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For not wanting to share my lottery winnings with my sister after she let me move in with her?

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SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

OP posts:
Jellytrain · 18/12/2024 07:25

I would never allow a human to live in a garage, it's immoral!! And charge rent?! What on earth!! Just no.

Runingoncaffeine · 18/12/2024 07:17

I am horrified to learn that you developed pneumonia in your sisters home while fleeing abuse. That doesn’t sit right with me at all, nor does being expected to work. What a terrible way to treat someone, let alone your own sister.

congratulations on your lottery win - you deserve this. It’s the universe’s way of cutting you some slack - good karma if you will. 🤍

You don’t owe your sister anything in terms of money, I feel you’ve given enough to her. however I don’t believe in stooping to other people’s level out of spite, so I guess you can still support her in leaving her husband but not in terms of money I don’t think… unless she’s going to pay it back to you. You sound like a lovely person for considering giving her some of the money you were going to spend on your flat.

Griff1963 · 18/12/2024 06:40

Don't give her a penny! How can someone charge rent to their sibling, for parking on their drive??

Anuta77 · 17/12/2024 15:41

Waterweight · 17/12/2024 12:15

To be fair the husband's version of events Is that he agreed to let her stay when she first planned to move into the spare room but asked if they could charge her rent (£150) as he was working full time

Her sister turned around & charged £375 then took the spare room back for the baby (she could now afford to spend extra money on...?) & had her living in a van outside doing chores & free childcare
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OP. I don't think you have to stoop low here & cut her off if you want to be involved with her & her family but she needs to be accountable & even willing to make changes (look for work) to pay you back/save up her own income & this is what you can help her with not leaving the marriage - that's between her & her husband - but by being willing to talk to her. Allowing a repayment plan a bit less then she owes ect.

Just know your a good person at heart & you have boundries in place

Except how will she enforce the repayment? Given the sister's lying and taking advantage behaviour I'm not sure she would, especially if she's convinced that the OP is better off than her.
My own sister asked me to sign as garantor for a loan for her. I did it without thinking, then realized that I myself couldn't take a loan from that organization until she repays it. THe amount isn't huge, but my sister didn't care that I might need to take a loan (luckily my mom could lend me money) and told me shamelessly that she will be refunding at a minimum and it will take her a few years, knowing very well that I could need to take a loan. People always think about themselves first.

Waterweight · 17/12/2024 12:15

SomewhereInTheMIdlands · 14/12/2024 20:40

From the outside, she seems to be incredibly selfish. £375 for a cold garage is obscene and very greedy on her part. She didn't really look after you and made you take 3 months more abuse from your scumbag just to fill her pockets. She and he had to do nothing in order to have you in her garage and you did lots of unpaid work for her. Keep the money and put it towards your own security. She can have more than a half share of her house on account of the children if she fks him off.

To be fair the husband's version of events Is that he agreed to let her stay when she first planned to move into the spare room but asked if they could charge her rent (£150) as he was working full time

Her sister turned around & charged £375 then took the spare room back for the baby (she could now afford to spend extra money on...?) & had her living in a van outside doing chores & free childcare
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OP. I don't think you have to stoop low here & cut her off if you want to be involved with her & her family but she needs to be accountable & even willing to make changes (look for work) to pay you back/save up her own income & this is what you can help her with not leaving the marriage - that's between her & her husband - but by being willing to talk to her. Allowing a repayment plan a bit less then she owes ect.

Just know your a good person at heart & you have boundries in place

ZestyJoey · 17/12/2024 10:11

You should offer to help her by letting her move into your new garage for £375/mo plus various expenditures. TBH in that period of time where you lived in her garage it seems you helped her more than she helped you...

T1Dmama · 17/12/2024 09:23

She took an extra £225 off you without telling you or her husband?!….
Jeez!
amd to sort their marriage they’re dumping their oldest onto you and blaming him for their issues!!
your sister is an arse!

T1Dmama · 17/12/2024 09:13

Your sister is a cheeky cow!! She didn’t help and support you…. She allowed you to live in your own bloody cold damp van and charged you rent for the privilege!…. Also made you do chores and babysit for free… sounds more like abuse and slavery than helo and support!!
SHE doesn’t need your money, she has a house, her husband isn’t abusive and she doesn’t NEED to move out, she just wants to…. She should be telling her husband that it’s over and he can rent a one bed place !! … or indeed pay a fortune to sleep in his own car at a friends!!…
Buy your flat for yourself… you paid to stay at your sisters… she DID NOT help you financially AT ALL!!!…. In fact she ripped you off…
Buy your flat and tell her she’s welcome to buy a motorhome and sleep on your drive for £509 a month plus cleaning your house for free!!!

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 16/12/2024 20:05

Well she did help you, but let's face it, she made it into a business transaction.

Honestly, I don't think you owe her anything, even the refurb money.

Susan7654 · 16/12/2024 16:14

She was using you. Rooms are £550. And she charged you for a garage £350? And you were begging her to consider and she didnt lower it after that. Whow! No wonder she wants to put her hands on your money now. And leaving husband, because he is boring? Tell her she needs to think about kids and appreciate her husband. He is propably doing the best he can to please her.
I guess in your relationship you were the nice one and she is a taker and puts herself first. Think twice if you want her in your life close. Better to make a distance. Can you move far away from her?

Goodtogossip · 16/12/2024 11:39

It was really unfair of your Sister to charge you as much as she did to stay in her garage just so she had money of her own. It's good that you've talked things through & have cleared the air a bit now. I'd not be sharing my winnings though, You'll be able to help her a lot more having your own place, like having her Son stay with you will help her & the situation at home. Explain that you love her & will help all you can but financially at the moment you're not in a position to as the money you've won will go towards your new flat so you'll never be in the position you were in & will never have to live in a van in a garage again.

Mythoughts1 · 16/12/2024 04:34

You need to keep that money for yourself or you may never get the chance again ( to get your flat). She was pretty heartless towards you in the past. You owe her nothing. Other family members need to stay out of it. Nothing to do with them. And by the way congrats on your win. Sounds like you really needed it and what's more after everything you've been through deserve it. I bet if the situation was reversed your sister would not split the win with you.

Janiebirdy · 15/12/2024 23:59

Sorry OP, as others have said, your sister’s taking advantage of you again and making it sound all reasonable. Just remember you developed pneumonia in your van whilst paying rent and working for free for her. I could be wrong but the story your sister’s telling you re her current circumstances is likely skewed.

CoffeeDogwalkTennis · 15/12/2024 22:44

Do not give her any money.

when my sister left her husband I provided food, she could shower / bathe etc. I did not have a penny for looking after her.

I do have one question - why doesn’t your dad help out?

WhatMummyMakesSheEats · 15/12/2024 21:33

You don’t need a bedroom for a baby for at least 6 months, but ‘expecting’? £375 to park on the drive and be her chauffeur? She sounds awful.

jannier · 15/12/2024 20:15

She didn't help you out she grabbed the chance to make money.

pollymere · 15/12/2024 18:55

I could never do what your sister did to you.

  1. She didn't help you flee abuse.
  2. Babies don't need the spare room for at least six months so you could have slept there
  3. She charged you for a garage rental AND expected you to work for her for free.

I couldn't do that to anyone - my SIL or my brother definitely not.

You owe her absolutely nothing. Especially not your lottery winnings. She was greedy. If she'd opened her arms to you when you truly needed her then perhaps you'd feel more able to help.

She's also not asking for help getting him out, or moving to a hostel... She wants you to pay for her to have a huge house! If she'd asked humbly for a LOAN on a two-bed flat you might have been sympathetic.

I still can't get over that £375!

Rhaenys · 15/12/2024 18:13

At most let her stay with you in your flat for a bit - but make sure she pays rent!

Anuta77 · 15/12/2024 16:57

I wouldn't be able to get past her charging me more while lying to me and her husband, basically making money off my vulnerability.
I also agree that while you love your nephew, don't take him in full time. As a mother of a 16 year old, I can't imagine shipping him off to someone else. He only stayed some weekends in other people's houses and only a few times in his life.
I know it's hard when it's your family and it takes a long time to open your eyes, but I get a feeling that your sister is somehow jealous of you. You were a baby when she was a teenager certainly getting more attention than her (my mom's sister was 12 years older and it was visible all the resentment she had towards my mom despite sometimes a seemingly ok relationship, all that until her 80s). Now your sister is in an unhappy marriage (and she contributes to it) while you are young and single. When people are jealous of you, they don't want your happiness. I would take my distances.

coldcallerbaiter · 15/12/2024 15:20

How do you know she wants to leave her husband, perhaps she wants some money from you? The nephew, might just be a way of offloading his costs on the you.

Notchangingnameagain · 15/12/2024 15:00

I’ve read your update. Your sister is even more awful than I originally thought.

Please don’t give her any of your winnings.

ohyesido · 15/12/2024 14:21

This sounds like Reddit bullshit.

NobleWashedLinen · 15/12/2024 14:17

Half! Bloody hell that's a cheeky ask.
I think I would happily give 10% of any lottery win to my sister.
I would also do what I could to help her leave her husband if she needed to.
When she was "helping" you escape your partner she profited from you significantly. I don't think you are much beholden from that.

You certainly do not owe her half your winnings. There may be things you can do to help but she needs to get her ducks in a row - she will eventually get half the marital assets and will end up a lot richer than you once she has got through the unpleasant process of divorce.

Middleagedspreadisreal · 15/12/2024 14:06

Do not give her a penny. Do not let her blackmail you. Do not let her make you feel guilty.
Do spend YOUR winnings on you and you alone.

ohime · 15/12/2024 14:04

Erm, re the nephew coming to live with you, the family members I mentioned in my previous post tried that on with me, except it was too much even for me and I said no. I could see it coming a mile off that we'd soon be 'co-tenants' and it would be impossible to get them out, and then they'd manage somehow to get me out. Again, OP, please don't do it. Your sister has lied and schemed to promote her own advantage without a thought for you, and she'd do it again in a heartbeat if she saw some advantage for herself. It's a good bet that if she's asking you for anything, it won't work out well for you.