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Mamana127 · 15/12/2024 11:51

I have two step daughters one if now 27 and the other one 25 I have known them for 13 years and each Christmas ever since I met them i have bought them presents, nice girly things which they love.
They are now working with really good jobs one earning 150k a year and another 70k. They have been working for over 3 years now. But I have never received even a slicked Carrot from them. They buy their dad presents and nothing for me and my kids. During their birthdays my kids make them crafts and I buy them presents but I’ve never received any for my birthday either or the kids birthday either.
This year while wrapping presents my husband asked me where their presents were? I said I’m not buying them any as they have never got me anything not even a Christmas card. He got really mad and said I’m older I should behave better and two wrongs don’t make a right.
I asked him if he has ever asked them why they don’t buy me anything he said they are old enough to make their minds. Ok and I’m not old enough to make my mind?
when we go on holiday I buy them stuff and they sometimes accept or reject that they don’t like, it I spoke to my MIL about this and she said to me they to stop trying to buy them that they don’t like you.
i have never done anything to these beautiful girls, I met their dad way after he had split frozen their mum and had been in other relationship before me.
I haven’t been trying to buy their love I’ve just been trying to be nice to them. So this year I decided to heed my MIL’s advice, and it blew up into a big argument between me and DH. Mind you DH gets them gifts too so I suggested he writes that it’s from both of us and refused. I’m I right or I’m I being petty.
I mean having to take that decision was hard for my heart but I felt I needed to do it.

OP posts:
CandidHedgehog · 28/12/2024 10:57

If you won’t go after the money you are entitled to for yourself, you should do it for your daughter. Your (not so) DH has demonstrated she will always come very much behind her half-siblings. After all the ways you’ve been lied to and financially exploited by this man, I suspect the only way she will get any sort of inheritance from her father is if you get money in the divorce and invest it for her.

Mamana127 · 28/12/2024 10:21

It’s sad because I promised my MIL I’d fight for my marriage. I’m also never money focused as such. But I’m waking up to the reality that everyone is at 100% money focused and nothing else.
Ive just been wondering why this man married me. Was it because he didn’t want to pay for our child? Because it’s not because of love. Me believing that the crumbs I got from was him being nice is painful for me to bear!

I don’t know what Im going to get out of this my Solicitor says I should go for everything 50/50 but I’m so nervous about the whole thing, I know it’s not my money and feel bad asking for it especially the inheritance money he got from MIL. My MIL gave me money when my daughter was born without telling anyone and made me promise I would never tell. I don’t know if he knows. She said that was my “rainy day gift” and I’ve invested that. She also publicly left abit of money for my DD as a gift on her will.
My conscious just isnt liking the idea of taking money off him and him starting allover again as he did with the ex wife, that crippled him financially.
When we met his parents were supporting him financially a lot. Then they sold their home which was beautiful and gave him money to start allover again.
I just feel like I should leave and take what belongs to me and leave him to it, if I work out from what his salary is what he will pay for CM for our DD it’s a lot of money and I feel that should be enough. 😢
My solicitor says it’s my money too and I’m money naive. 😢 but there is more to life than money really and it causes so much hurt 😢

OP posts:
Floralnomad · 28/12/2024 10:09

LePetitMaman · 28/12/2024 09:59

I can tell you something right now. He hasn't been giving the ex a "small" amount.

You'll be shocked when you find out. He's literally been using you to pay bills so he can bankroll three other adult women. He's scum. And I hope you absolutely ruin him xx

Totally agree that this will be the truth , keep strong @Mamana127

LePetitMaman · 28/12/2024 09:59

I can tell you something right now. He hasn't been giving the ex a "small" amount.

You'll be shocked when you find out. He's literally been using you to pay bills so he can bankroll three other adult women. He's scum. And I hope you absolutely ruin him xx

Tanjamaltija · 28/12/2024 09:46

So, he divorced his wife in deed but not in finances. Ugly. She is using the daughters as a carrot for him, and a whip for you. Uglier. He is trying to play you for a fool. Ugliest.

WickedWitchOfTheEast87 · 28/12/2024 09:35

Mamana127 · 28/12/2024 09:22

Thank you all, Christmas was lovely and chilled, you won’t believe it but where I come from we don’t do presents at all just food music and dance.
My kids forgot about presents too they haven’t asked. there is no Christmas tree either. But their presents are back in England waiting for them I couldn’t carry them. They are outside from am to pm playing with cousins.

UPDATE. my DH received my solicitor’s email and was shocked that I had decided to get a solicitor rather than speak to “my husband” like all married couples do. I told him I’ve tried talking to him but it’s in vain. He never listens to anything I say, my job is just to say yes as far as he is concerned.
Ive said he should provide everything the solicitor asked for then we start from there, he said he won’t but he is happy to show me when I get back.
Said his Will leaves everything to his 3 kids and I get the spousal pension and his life insurance benefits.
He said he has been supporting the ex financially a little bit and that’s why he keeps saying he is broke when he earns 6 figures.
I asked why he is supporting her when their kids are working and earning more than me, she works too on a very senior role so her pay won’t be low.
when they divorced she kept everything they owned and he kept his pensions only, as that is what she wanted and he had agreed as eventually his kids would inherit from her. they also made a financial order in court for a clean break.
he was paying for the girls up until they all started working.
since they divorced he got a different job earning way more than he earned when they were together and she feels entitled to his salary, he got this job after we had started living together, she refused to sell the house to downsize, and now the house is dilapidated and needs constant repair so the money he is giving her is for maintaining the house for the girls.

He constantly goes there to fix things and clear the house, he once spent a whole week cleaning and preparing her house ready for selling.
she never sold the house after that and got into a snit because we got engaged and she wasn’t told, she still hasn’t sold the house and expects money to maintain it which she has been getting.
I asked how much and he said it’s too small to even mention.

I’m so angry I pay everything 50/50 in our house and save very little yet. I’ve been taken advantage of on a larger scale than I even thought.

I’ve said to him unless he sends EVERYTHING to my solicitor I will not return I will find somewhere to go and start the divorce process. I’ve blocked him, until I return because the phone calls were getting ridiculous. He was phoning everyone including my dad to speak to me. Blocked everywhere. I just don’t know how I can be in this marriage again. I really don’t.

As usual he received his Xmas gifts and cards from his girls, my FIL also received gifts from them nothing for me or their my DD. Which is ok but at least we didn’t have to sit there and spectate as the ooohhsss and ahhhhsss they opened their gifts.

my FIL in law was so stressed he went back to his home yesterday, he said it’s the worst Christmas he has ever had, he missed his wife terribly, he missed me and the kids terribly that my DH was stressed and anxious 24/7 especially when the girls were coming.
I’m sure he missed being looked after and waited on no doubt about that. He asked me what was wrong and I said nothing I just went to see my family. they can all to hell!!!
no point talking to him he will only take his side and never ever hear me out.

so yeah I’m busy trying to find a place to stay when I get back. I’m stressed but I feel good because when I confronted my hubby about the whole situation I really told him my piece of mind. All he kept saying is that I can’t just be upset because of presents it’s silly that he put both our names on the presents anyway. Apparently his DD missed their sister very much 🙄🙄. I told him it’s not about presents anymore it’s the unfairness of my marriage.

Omg @Mamana127 he has been financially supporting his ex whilst making you pay 50/50 in everything including buying his ungrateful brats presents with not even a bloody card! Good for you for standing your ground what a selfish thoughtless bastard

1HappyTraveller · 28/12/2024 09:33

Mamana127 · 28/12/2024 09:22

Thank you all, Christmas was lovely and chilled, you won’t believe it but where I come from we don’t do presents at all just food music and dance.
My kids forgot about presents too they haven’t asked. there is no Christmas tree either. But their presents are back in England waiting for them I couldn’t carry them. They are outside from am to pm playing with cousins.

UPDATE. my DH received my solicitor’s email and was shocked that I had decided to get a solicitor rather than speak to “my husband” like all married couples do. I told him I’ve tried talking to him but it’s in vain. He never listens to anything I say, my job is just to say yes as far as he is concerned.
Ive said he should provide everything the solicitor asked for then we start from there, he said he won’t but he is happy to show me when I get back.
Said his Will leaves everything to his 3 kids and I get the spousal pension and his life insurance benefits.
He said he has been supporting the ex financially a little bit and that’s why he keeps saying he is broke when he earns 6 figures.
I asked why he is supporting her when their kids are working and earning more than me, she works too on a very senior role so her pay won’t be low.
when they divorced she kept everything they owned and he kept his pensions only, as that is what she wanted and he had agreed as eventually his kids would inherit from her. they also made a financial order in court for a clean break.
he was paying for the girls up until they all started working.
since they divorced he got a different job earning way more than he earned when they were together and she feels entitled to his salary, he got this job after we had started living together, she refused to sell the house to downsize, and now the house is dilapidated and needs constant repair so the money he is giving her is for maintaining the house for the girls.

He constantly goes there to fix things and clear the house, he once spent a whole week cleaning and preparing her house ready for selling.
she never sold the house after that and got into a snit because we got engaged and she wasn’t told, she still hasn’t sold the house and expects money to maintain it which she has been getting.
I asked how much and he said it’s too small to even mention.

I’m so angry I pay everything 50/50 in our house and save very little yet. I’ve been taken advantage of on a larger scale than I even thought.

I’ve said to him unless he sends EVERYTHING to my solicitor I will not return I will find somewhere to go and start the divorce process. I’ve blocked him, until I return because the phone calls were getting ridiculous. He was phoning everyone including my dad to speak to me. Blocked everywhere. I just don’t know how I can be in this marriage again. I really don’t.

As usual he received his Xmas gifts and cards from his girls, my FIL also received gifts from them nothing for me or their my DD. Which is ok but at least we didn’t have to sit there and spectate as the ooohhsss and ahhhhsss they opened their gifts.

my FIL in law was so stressed he went back to his home yesterday, he said it’s the worst Christmas he has ever had, he missed his wife terribly, he missed me and the kids terribly that my DH was stressed and anxious 24/7 especially when the girls were coming.
I’m sure he missed being looked after and waited on no doubt about that. He asked me what was wrong and I said nothing I just went to see my family. they can all to hell!!!
no point talking to him he will only take his side and never ever hear me out.

so yeah I’m busy trying to find a place to stay when I get back. I’m stressed but I feel good because when I confronted my hubby about the whole situation I really told him my piece of mind. All he kept saying is that I can’t just be upset because of presents it’s silly that he put both our names on the presents anyway. Apparently his DD missed their sister very much 🙄🙄. I told him it’s not about presents anymore it’s the unfairness of my marriage.

Thank you for the update OP. I can’t believe that he has continued to support his ex-wife financially on top of all of this!!!!

Sending you positive thoughts and strength throughout all of this. Enjoy the rest of your time with your family. Make sure you have the absolute best lawyer/solicitor to ensure you receive your true fair share. He doesn’t deserve you.

Mamana127 · 28/12/2024 09:22

Thank you all, Christmas was lovely and chilled, you won’t believe it but where I come from we don’t do presents at all just food music and dance.
My kids forgot about presents too they haven’t asked. there is no Christmas tree either. But their presents are back in England waiting for them I couldn’t carry them. They are outside from am to pm playing with cousins.

UPDATE. my DH received my solicitor’s email and was shocked that I had decided to get a solicitor rather than speak to “my husband” like all married couples do. I told him I’ve tried talking to him but it’s in vain. He never listens to anything I say, my job is just to say yes as far as he is concerned.
Ive said he should provide everything the solicitor asked for then we start from there, he said he won’t but he is happy to show me when I get back.
Said his Will leaves everything to his 3 kids and I get the spousal pension and his life insurance benefits.
He said he has been supporting the ex financially a little bit and that’s why he keeps saying he is broke when he earns 6 figures.
I asked why he is supporting her when their kids are working and earning more than me, she works too on a very senior role so her pay won’t be low.
when they divorced she kept everything they owned and he kept his pensions only, as that is what she wanted and he had agreed as eventually his kids would inherit from her. they also made a financial order in court for a clean break.
he was paying for the girls up until they all started working.
since they divorced he got a different job earning way more than he earned when they were together and she feels entitled to his salary, he got this job after we had started living together, she refused to sell the house to downsize, and now the house is dilapidated and needs constant repair so the money he is giving her is for maintaining the house for the girls.

He constantly goes there to fix things and clear the house, he once spent a whole week cleaning and preparing her house ready for selling.
she never sold the house after that and got into a snit because we got engaged and she wasn’t told, she still hasn’t sold the house and expects money to maintain it which she has been getting.
I asked how much and he said it’s too small to even mention.

I’m so angry I pay everything 50/50 in our house and save very little yet. I’ve been taken advantage of on a larger scale than I even thought.

I’ve said to him unless he sends EVERYTHING to my solicitor I will not return I will find somewhere to go and start the divorce process. I’ve blocked him, until I return because the phone calls were getting ridiculous. He was phoning everyone including my dad to speak to me. Blocked everywhere. I just don’t know how I can be in this marriage again. I really don’t.

As usual he received his Xmas gifts and cards from his girls, my FIL also received gifts from them nothing for me or their my DD. Which is ok but at least we didn’t have to sit there and spectate as the ooohhsss and ahhhhsss they opened their gifts.

my FIL in law was so stressed he went back to his home yesterday, he said it’s the worst Christmas he has ever had, he missed his wife terribly, he missed me and the kids terribly that my DH was stressed and anxious 24/7 especially when the girls were coming.
I’m sure he missed being looked after and waited on no doubt about that. He asked me what was wrong and I said nothing I just went to see my family. they can all to hell!!!
no point talking to him he will only take his side and never ever hear me out.

so yeah I’m busy trying to find a place to stay when I get back. I’m stressed but I feel good because when I confronted my hubby about the whole situation I really told him my piece of mind. All he kept saying is that I can’t just be upset because of presents it’s silly that he put both our names on the presents anyway. Apparently his DD missed their sister very much 🙄🙄. I told him it’s not about presents anymore it’s the unfairness of my marriage.

OP posts:
Christmaschildcare · 27/12/2024 23:33

Really hope you and children are ok @Mamana127 x

Fraaances · 25/12/2024 12:34

@Mamana127 I hope you had a happy Christmas with family who love and respect you, and none of the SD’s dramas. I hope your solicitor manages to sort things out with DH soon and you and your kids find yourselves in a safe and emotionally supportive environment where you are not expected to be the skivvy or the kicking post for anyone ever again.

Tanjamaltija · 24/12/2024 13:31

They are being nasty to you... and your husband is supporting their stinginess and bad manners. So - no, you are not doing anything wrong. If they look at you expectantly, tell them that since they never said they like the gifts, let alone thanked you for them, you assumed they don't want anything from you.

WickedWitchOfTheEast87 · 23/12/2024 23:36

Mamana127 · 23/12/2024 20:29

Yes i have. He has listened and won’t come I hope. He said he will wait for us to return and wishes my papa quick recovery, meaning that he has not received my solicitors letter otherwise the begging would have been on a top notch at this point.

@Mamana127 you've handled this brilliantly. Reading about your husband made my jaw drop that it was nailed to the floor for a week in shock at how he has allowed and enabled his vile daughters! I would have been breathing fire at him long before now.

Don't you dare give into his begging he has only himself to blame for the situation he's in. He has allowed his horrible, nasty, entitled daughters treat you and their sister appallingly and he accepts this! Wtf has his will got to do with his ex thats a red flag so large even bloody Stevie Wonder could see it 10 miles away! His response should have been "that's not your business don't ask again"

Don't let him off with anything he needs to treat your dc together as equally as his other two brats and don't let him wear you down and rethink the divorce he has had plenty of chances to change and to stop their behaviour and he didn't.

He was quite content to allow you to be hurt, upset, disrespected and expect you just suck it up rather than find his spine. If my DP was spineless like yours it would turn me off, my vagina would be dryer than the desert!

1HappyTraveller · 23/12/2024 22:32

Okay…. So ended up reading aaaalllll of the comments after I posted my comment m. Took me a while so I can’t edit that last comment, I’ve seen that you have sought advice. The rest of the thread escalated more than I had realised. I can’t believe how utterly selfish your husband has been during your relationship, your ‘D’SC are awful. I’m also sorry for the loss of your MIL, she sounded like a wise woman and a great support to you.

Best of luck @Mamana127 with everything! In the meantime I hope that you have a lovely Christmas with your family 🫂

1HappyTraveller · 23/12/2024 22:21

Mamana127 · 16/12/2024 10:11

Well yes he said his will leaves everything to his girls plus one of mine that is his split equally. My daughter is young. I put some money into the house purchase. I will be allowed to live in our home as long as I want or buy them out if I can. I’m not originally from the uk so this inheritance thing is new to me. I work very hard and earn well but he earns more than me, we were living together as partners for along time until my MIL told me I need to be married otherwise I’m not protected I said I’m very traditional and marriage should be for love and the man should ask blah blah.. she wont have any of it saying he will never ask because the “forces” wont allow him to remarry 😂 anyway I said why not and insisted we got married and we did, with this comment maybe I can look at my rights as wife to see how I’m protected. Honestly with this post I realise how naive I am and how open eyes I need to be to protect myself from being taken advantage of. Maybe it’s time to rethink things a lot.
Thank you.

Unless you signed a pre-nup my understanding is that provided you are legally married then half of the property is yours. He can
choose what to do with his half but what you do with yours is up to you. Please seek legal advice on this.

1HappyTraveller · 23/12/2024 22:17

Serene135 · 15/12/2024 17:06

I understand why you are annoyed, OP. Although I do think that if it was possible to choose a different wedding date then it would have been better to. Some people stay over in hotels for a wedding and it was her birthday the next day. She might have felt that you chose that date on purpose to be passive aggressive. On the other hand I think you have realised that they don’t really like you or care for you and you have finally decided to stop caring about them too. They are adults so I don’t think their attitude towards you is ever going to change. You’re doing the right thing by stopping the presents and the cooking for them since they don’t like you enough to reciprocate. I think your DH is in the wrong too. He can buy his daughters’ gifts himself. Maybe he feels that you no longer buying them gifts etc is the final nail in the relationship ie when you are buying and cooking for them there is a chance that you can win them around (even though this is highly unlikely).

The step-daughter is a grown woman and needs to get a grip!
It was the day before her birthday. So what if she needed to stay in a hotel and wake up on her birthday to breakfast being made for her? 🤷‍♀️
She didn’t even turn up to her dad’s wedding. She sounds selfish and spiteful!

1HappyTraveller · 23/12/2024 22:12

Mamana127 · 15/12/2024 14:37

Thank you all for your opinions and advice, some of them made me cry for myself.
I’m happy that I’m making baby steps in recognising that I don’t have to please people. And if someone rejects me it’s their loss.
This is hard but through therapy I’m breaking the rejection trauma I suffered as a child which one brick at a time,
this is what has led me to over please people and never seeing anything wrong when people treat me badly.
one brick at a time I will get there. I’ve shed tones of friends, and even family. I miss them but they never appreciated me. Im learning to love me, I recognise that not everyone thinks the way I do, not everyone is kind either, but I don’t have to please them at all.
It’s funny I teach my kids not to people please but they see me doing it. but thank God they are strong confident kids.
when my step kids come I toil in the kitchen cooking for them and their boyfriends and none of them ever helps only DH helps.
Then I’m left to tidy up while they drink and merry. Yes it’s been awful I cry about it after and keep it inside, hoping they will see sense or be kind back but it’s not happening.
my DH is a nice person to me but he would never say boo to his daughters, whatever they say goes. When we got married I chose a date and the 27 year old said we can’t get married that day because it’s a day before her birthday I thought it was a joke but he was actually begging me to pick a different date. My MIL went ballistic at him as I was just stunned into silence. I just couldn’t believe what I was hearing. I said no and she didn’t come to the wedding the youngest one came though and even did a reading.

All in all I’ve given up now. I’m not buying presents nor entertaining their nonsense or my DH’s nonsense. I’m fighting the urge to keep being good. I’m doing me and saying no to things that make me sad, I’ve got an amazing therapist who is helping me deal with this. Who knows who I will be after this journey.

I thank you all. ❤️❤️❤️.

Sending hugs 🫂

Nikki75 · 23/12/2024 20:32

YANBU I think it's absolutely horrible that they don't buy you a gift or send a nice card.
My dad remarried I could never leave my dads wife out or my mums partner I would always buy them a gift.
Your husband needs to step up and tell them to treat you better.
My mums partners daughter would never acknowledge my mum in a christmas card my mums partner told his daughter that after 10 years and now living together either wish my mum a merry Christmas and acknowledge her aswell or dont bother at all.

Mamana127 · 23/12/2024 20:29

Pensionswew · 23/12/2024 16:37

This is such a hard thread to read.
You are such a nice decent woman, but you were far to soft.

Your husband is scum.
He is a weasel and a snake.

You are worth 10 of him.
I sincerely hope he has an utterly miserable Christmas.

I hope you have told him not to visit you.
Enjoy the sun, peace, and the love of your family.

Yes i have. He has listened and won’t come I hope. He said he will wait for us to return and wishes my papa quick recovery, meaning that he has not received my solicitors letter otherwise the begging would have been on a top notch at this point.

OP posts:
Pensionswew · 23/12/2024 16:37

This is such a hard thread to read.
You are such a nice decent woman, but you were far to soft.

Your husband is scum.
He is a weasel and a snake.

You are worth 10 of him.
I sincerely hope he has an utterly miserable Christmas.

I hope you have told him not to visit you.
Enjoy the sun, peace, and the love of your family.

Mamana127 · 23/12/2024 15:41

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/12/2024 18:53

If the will.predates your marriage then the will is invalid, and you will inherit as his wife as per British law. So if that's the case, keep your gob shut so he doesn't change it.

@PyongyangKipperbang
the will was changed immediately after our wedding. I changed mine too to reflect the marriage. Apparently my DH’s will and the ex’s will mirror each other and he promised her he would never change it. I found a txt from the ex when our DD was born asking him not to change his will, when I asked him why the ex has a say on what goes In his will he said she doesn’t but she wants to make sure that the girls will inherit everything as they had agreed years ago. Anyway my new DD was added in the will at apparently the same % as DSD. I’ve never seen this. And that’s one of the requests I’d like to know. It’s ok if he wants to not leave me and my 2 DDs anything. Because I’ve done the same as he asked me to.

OP posts:
JenniferBooth · 23/12/2024 14:16

Mamana127 · 23/12/2024 10:14

@Hii93,
I wish! They don’t have a relationship with either me or my kids so how would I even start asking them about babysitting them, they also live miles away, when they visit I make sure the kids are not there as their attitude towards them in the past has been awful, they are just not interested in us. I would never ask them to baby sit my kids. NEVER!

But they WILL ask you to babysit theirs when the time comes.

Sorry, posted before i saw all your updates.

Mamana127 · 23/12/2024 13:03

Well there is always two sides to a story very true. I have never blamed my DSC for the way things are. Infact I said up there that I’m sure if I didn’t buy them presents they probably wouldn’t mind.
it’s my DH who is bothered about the repercussions is any. He thinks they will ask why I didn’t buy them presents and create hell for him, I don’t think they will, but he knows better.

I just said I have chosen not to buy them present this year and many more to come. I have accepted my place in their lives as they have wished me to.

All in all this question about buying them presents through this group opened my eyes to the fact that my DH is not fair, doesn’t take my interest into consideration and doesn’t care about anything that is upsetting me. This is no longer about Christmas presents I’m afraid.

I think these two young ladies found themselves with two splitting parents something they never signed up for, I actually feel sorry for them, their world was ripped apart when their parents split, they never imagined they would have to share both their parents with strangers on a very intimate level with anyone let alone a step sibling. I understood this from the onset and that is why I have tried my hardest to please then and show them that I’m not a monster.

I know the present thing is not a big deal, but it is when it comes to my kids, if they bought presents for my kids only and not me I’d be quite happy with it. But they don’t. My DH gets the kids to make them crafty things and wrap up as presents and I stopped this too.

What happened between my DH and his ex is not my doing, besides apparently she asked him to leave after years of not getting on and sleeping in separate rooms. There was no affairs involved.
I WOULD NEVER date a married man, so I was NOT The O/W, but the treatment I have received is something that the O/W should receive if any.

I have asked my solicitor to ask my husband for everything I need to know and for him to provide documents and proof before I can go back home. If he chooses to refuse then it’s not a safe marriage for me financially and mentally and I will proceed with divorce and cut my losses.
If he provides them then we will have to speak openly about everything and I have to be part of everything 50/50 especially things we have achieved together since we started living together and married.
Im very well informed now and if my only attraction was being naive then it’s won’t be such a bag this if I leave, he can just find another naive woman.
Back in England I hear Christmas is cancelled my DH will go to his dad’s rather than him coming over as they normally do, with my DSIL and her kids in France this year and my DMIL in heaven, they will just spend Christmas Day together the two of them then do Christmas when the girls come on the 27th and they will eat out in a pub. It’s a sad Christmas for all of us as it’s the first without MIL and I feel bad about leaving, but I had to. I was going insane. But it Sounds like a good plan to eat out.
Thank you all for your support and for the loving advice I received in this group. Have a happy Christmas ❤️❤️

OP posts:
Mamana127 · 23/12/2024 12:34

saffronspices,
I have dreaded Boxing Day every year more so when they got older, I think I tolerated it better but from 17 onwards I’ve hated those days and wished I could pretend to be unwell or something.
I remember one Boxing Day, I will never forget. It’s the first Boxing Day they came with their boyfriends. I had never met them my DH had. I was in the kitchen with MIL when they came, they came in hugged their Nan, said hi to me politely then we all went upstairs where their boyfriends were to open presents.

They came loaded loaded with presents for Nan, Grammy, cousins & DH, and of course as we had done our Christmas on Christmas Day their present from the entire family has been left under the tree for them to open including for their new boyfriends which has been carefully bought as per their advice.
So as is traditionally done in our house kids take turns in handing out presents. My kids handed presents to everyone except me and themselves. The little one started crying and I just told her that she had opened all her presents yesterday and she should fetch them to show everyone what she got, to which she thought about it for a second then ran off to do so.
My Kids on the other hands were more clued up but I spoke to them afterwards and told them the same that they had opened their presents.
I never let them take part in that present opening on Boxing Day anymore they go to their dads to spend the day there now. My MIL felt so embarrassed she gave my kids her presents to open for her.

I have never felt so uncomfortable in my own home as I felt that day. I just wanted to disappear in the thin air. one of the boyfriends for the older DSD just kept staring at me as if he had seen a ghost, 😂😂😂😂😂😂 just gazing at me quizzically or pitifully I don’t know.
But I will never forget that look. He is such a good young man he usually talks to me and tries to make conversations but he still looks at me in wonder that way to this date 😂😂😂😆, I wonder what he has been told.

Oh well Im having Christmas in the sun my kids are running around outside with their cousins everyone is happy. My marriage is on my mind 24/7 but all I’ve done since I arrived is sleep. my family is huge and my parents farm is full of love.

OP posts:
Mamana127 · 23/12/2024 10:28

JenniferBooth · 22/12/2024 13:52

Much more likely that the daughters will use the OP for childcare if they have kids. They sound like the type who will be happy to leave the child they claim to love with someone they despise. ............oh yes it happens. Exibit A

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/stepparenting/4888934-caring-for-step-grandchild

@JenniferBooth,
I know for a fact it would happen if I stick around, I would be lumbered with looking after their kids pretending that daddy is looking after them.
I also know I will not be invited to either of their weddings because their mum would not allow it.
She is really bitter, She refused to attend my MIL’s funeral because I was there and I was organising it. I was 100% of the opinion that she should attend if she wanted to, she knew MIL for many years too.
I wanted to give my MIL a beautiful send off so I did everything just how she wanted it to be, I promised her I would.
I’m not really sure why her and her daughter hate me so much, I have asked my DH if I should write to her but he absolutely refused saying if I want her to kill herself and be blamed for it I should. Its shocking my DH after 3 failed relationships post leaving his marriage. Anyway I’m putting all this behind me now.
I realise I’m dealing with something beyond me.

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Codlingmoths · 23/12/2024 10:19

Hii93 · 22/12/2024 11:27

I mean could it be that you are trying to force a relationship between them and your kids so you can use them for babysitting etc. I would like to hear their side

Why would you bother hearing their side when you’re so good already at just pulling shit out of thin air? You carry on with that.