is easy for us to type out - when it is your life and only you really know how bad it is.

I am wondering what happens when this gruesome pair of sisters marry? Will you even be invited... when they have children etc. I just think after so many years their coldness towards you is entrenched and they won't be softening no matter what. Spiteful pair!

I would move forward very single mindedly now. Thinking only of what is best for you and your 3 children.

I'll say it again, your H isn't a good husband, he really doesn't care how you or your children are treated as long as he doesn't have to grow a pair and confront the ugly sisters and their bitter mother.

Allfur · 17/12/2024 06:52

Rightly or wrongly, the birthday thing sounds like it didn't help things

SouthernBelle2 · 17/12/2024 06:39

I think your problem lies less with your SDs and more with DH. If this is is attitude on other areas of life, then frankly he sounds vile, tone deaf and unsupportive. Sorry OP, but he needs to see your point of view and support your decision on this.

Fraaances · 17/12/2024 06:26

I’m not understanding how you and your DH have allowed you to become this invisible, subservient, secondhand citizen in your own family. You need to take up space, make some noise and demand your rights - for you and your child.

TammyJones · 17/12/2024 05:49

Figsandwalnuts · 15/12/2024 11:53

They are embarrassingly rude, and your DH is horrible.

True I'm afraid.
My step sons have always got me gifts , even when I've said there's no need
That's so sad for you.

Biscuitjockey · 17/12/2024 01:31

Why can’t your husband put your name on the presents he got them? Yous are married so i assume yous share an income. So it’s from both of you however you look at it. He’s being unreasonable, he could avoid possible avoid drama by simply adding your name to a card . I don’t like him sorry.

Geppili · 17/12/2024 00:59

Awful husband. Stick to your guns.

Manara · 17/12/2024 00:23

You say DH is nice to you but he doesn’t sound very nice. Refusing to put your name on gifts he buys for his daughters and father is not nice. Leaving his entire share of the house to his daughters even though you are contributing to it and have a child together is not nice. Letting his daughters treat you badly or indifferently for years is not nice.