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For not wanting to share my lottery winnings with my sister after she let me move in with her?

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SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

OP posts:
JudgeJ · 13/12/2024 15:13

Maray1967 · 13/12/2024 14:26

But she didn’t help you! She charged you £375 a month to park on her drive and use the shower. What on earth?!!

I’d offer to return the favour. She can live in your van on your drive for £375.

And unfortunately you’ve had to learn a lesson the hard way - don’t tell relatives about your finances.

I doubt she would have been allowed to rent the space on her drive for someone to live in had she asked. especially in such conditions. Did she declare this income for tax purposes?

Lilactimes · 13/12/2024 15:13

Please say strong @SarahJP95 - I’m so happy you’ve had some luck. Do not squander it on anyone - make sure you’re secure. I feel like your sister never treated you very well. You would have been in my house straight away - I wouldn’t have sent you back to place where you were under the threat of physical violence - not EVER.
I would go quiet for a bit, keep away from the family and get your place sorted. It is no one’s business, it’s your money, you deserve it, and when you had needed your family, you still paid and worked and helped them. You don’t owe them anything because you paid your way. Good luck, stay strong and use this windfall for some joy and security x

housethatbuiltme · 13/12/2024 15:13

Well obviously the correct answer is to charge her £375 to park her van outside your new flat but let her use your shower.

Help her how she helped you.

Tink63 · 13/12/2024 15:12

You have done nothing wrong. If my sister won something I would be happy for her, not demand it off her. She

treated you appallingly. You lived in her garage. You were ordered to do chores and babysitting and paid for the privilege. You developed pneumonia. If someone treated a dog like that they would be prosecuted.

You are better off without these toxic grabby people in your life. Stand firm and don’t allow yourself to be blackmailed.

MillyVannily · 13/12/2024 15:11

Don't give her money!!!
Paying her rent btw for staying in her garden was ludicrous!!!

Unrealnotunrealistic · 13/12/2024 15:10

SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 13/12/2024 14:49

I wouldn't be at all surprised if you gave her some of your winnings and she suddenly miraculously made up with her husband.

This!

Shitgift · 13/12/2024 15:10

You should generously offer her the same thing she did you. Switch out the babysitting and gardening for scrubbing your toilet and don't forget she needs to pay you an additional amount for the van hire if she uses yours not her own.

YYURYYUCICYYUR4ME · 13/12/2024 15:09

I think this thread confirms the fact that you should never tell anyone you win money / have money, to stop those that want their cut coming out of the woodwork and never a borrower or lender be, if you want to remain sane and friends! She doesn't want you, she wants your money and this is your freedom, compromise it now and you will regret it for ever.

NoJamSlags · 13/12/2024 15:09

TheSilkWorm · 13/12/2024 14:24

Offer her a van in the garage for £375 a month 🤷🏼‍♀️
Is she offering to repay the money? If so, is she trustworthy? what's the reason she can't afford to move out herself?

@TheSilkWorm I feel that’s overly generous. Surely it should be like for like and the OP should simply offer her sister the garage with an increased rent of £450 (cost of living/inflation etc)?

Lotsofsnacks · 13/12/2024 15:07

This is why you don’t tell anybody if u win a substantial amount of money!

Ginnnny · 13/12/2024 15:06

Do NOT give your sister a single Penny!

Itiswhysofew · 13/12/2024 15:05

That's a rotten sister you've got for there. She made you live in a van in her damp garage, charged you rent, expected you to skivvy for her - the mind boggles.

Have you told the family who are now berating you, the exact conditions of your stay at her home. Anyway, tell them to mind their own bloody business.

Do not share your winnings with her. She has a safe home with her boring husband, and she can work out the separation from there.

Enjoy your new flat. You deserve itFlowers

isthesolution · 13/12/2024 15:04

TheSilkWorm · 13/12/2024 14:24

Offer her a van in the garage for £375 a month 🤷🏼‍♀️
Is she offering to repay the money? If so, is she trustworthy? what's the reason she can't afford to move out herself?

Exactly my thought. Offer her the van in the garage! And write a list of rules!

LumpyandBumps · 13/12/2024 15:03

Why are your father and cousins getting involved?
It doesn’t sound like your father helped you when you needed it so he has no right to accuse you of being selfish.
Sometimes you have to look after Number One. This is one of those times. Enjoy the security of your own flat.

ScrollingLeaves · 13/12/2024 15:03

ScrollingLeaves · 13/12/2024 14:56

I voted tgat you are not being unreasonable.

It may have been her husband charging you all that money to live in your van on their premises - as if you were renting a room in their house - but it was not very nice of them.

What I would suggest is, if you can, getting a two room flat for yourself. In your name only, and letting her stay with youas a lodger only, paying enough weekly to cover her share for electricity, gas, insurance council tax and wear and tear ( there is a tax free allowance for this for you); and then also buying her own share of food.

Then she can do what you did and save up for a deposit on her own place.

I forgot about your van. Let her borrow that.

I get the feeling you were the one in your possibly malfunctioning family supposed to sacrifice yourself and be like an ever giving mum, while other spoilt ones were indulged. I apologise if I am wrong, but maybe use some if your money for counselling for yourself to rebuild your sense of your own worth if the family has always been emotionally blackmailing you like this.

cookingthebooks · 13/12/2024 15:02

FFS reading what she did to you when you wanted to leave your abusive ex made me so sad. She’s awful! If you’d been my sibling I’d never have let you go home, you’d have had the spare room until the new baby was too big to be in with us and then they’d have either gone in with a sibling or you’d have had the sofa!

I’d honestly consider cutting your shitty family out

TeeBee · 13/12/2024 15:02

Yeah, fuck that! Give her exactly the same conditions as she gave you...she can clean your house and do your chores and it will cost £400/month (because inflation) and she can sleep on the floor. Cheeky, selfish cow. I would never do that to my sister.

Dollybantree · 13/12/2024 15:01

So she used you as an unpaid slave (you paying her in fact) in exchange for being allowed to park your van on her driveway??

What a horrible cow your sister is - YANBU!

JacCharlton · 13/12/2024 15:01

I would never let my sister live in a van ! Sounds like you were treat like a 2nd class citizen - take your winnings and have a fresh start - she wants a flat yet she was happy to let you rent space for your van - speechless.

Didsomeonesaydogs · 13/12/2024 14:59

SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 13/12/2024 14:49

I wouldn't be at all surprised if you gave her some of your winnings and she suddenly miraculously made up with her husband.

This is exactly where my mind went.

unclebuck · 13/12/2024 14:59

tell her she can stay on your sofa for £375 a month . I am sorry this happened to you OP

DoNotAdjustYourSex · 13/12/2024 14:58

Pay for her to see a solicitor, who is likely to tell her to stay in the marital home, then there won’t be any argument about lending her any money. (Obviously this only applies if she isn’t in any danger) but she did not treat you at all well, they charged you to live in your van in their garage. I’m afraid you reap what you sow, and in this case she sowed a whole crock of shit.

Please take whatever steps you need to secure your own future, you deserve to have your own home. Then you may be able to help your sister.

WildCats24 · 13/12/2024 14:58

Nope. She can pay you £375/month to live in your parking space at your flat (plus house sitting and pet sitting chores for free), and can have a shower.

Jackiepumpkinhead · 13/12/2024 14:57

She didn’t let you ‘move in’, she let you use her cold garage and charged you a ridiculous amount of money. She also took advantage of your situation with the child and pet sitting etc. Tell her to get lost (or in nicer terms) regarding the money.

WinWhenTheyreSinging · 13/12/2024 14:56

Should you make a flat deposit unaffordable for yourself to support someone who let you live in their garage like a dog AND charged you a not insubstantial sum for it? Let's give that some thought ...