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Ainu to not want to buy step kids Christmas present

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Mamana127 · 15/12/2024 11:51

I have two step daughters one if now 27 and the other one 25 I have known them for 13 years and each Christmas ever since I met them i have bought them presents, nice girly things which they love.
They are now working with really good jobs one earning 150k a year and another 70k. They have been working for over 3 years now. But I have never received even a slicked Carrot from them. They buy their dad presents and nothing for me and my kids. During their birthdays my kids make them crafts and I buy them presents but I’ve never received any for my birthday either or the kids birthday either.
This year while wrapping presents my husband asked me where their presents were? I said I’m not buying them any as they have never got me anything not even a Christmas card. He got really mad and said I’m older I should behave better and two wrongs don’t make a right.
I asked him if he has ever asked them why they don’t buy me anything he said they are old enough to make their minds. Ok and I’m not old enough to make my mind?
when we go on holiday I buy them stuff and they sometimes accept or reject that they don’t like, it I spoke to my MIL about this and she said to me they to stop trying to buy them that they don’t like you.
i have never done anything to these beautiful girls, I met their dad way after he had split frozen their mum and had been in other relationship before me.
I haven’t been trying to buy their love I’ve just been trying to be nice to them. So this year I decided to heed my MIL’s advice, and it blew up into a big argument between me and DH. Mind you DH gets them gifts too so I suggested he writes that it’s from both of us and refused. I’m I right or I’m I being petty.
I mean having to take that decision was hard for my heart but I felt I needed to do it.

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Pensionswew · 18/12/2024 18:48

You have been abused by him and his children for years but because of the boiled frog method, it has slowly increased.

He's a weak weasel and you need to protect yourself from him.

You sound so nice but you definitely need to consider the modelling thats going on that your children will be absorbing.

You don't want this for their future.
You all deserve so much better than this weakling and his awful children.

MrsCarson · 18/12/2024 18:47

After speaking to a solicitor, do not discuss with him what the solicitor says. You need to make up your own mind what you want to do for yourself and your children.
If you tell him everything you give him chance to give you the run around and make sure if you separate that you come off worse.
Keep things like the solicitor visit and your decision to yourself.
Do not show him this thread. That gives him ammunition against you.
He sounds awful.

LivelyMintViper · 18/12/2024 18:11

Print this thread off and show it to your husband then post it to your sdc
In for a penny ....

Mamasperspective · 18/12/2024 17:35

They're adults now - not your monkey, not your circus

lolapops1 · 18/12/2024 17:33

Hold on your husband does not put your name on the gifts? Well that is just odd.

Welshmonster · 18/12/2024 17:19

You need to ensure that he is spending his fair share on bills and not just saving it for inheritance. The DSC obviously went through tough times with parents splitting but they are now adults and should book their own therapy.

go through your outgoings and make it fairer.

you also need to consider what happens if either of you need care when you are older as they will want to use the house money to pay for it so there may not be any inheritance. Plus it needs to be split equally between his 3 children I can’t believe they don’t buy presents for their little half siblings what AH

Tiggywiggypiggy · 18/12/2024 17:12

I have had to do the same to both my stepdaughter and her children.
In 30 years I have never received a present, card or thank-you.
My Husband has never received a birthday card, present or fathers day card.
The children have been old enough to contact us to say thankyou for years and now I am done with the rudeness, bad manners and lack of appreciation.

I am lucky that myself and my Husband are a united front in this decision but it makes us both very sad.

lessglittermoremud · 18/12/2024 17:05

I feel so sad for you, I have a step Mum and she is included in everything, mine and my siblings children all call her Grandma etc
Our own Mother is still around so we don’t see our step mum as a surrogate, we see her as part of our immediate family and treat her as such. She is the person our Dad has chosen to spend his later years with and deserves respect and consideration.
Im appalled you never even had a bunch of flowers or a hand to do the dishes after slaving away making everything lovely for Christmas Day.
I think this says everything about them them as people, even if they ‘don’t like you’, manners and being gracious cost nothing.
Your DH should be totally embarrassed that he has helped raised them to behave like it.
Enjoy your Xmas away and surround yourself with people who love and care for you.

SandieWooz · 18/12/2024 16:56

It must’ve been very hurtful to find out off your DH that his daughters don’t like you. He sounds a heartless prick and they sound utterly selfish and ungrateful. Just concentrate on your own children in future. I’d have a serious think about him too.

MrsB74 · 18/12/2024 16:46

It sounds to me like he’s been tiptoeing around his daughters for years, I presume due to guilt over the divorce from their mother. He’s basically enabled them to turn into nasty entitled bitches.
I am also a step mother and their treatment of you and your children (their siblings!) is bloody dreadful. I would have checked out years ago in your situation. I’m really shocked your DH didn’t nip this in the bud years ago. He needs to hear some home truths. Even if you had been the other woman, which I know you weren’t, they should have accepted the situation by now. My step mother was the OW and we get on great! You have to accept reality at some point.

Emmz1510 · 18/12/2024 16:10

Yanbu- they and their father sound horrid

wisebear · 18/12/2024 15:58

Nah !! The fact they have NEVER said a thank you or even now they are earning a wage still can’t get you a little something?? And your DH…. Just wow.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 18/12/2024 15:36

Mamana127 · 15/12/2024 16:33

😂 therapist can’t tell you what to do but they can guide you and open your eyes to see the light and then you make that decision yourself. One step at a time I will get there. I wish it was that easy.

Take the money you would have spent on those selfish, nasty witches and spend it on your children. They deserve it after putting up with them for this long. Also, buy yourself something nice that you wouldn't buy yourself usually, because YOU also deserve it! Think of it as a gift from "Santa Mamana127".

Your NVDH sounds like a twat waffle, and the more you write about him and his balls of cotton when it comes to his daughters, the more I dislike him.

Continue to stand up for what you know is right, so your children can see that and not become people pleasers that get walked on.

Have a wonderful holiday! 🌲

saffronspices · 17/12/2024 18:01

Just found out how to edit a post 😁😁

There's 3 dots on the top right hand side of your post, click on them and select 'edit post' at the bottom of the list 👍

DiduAye · 17/12/2024 18:00

Been there Yanbu It's funny that people don't like being treated the way you are treated by them As for your useless husband Ltb

saffronspices · 17/12/2024 17:58

Mamana127 · 16/12/2024 23:57

I have never met the ex face to face so I go by what my DH has told me:- that they fizzled out, were constantly fighting and slept in separate bedrooms for years. His version. My MIL also said negative things about her but she said she changed used to be nice. (Probably know why) 😂
I’ve really stayed away from their issues as it had nothing to do with me, I only knew what MIL told me but I know when I had the baby they were all distraught even asked him that she will allow him back together if he could cut links with me and the baby forever. He refused. These all came from MIL 😂 we sound so dysfunctional don’t we 😂.
Yes she has got a boyfriend who live separately.
their relationship is up and down, when he can’t meet her demands she blocks him. Gets the kids to tell him to do it and he runs there even if it means missing work.
She blocked him when we got engaged, then unblocked him when she needed him to fix things. She blocked him again when we got married for a long time but they are talking again I believe. They have kids so I guess it’s natural that they talk.
I guess they hate me because I meant permanent breakup but I honestly just met a single guy and fell in love with him. My DH is a great guy but he just cannot navigate or blend the two families together, he is the happiest when his girls are talking to me nicely and visiting which I always make absolute effort. I have done everything in my power to try and have a relationship with them but they are just not interested. He has to have two holidays one with them and one with us.
my MIL told me that the relationships he had after leaving could not handle the pressure his daughters and ex put on him. They left. I left too at some point. He would say ok I’ve changed then back to square one. I don’t want him to neglect his girls that would break my heart. But I also don’t want to feel how I’m feeling anymore.
i think he find me easy to let down and confront that the others and that tells me a lot.

My partner has had similar issues with his DD but not to the extent of your DH. He left when his DD was 17, loveless marriage & got treated like a dog. I was in a similar position but my DD was only 4 & we were in a domestic abuse situation. We both took a leap of faith in each other and have been so happy together bringing my DD up. All 3 of us have suffered in different ways from both my ex and my partner's grown up DD, now in her 30s. Finally my partner has cut her loose, bye love, after 16 years - she's been playing games all that time but not any more. We're both still married to our respective exes - mine called a halt to the divorce after the marital home was sold, he refused to sort the financial side out so now he's in his 60s the clock is ticking - he has a really good pension but he won't sort the PSO out - I don't have the money to force the issue so no idea what happens to it.

I can understand how your DH struggles to manage his horrid daughters - it sounds like it's either their way or get lost - he's being manipulated. He ought to call their bluff & dump the pair of them, he's remarried with another DD and 2 stepchildren who would benefit from his full attention and so would you. Don't you deserve some peace, all of you?

PyongyangKipperbang · 17/12/2024 17:16

pestowithwalnuts · 17/12/2024 14:09

When me and DH were first together . He had 1dd and I had 2.
I spent many hours thinking of things that she would like ..sourcing them .sending for them etc.
Same at birthdays.
But when it was HDs birthday or father's day he would get nothing. Not even a card. He would say that was because we lived over 100 miles apart ...or she doesn't think...or some other crap reasons
It came to a head when we met up with her one weekend in a city near her
.it was his actual birth DAY...the perfect situation to give him a card.....and...nothing..
And I said that's it.. done.. And I bloody well am
Now DH has terminal cancer.. and she won't come and visit him. My own dds are furious with her They say she'll leave it too late..and they'll have no sympathy for her..

She will visit quick enough if she thinks there is any inheritance in the offing though. I am sorry for your situation and hope that your dd's at least are some comfort to you both xx

Pumpkincozynights · 17/12/2024 15:35

Just came on to say you are correct op.
Your husbands children sound very rude and entitled.

pestowithwalnuts · 17/12/2024 14:09

When me and DH were first together . He had 1dd and I had 2.
I spent many hours thinking of things that she would like ..sourcing them .sending for them etc.
Same at birthdays.
But when it was HDs birthday or father's day he would get nothing. Not even a card. He would say that was because we lived over 100 miles apart ...or she doesn't think...or some other crap reasons
It came to a head when we met up with her one weekend in a city near her
.it was his actual birth DAY...the perfect situation to give him a card.....and...nothing..
And I said that's it.. done.. And I bloody well am
Now DH has terminal cancer.. and she won't come and visit him. My own dds are furious with her They say she'll leave it too late..and they'll have no sympathy for her..

tempname1234 · 17/12/2024 10:44

Before reading the entire op, I was irritated to say you were being unreasonable. It you’re not

I think the problem started from your husband. Why were you both having to buy separate gifts for his daughters? Are you not a united couple?

they are very entitled people. Are they not embarrassed to recurve gifts from you, buy for their dad but have to sit there empty handed while everyone but you and your kids open presents?

are your kids just YOUR kids or are they also your husband’s? These girls’ half siblings? If so, doubly rude and entitled.

my husband has a step mother. Arrived in our lives just a few years ago after widowed FIL met her. We buy her a birthday gift (send flowers) and a gift at Christmas. Nothing major - flowers, a scarf, a plant or we may give a gift voucher for their local favourite restaurant as a “couple” gift for them together. We do this to be nice and be respectful of FIL’s choice. (You’d never know we were not actually happy about the situation. We keep that to ourselves or anonymous posts!)

Laurmolonlabe · 17/12/2024 10:28

I think despite your protestations you have been trying to buy their love, I would never keep buying presents for people who don't reciprocate-why would you?
Your DH wants them to have presents he should buy them, he is being totally unreasonable expecting you to keep going to the effort- they are adults too, they can't and shouldn't be treated as if they are both toddlers, and know no better.
Your husband's attitude worries me far more than that of your step daughters, it's not normal, or balanced.
Why would you both buy them presents? My parents have been divorced since I was 8 (I'm 62 now) and I have NEVER received a present just off my step mother, it is always joint with my father.Your DH's refusal to put you on his gift is just weird.
These daughters sound incredibly spoilt, and your husband is used to the idea they always get spoilt- you need to deal with this head on with you DH, he needs to be made to see his attitude is not normal-valuing his daughters hugely more than you, he also sounds controlling and not respectful, you have made up your mind, and he has to respect that.

Lisajane47 · 17/12/2024 10:26

I did the same with the step kids, it was all one sided, I would but for her and her half sister birthdays xmas Easter ect, never thanks, nothing sent for my kids, I stopped it when she was I high school, she doesn't contact us anymore because we don't buy her gifts !!

WildCats24 · 17/12/2024 10:23

Mamana127 · 17/12/2024 09:32

Thank you all about your honest opinions, the brunt of it is my DH is always scared of his daughters I have never understood why. Yes when it comes to them he is weak. He even sort counselling when I tried to leave once. To figure out why he can’t just face them and tell them the truth. It didn’t work.
I’ve tried to help, I’ve tried to talk to them to reassure them that nothing will ever change with me being present in their life, I’ve apologised for the changes they had to endure as teens due to their parents splitting up.
I said the same thing to them when our daughter was born. I’ve cooked, entertained smiled and waved as much as I possible could over the years, I’ve embarrassed myself and put up with things I shouldn’t have put up with, I don’t know why I did. I’m working on myself and how to say no and how to be assertive and firm.
I’m finding my anger as someone said. I hate arguments or upsetting people. But this has led to me being taken advantage of. I know it’s insane but that’s been my reality.
For the sake of my daughters and myself I’m doing something about it. It’s a slow process yes but I will get there. A simple post about presents had evoked memories in my head that are quite painful and disturbing and to think I put up with, some of it w oils not allow now so it’s an achievement to me that I can put my foot down even if it’s a tiny bit.
I work full time and earn a good wage not as high as my DH or DSC but I’m happy to contribute my fair share of our lives because apparently the girls tell him not to waste their inheritance so I have to pay for things. I’ve accepted this because I lived alone for a while with my kids and paid for things so it doesn’t make a difference to me. I’ve never understood the inheritance thing but I respect their views.

Now though I will seek legal advice and change the things which doesn’t favour me or my kids, we matter too.
I don’t want to grow into a resentful woman to two girls who are a product of their parents divorcing or not being raised right.
They probably don’t know any different. Demand and expectation has probably been part of their upbringing and so they do not see anything wrong with it. But I’ve chosen to be left out of that demand and expectation now. I never caused their pain. I must not suffer for something that happened when I was not around. My DH’s guilt is not mine to bear. He said that ex asked him to leave for several years and eventually he left.
he dated before me so it’s not like I was the first. But I know for sure that no matter what woman who comes they will get the same treatment.

I will look into speaking to a solicitor then with the advice she gives me I will speak to my DH to see if we can make changes if not then it’s time I lived my life the way I want to. My late MIL used to tell me “fight for it” it will be all worth it. But then again she was just looking out for her son. She tried her best to be honest. She told me long time ago to tell the girls to go to hell. Of F off but I just kept trying hoping that they would see my intentions.
I will not be replying to any messages as I’m traveling but I thank you all liberated women. Some of the comments were so funny and I wished I was that blunt and that brave. I enjoy Mumsnet and the support it give us. I’ve learnt a lot from this simple post about gifting.

It’s not “their inheritance”—it is your marital income. With care costs, they may end up with £0. But that’s not the point—it is not up to DSDs how the marital assets in your marriage are spent or allocated. It is only their business once it is actually their inheritance—after death.

WildCats24 · 17/12/2024 10:17

Mamana127 · 17/12/2024 07:28

yes he does, he buys them small gifts just from him. I think this has opened my eyes a lot and moving forward everyone should just receive one gift from us. That should simplify things to ALL concerned because we are ending up spending a fortune on presents to family unnecessarily. Perhaps this is what they have always done and I just joined the mix but it needs to change, even my kids need just one present from us really. I’ll discuss this with him today so that I’m making change to everyone not just his girls. For example him and my SIL have bought their dad a present together but he emailled me with what he wants for Christmas. Knowing that his two kids have already got him something. Same for my SIL I always get her and her kids presents (money) and he never gets them anything so perhaps and doesn’t ask to be included.

This seems like a good way forward. I’ve never received separate gifts from a married couple. Ever.

OpalMaker · 17/12/2024 10:09

Your DH sounds like a cock.

I’ve been with my DP two years, and I always buy for his girls and even their Mum (DP’s ex) goes out with the girls to get some bits with them for my birthday and Xmas, as well as DP sorting bits with the girls for me too. DP and I put both of our names on all the presents from us.