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For not wanting to share my lottery winnings with my sister after she let me move in with her?

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SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

OP posts:
Petlover9 · 14/12/2024 18:04

Maboscelar · 13/12/2024 14:22

YANBU. It's your money and she didn't help you back then, she took advantage of your desperation to make you her skivvy who also paid to live in a damp garage!! She treated you badly. Spend the money on yourself and do not feel guilty.

Totally agree with this ^^. You MUST look after yourself as you don't know what the future holds. My only criticism is that you should not have told anyone, now just buy your home, your money is your business.

WhereYouLeftIt · 14/12/2024 18:04

To quote my response prior to your update -

"Your sister is, frankly, a piece of work."

She was a liar before, and she's a liar now. She exploited you financially before, and she's going to financially exploit you again by offloading her 15 year old son onto you - there was no mention of her paying for his keep, was there? No, of course not! She has no respect for you and no affection - for her, you are merely a resource to be exploited to her advantage.

Please, please, sit and think over how she has manipulated you AGAIN.

I know you won't do this but just consider - what do you think her husband would say if you told him you were so sorry to hear that his marriage to your sister is on the rocks? Because I would bet good money that it would be news to him.

Protect yourself from your devious manipulative sister. Because she will fuck you over without hesitation.

ThisIcyHare · 14/12/2024 18:03

she didn’t let you live with her, she charged you an exorbitant amount of money to live in a damp garage where you contracted pneumonia, used you as a chauffeur, babysitter, gardener, and dog shit cleaner upper. She didn’t support you, she did the absolute bare minimum, and didn’t even have the decency to allow you some breathing space on ‘rent’ so you had to stay with an abusive partner for another 3 months. She let that happen to you.

Her husband bores her, poor her. She will get half of everything in a divorce, which is more than where you started. Enjoy renovating your new home and don’t bother with her if that’s her attitude. Congratulations on your lottery win, you enjoy it as you deserve!

GivingitToGod · 14/12/2024 18:03

Perhaps offer your sister some money but not so much that it will prevent you putting a deposit on a flat

converseandjeans · 14/12/2024 18:01

Sorry but no - she charged you the going rate for a bedroom but you had to live in the garage & you also had to help with children & pets & lifts to appointments.

Offer her to stay in the camper & charge her £375/month!

LouDeLou · 14/12/2024 18:01

The story of what your sister did to you has left me gobsmacked 😲

Rowen32 · 14/12/2024 18:00

OP, you are being very forgiving and I don't understand why. That's a crazy amount of money she took from you, how are you not furious? And thinking you were lying about bring abused, I wouldn't speak to her again.

Beanzmeanz · 14/12/2024 18:00

Just remember your sister (I presume) owns half the house she lives in. You don’t own anything. As she is the primary carer for the children she should stay in the house and ask her husband to leave.
Your update doesn’t really improve my opinion of her but at least you have been more honest with each other

Volumedelachanel · 14/12/2024 17:58

Your sister is a master manipulator. She has played you completely.

But going forward, there's no way I'd be letting a difficult teen move into my one bed apartment.

Lotsofsnacks · 14/12/2024 17:51

OP after just one meeting with your sister, she has managed to manipulate you again and tug on your heart strings, you have already agreed to let her teenage son stay with you, why?!! He should be with his family. Id be worried she’s trying to get all her clan in your flat. Tell her you’ve changed your mind, and change your locks. Don’t fall for any of this OP, get yourself the lovely flat, on your own! You wont enjoy being at home when the teenage boy starts bringing mates round when you are trying to relax of an evening.

ThisRedLion · 14/12/2024 17:50

You shouldn't give her anything she sounds petty and greedy and there's so much help for her to leave her husband and while she has 3 kids she stays put and husband moves out sounds like a scam, you go get your flat and get on your feet always be there for your sister remind her that what she asked of you was horrid and demeaning at a time you needed her love and strength and to make you have to stay for extra 3 months with an abusive partner is beyond disgusting if that was my sister she would of stayed in our house rent free and looked after and wouldn't dare ask her to look after my kids or do my gardening so no she's entitled to bugger all

TwinklyMintHelper · 14/12/2024 17:47

Dear me! How supportive of her to let you rent their garage to live in (not)! And then to use you as their unpaid help. Sounds to me as though they have money problems.

Keep your money for your own future, especially after everything you have been through. Don’t worry about what your manipulative and selfish sister is saying. Take a deep breath, give her a big NO. And put yourself first - you deserve it. If she wants to separate from her husband, it is he who will have to move out. Legally, she is entitled to stay there with the kids. She is trying to exploit you, just as she did previously. You don’t need this!

Noodles1234 · 14/12/2024 17:45

I am sorry for your sister and her children, I really am being on my second marriage (first abusive only emotionally not physically).
however, this is your chance and your life, you paid your way in your sisters driveway (omg-ness), but you have your chance and you take it by the horns.

by all means offer a loan (be prepared you will never get it back), or offer the sofa for a month when you have moved in until they find a place, but when they get their share of the family home you will need a home too.

good luck and so exciting for you!

Nerlin9812 · 14/12/2024 17:44

Do not give her any money at all, she sounds manipulative and selfish. She had you living in a garage where you got ill. She isn’t in a life or death situation with her husband. Look after you

Olderbutt · 14/12/2024 17:41

Maboscelar · 13/12/2024 14:22

YANBU. It's your money and she didn't help you back then, she took advantage of your desperation to make you her skivvy who also paid to live in a damp garage!! She treated you badly. Spend the money on yourself and do not feel guilty.

This!

tommyhoundmum · 14/12/2024 17:38

Please use your money to secure your future.

missod · 14/12/2024 17:27

She's a taker and you're a giver, the perfect match.

You're too bloody nice OP, pack it in!

redalex261 · 14/12/2024 17:16

I’m with @Inmydreams88 cannot believe some of the shit behaviour I read about on these threads.

LEND her the deposit. That’s far more generous than what she did for you. It allows her to leave, she can claim any assistance via means tested benefits she may be entitled to. Point her in the direction of websites and a solicitor for advice. Be a shoulder to cry on. All of this makes you a far more decent relative than she was.

SpunkyKoala · 14/12/2024 17:13

She doesn’t love you as much as you love her. She could have let you park your van in her garage for cost but she didn’t she wanted to skim a profit from you DO NOT hand over your winnings to her. When people show you who they are believe them.

CatherinedeBourgh · 14/12/2024 17:07

Well done for talking to her.

However, you do still have to work on your boundaries - she is abusing you. Her sob stories are just ways of manipulating you. I understand that you love her children dearly, but you do need to take care of yourself first and foremost.

Do not get trapped into living with (and possibly supporting) her teen for longer than you are comfortable doing.

Ladybugger · 14/12/2024 16:57

Well done OP for having it out with your sister.
She has treated you so badly.
She made to pay all that money to sleep in a damp caravan and she took the extra for herself!
I really don't think it's a good idea at all to have your nephew in your 1 bed flat.
If he genuinely needs your support then:

  • only agree to take him in with a clear deadline, (e.g you can stay for 2 weeks, no more)
  • only agree to take him in if you get a contribution from his parents for food and bills. Teenagers eat a lot and their devices consume electricity!
No deadline and no financial contribution = no nephew lodger. Full stop. Be prepared for her to say she can't afford to give you a contribution towards his meals. But that is a lie, because she can afford it now. If she can't afford to contribute for his food, what she is saying is she can't be arsed to prioritise feeding her son. Think about that... Imagine anyone actually saying that...! You deserve more and better for your life OP. You've worked so hard to get your flat. Well done. Don't risk it now! Sometimes sadly our lives are better without certain people in them, even if we are related to them.
Fraaances · 14/12/2024 16:39

Where was this blood that was thicker than water when you were desperate? In the shed? No… Why is her desperation more important and immediate than yours? (Especially now she’s heard you have some cash….)
Nope… She can fuck right off to Buffalo. I’d help DBIL before I’d help her. She’s a selfish piece of work.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 14/12/2024 16:38

Her marriage is in a worse state than I originally thought. I feel awful about this one and wish she had told me sooner, her and her husband have apparently been on the rocks for the last 5 years or so and thought having another baby would help but it's just made them much worse off financially.

OP.. Read your last para again.

According to your sister. Her marriage is in a worse state than you originally thought. for five years... without much of a hint?
Yet you have been practically living with them for two years - quite easy to observe what was going on from that perspective... over the course of two years. So I don't think it was in such bad shape. She expects you to percieve more about the state of her marriage without her actually mentioning anything. Yet even when you beg her for help to escape an abusive marriage - she decides that you must be lying and she believes your abuser instead.

And the main problem in the marriage seems to be.... surprise... financial.... by an extraordinary coincidence of convenient timing, you are the ONLY way they can solve this problem. The ONLY way, who cares if it means giving up your previously unattainable dream of owning your own 1 bed flat? not your sister, that's for sure.

This is the sister who has just admitted to ripping you off financially for two years, in conditions that got you hospitalised, and extracting enormous amounts of unpaid help from you.

Yet YOU feel awful about this. Why? You've already been subsidising them for two years with free labour and exhtorionate rent for a damp garage,.

Can't you see whats wrong with this sob story. And also, wouldn't your life have been MUCH better if your sister felt as "awful" about your situation, as you do about hers?

Added to which, she's now palmed her son off on you because he's troublesome. She's totally played on your feelings for your nephew. Without a doubt you will be footing all his bills and running around after him. To be brutally frank, its another unpaid job she's signed you up for. A job she should be doing herself. Why did you agree to this? She's an uncaring liar and you can't keep being sympathetic when you don't know what's true. Keep in touch with your nephew, help him out, but don't let him move into your ONE BEDROOM FLAT.
Its not your job to subsidise her life - she has her own house and husband.
Its not your job to have her children to live with you.
It's not your job to put your own life on hold, just when you have a chance of stability after years of suffering, in order to make her already much easier life than yours - another bit easier.

You can be a sister, and an aunt, without sacrificing your own happiness. Meet them for coffee or a walk in the park. Spend time with your DN, but don't have him live with you and live off you.
Your sister is manipulating and using you. Don't let her.

peachystormy · 14/12/2024 16:24

What a cheek your sister has! I would never ask someone for half of their winnings. Your sister sounds like a b.itch sorry but she set out all those silly ground rules, still charged you and expected you to be some sort of nanny. On her bike I would be telling her. Don't let her guilt trip you. Use the money for your new place to refurb it

Delphiniumandlupins · 14/12/2024 16:07

I agree with others that you still need to set better boundaries with your sister. Did your big discussion include any apology from her for blackmailing you with the threat that you wouldn't see your nephews?
How do you plan to accommodate a 15 year old boy in a one-bedroom flat? You both will need space and privacy. I know you want to help your sister and her family but you're giving too much.