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For not wanting to share my lottery winnings with my sister after she let me move in with her?

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SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

OP posts:
ThisIsSockward · 13/12/2024 15:30

Everyone in your family is apparently nuts. Keep every bit of your winnings. Your sister should have saved the money you gave her for the privilege of sleeping in your own van on her property.

Delphiniumandlupins · 13/12/2024 15:29

Your sister can ask her partner to move out. It sounds like she is unhappy rather than being abused, as you were. Your father and cousins can help her if they are so concerned. She 'helped' you but not at any great inconvenience and actually benefited financially.

If you give in to this blackmail from her there is absolutely no guarantee that she won't pull a similar stunt every time she wants something from you. For example in 6 months time she needs more money for rent, or something for the children, or a new washing machine, etc. I'm sure she will quickly realise that you are very helpful in her children's lives - she's going to want more babysitting when she's a single parent. So be firm about what you can offer and don't be bullied.r

Downtherivers · 13/12/2024 15:28

Maray1967 · 13/12/2024 14:26

But she didn’t help you! She charged you £375 a month to park on her drive and use the shower. What on earth?!!

I’d offer to return the favour. She can live in your van on your drive for £375.

And unfortunately you’ve had to learn a lesson the hard way - don’t tell relatives about your finances.

This! And make her do all your cleaning!

TammyJones · 13/12/2024 15:28

Please OP
Say NO
your sister has treated you have crap.
When I was in your sister's position I helped out a relative after they lost everything - family/ house etc/ job.
They lived in the house my house with heating.
Pay me 10 percent of benefits, helped around the house
Did this cos it was the right thing to do.
They stayed 4 years.
In that time they got a job, got a flat, got a new girlfriend, got promoted and now earn a fantastic living and lead people.
Couldn't be more proud and if they won the lottery I would be dancing for joy from the roof tops for them.
See the difference ?
Buy your flat
Decorate it to a high standard and be PROUD of how far you've come
Then get some therapy for boundaries/self esteem / FOG.
you're doing brilliant and you deserve to have this and be happy.
Ignore your family / and golden child sister.

JudgeJ · 13/12/2024 15:28

Bigcat25 · 13/12/2024 15:25

Tell her you'll let her sleep on your sofa for $375 a month, plus all cleaning and driving around. That is the equivalent of what she did for you. Let her realize how crap what she gave you was.

The OP also needs to make the rest of their family know the terms of her sister's 'generosity' as I doubt the sister has told the whole story.

Ilovecakey · 13/12/2024 15:27

Tell her to fuck off! How could she have treated you like that making you live in the garage and charging you on top of it tell her to get fucked!

VisitationRights · 13/12/2024 15:27

Agree with offering her the chance to rent your van for £400/month.

Pippa246 · 13/12/2024 15:27

TLDR

Bigcat25 · 13/12/2024 15:25

Tell her you'll let her sleep on your sofa for $375 a month, plus all cleaning and driving around. That is the equivalent of what she did for you. Let her realize how crap what she gave you was.

tachetastic · 13/12/2024 15:23

SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

Tell her she can sleep in your van on the same terms she offered you.

Do these cousins etc. know the outrageous deal she imposed on you when you were at your lowest? They probably think it was all for free.

LushLemonTart · 13/12/2024 15:23

CautiousLurker01 · 13/12/2024 15:19

This is why my DH and I have always said that if we won we’d never tell a living soul. Not even our children. We’d make sure everyone we loved was completely secure, but we’d never tell them how/why or how much.

I'd tell dcs. But op hasn't even won a life changing amount. Just enough to get a flat. Not even buy it outright.

Your dsis is manipulative @SarahJP95 . Think back and you'll see she's always been like this. It's absolutely disgusting how you were treated regarding the van in her garage.

HeChokedOnAChorizo · 13/12/2024 15:23

Please buy your flat, your sister didnt help you, she took advantage. Tell your family who are interfering that they can bank roll her as all your money is used up buying your flat.

Starlight7080 · 13/12/2024 15:23

She is being unreasonable.
He isn't abusive. She can save and plan better and move . Or ask him to move out.
You paid your way plus it sounds like you also helped them alot.
And she left you in an abusive situation for 3 months .
A good sister would not do that.
I wouldnt give her any money . Especially since she has tried to get other family members to be aggressive toward you.
Just buy the flat and do it up and enjoy having a home that's all yours.

BeAzureAnt · 13/12/2024 15:21

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 13/12/2024 14:32

As a pp said, offer her a parking space for an extortionate rate.

She exploited you terribly when you were at your most vulnerable. You owe her nothing.

Absolutely. I cannot believe she did this to her own sister.

rockingbird · 13/12/2024 15:21

She didn't help you, she made money out of you living in your own vehicle in her garage!! You didn't Move In.. you became a good source of extra cash and free childcare. Honestly words fail me, that was definitely not helping you. You also had to stay with your ex an extra three months in order to meet her ridiculous demands. You owe her nothing, harsh as that may seem.

5iveleafclovers · 13/12/2024 15:20

She didn't even give you a couch to sleep on. Tell your family she charged you money to sleep in her garage. I can bet my life she hasn't told anyone she took money from you when you fled an abusive relationship, nobody would admit to being so heartless so tell them.

Onceuponatime9 · 13/12/2024 15:20

YANBU

CautiousLurker01 · 13/12/2024 15:19

This is why my DH and I have always said that if we won we’d never tell a living soul. Not even our children. We’d make sure everyone we loved was completely secure, but we’d never tell them how/why or how much.

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 13/12/2024 15:19

TheSilkWorm · 13/12/2024 14:24

Offer her a van in the garage for £375 a month 🤷🏼‍♀️
Is she offering to repay the money? If so, is she trustworthy? what's the reason she can't afford to move out herself?

This. £375 for a van in a garage? Plus unpaid childcare, pet-sitting etc?

wow. That’s horrible.

user6476897654 · 13/12/2024 15:18

Absolutely not.
although she let you stay, you paid fairly handsomely for a parking space as well as being childcare/gardener etc.
If you’d won millions, fair enough, but you need to set your own life on track first before thinking of helping others.
It’s not your fault that she’s chosen to have a large family in an unstable relationship.
I’m also sorry you lost your mum so young, ask your dad why he isnt helping her out, it’s more his responsibility than yours!

mummytrex · 13/12/2024 15:17

Yanbu. Her "help" when you were vulnerable and needed support was non existent! She knowingly left you in a precarious situation for months and then charged you rent when you were not even living in her home and you became ill! Her treatment of you was callous and it is baffling that she actually thinks she helped you.

Ignore your father/ other family. Where where they when you needed help? Where were their pleas to her when you were in danger but were forced to stay for another 3 months.

Then we get to the current situation. She isn't in danger. She is entitled. Keep your money and look after yourself as no one else is looking out for you. YANBU!

Parratha · 13/12/2024 15:17

It sounds like you were almost a servant when you were allowed to park your van in her garage. She sounds totally unreasonable.

Keep your money to yourself and don't think anything more of it.

Nc92982822 · 13/12/2024 15:16

Dear god, imagine charging your own immediate family member in a desperate situation £400 a month to live in their own van as well as expecting free babysitting, petsitting and lifts.

Yanbu OP. If you'd won millions and were sitting on wads of spare cash then maybe, but not when you’ve only got enough to get yourself on your feet after a few tough years. She was happy to leave you in an abusive situation for months longer than necessary so that she could profit off of you. She’s made her own bed here, let her lie in it.

Bringbackspring · 13/12/2024 15:15

Your sister knew you were in an abusive relationship and instead of immediately helping you leave she put you in a situation where you needed to wait several months until you could move out! She may have helped you out, but in the way that involved giving you the least amount of help possible and taking money from you for it. If my sister was desperate or told me she needed to leave an abusive partner I'd move her in that same day, whether I had the room or not. Yes I would ask for a bit toward the bills once she was back in work. But I definitely wouldn't charge her rent to live in a cold van on my driveway!

You deserve every penny of your winnings. You have absolutely no reason to feel guilty about keeping it all. And what right do your father and cousins think they have to call you selfish when they didn't bat an eyelid at your sister charging you for the privilege of catching pneumonia while living on her driveway! If your sister really cared about you, she'd just be thrilled you could finally get back on your feet.

MJconfessions · 13/12/2024 15:14

Sorry @SarahJP95 but it seems like everyone in your life is toxic.

Your sister is just using you for money. She asked you for money when you had nothing and was happy for you to continue getting battered unless you paid up.

Now she wants you to be grateful and buy her a house…just using you for money again.

lottery wins bring out the worst in people - you shouldn’t have told anyone.

i want you to create a fake story…something like to pay your sister’s rent demands and escape your ex you got into a lot of debt so all of your lottery money is going on repaying debt to be able to buy the house.