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For not wanting to share my lottery winnings with my sister after she let me move in with her?

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SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

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Manara · 14/12/2024 14:02

5iveleafclovers · 14/12/2024 13:00

Your update honestly doesn't paint your sister in a better light. She thought you were lying about being in an abusive relationship, she admitted to scamming you and now wants to offload her son onto you. Did she mention giving you expenses to cover her son living with you?

Exactly this. OP, please don’t be taken in by her. At the first hint of bad behaviour from nephew, send him home.

I suspect she and kids will all try and move in by stealth.

Oodydoody · 14/12/2024 13:56

I wouldn't trust her as far as I would throw her.
She's a liar that ripped off her own sister.
Absolutely despicable behaviour.

Be very careful OP.
You are vulnerable and need to protect yourself.....from your own family.

Decent people do not rip off family.

Do not have your nephew to stay.
That is her just using you again.
Don't do it.

BraOffPjsOn · 14/12/2024 13:55

Oh OP - prioritise getting and setting up your flat. You deserve it and have waited so long to get settled.
If your sister wants to get out of her marriage then that’s for her to sort and not take from you. You’ll regret it if you lose the opportunity of somewhere secure to live that’s yours.

Do you definitely think she wants to leave her husband or is just after some of the money?

Terrribletwos · 14/12/2024 13:54

@SarahJP95 really your update just makes your sister sound even more manipulative than before. To not believe that you were in an abusive relationship, that just sounds like a crock of shit. She should, at the very least, have given you the benefit of her doubt and supported you. But she didn't do that. She made you wait a further 3 months and then let you stay on her property, charged you nearly £400 a month with conditions. Now, your cousins and father are involved. Why are they involved and what did they do to help? You didn't say.

I would be taking a massive step back, your family have treated you appallingly. And, no i would not, under any circumstances, be taking the nephew in.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 14/12/2024 13:48

I would be highly suspicious of anything your sister says.
She squeezed money out of you, whilst keeping you in a damp garage, and made you do unpaid labour for her. A garage so damp that you ended up in hospital with pneumonia.
She now claims she thought you were lying about the abuse. How convenient for her.
You are finally about to get your own place and she wants to move in her troublesome teenage son?
Other family members are pressing you to agree to this. WHY? Why do they want you to give up the chance of your own one bedroom flat and pay more money to her. A person who has already admitted that she scammed you.
She has a home, and its not a damp garage. She can make her own savings. She can parent her own child.

Please say no. They won't like it but neither will you like giving up the life chances you were planning for no particular reason other than that they want you to.
Please get some RL help/advice to think about why you are being abused by them. And what you can do about it.
If they'd won the lottery, they would never give you the deposit for your flat.
Please protect yourself and act in your own best interest and don't fall for this blackmail.

Hocuspoc · 14/12/2024 13:40

In case my previous post is too long here is a summary - you are being set up for exchanging your money against pressing false charges for abuse in the near future.

AlmostFingDone · 14/12/2024 13:39

OP honestly your sister sounds even worse after your update.

Stop worrying about her. I mean it. She didn’t worry about you. You do not owe her.

If wider family are pressuring you to help her, tell them they should act first.

Hocuspoc · 14/12/2024 13:36

Here is a thought for you. Since your sister thinks family abuse is some sort of joke and manipulation tool (this is a fact because she assumed you were lying about abuse to gain advantage and she is now lying to gain advantage), it is not impossible she will set you up so your nephew accuses you for something along the lines of abuse while living under your roof (she is very jealous of your lottery gain, I mean people do horrible things when they are jealous of someone's happiness).
She is not your friend and will never be one again.
This particular request for you to live with a teenager and her - the mum - living separately is so odd tht I personally find it hard to believe it's true (as mentioned above).

You should have kept your good news a secret (generally good advice for future reference).

BogusHocusPocus · 14/12/2024 13:33

Just tell her "I'm sorry but I have changed my mind and I'm not going to change it back. Nephew can't move in because I want to get established here on my own for a while first. I'm excited to finally have my own place after a very difficult few years, I have changed my mind."

You don't need to tell her more than this.

Please don't do it.

BogusHocusPocus · 14/12/2024 13:28

OP, please don't take your nephew in, however close you have been to him.

Your sister kept the money you were giving her to spend on herself. It's not as though you owe her a favour. But more than this...

Moving into your own place should be a time of great happiness and freedom for you. It should be time to settle in and enjoy your own time and space and freedom. It should be time to enjoy decorating and furnishing it, and making it your own.

Don't spoil a happy time by taking in someone else's teenage kid.

Ja428 · 14/12/2024 13:21

Ja428 · 14/12/2024 13:20

She is a monster. She let you live in a damp van when you could have slept on the living room floor.

Don’t give her a penny. If she doesn’t want to speak to you, that’s her problem. Just crack on with your own life. Keep all your money, buy and sort your flat.

And just to add, why aren’t your dad and cousins helping her? If they are pissed with you, then that also is their problem

ThatCoralShark · 14/12/2024 13:20

Wow, what an awful woman, taking from you to spend on herself, lying to you. Not believing you on abuse, going after your money and now wanting her kid to come live with you. What’s actually wrong with her. Do you know or understand, as that’s one warped person.

Ja428 · 14/12/2024 13:20

She is a monster. She let you live in a damp van when you could have slept on the living room floor.

Don’t give her a penny. If she doesn’t want to speak to you, that’s her problem. Just crack on with your own life. Keep all your money, buy and sort your flat.

EauNeu · 14/12/2024 13:20

She is frantically backpedaling and minimizing her actions now and trying to work this to her advantage.

Really advise you reconsider taking in her teenager. She will be round your house wherever she wants. It is hard hard work having a teenager under your roof ...I wouldn't do this

Mostlyoblivious · 14/12/2024 13:18

Please don’t take blame for not opening up to her - you have to feel safe with the person to do so and clearly your sister never tried to make you feel that way.

I would also be very wary of taking your nephew in - start with some weekends and see: you are still gathering yourself after your trauma and she is dumping on you from a great height.

Your sister has told you that she financially abused you, that she is a liar and that she chose to believe the behaviour of a person who had fleetingly been in your life over you, her own sister. She sounds incredibly manipulative.

Your sister is not a safe person for you, I’m really sorry.

A massive well done to you for getting yourself your own flat - you are an impressive woman

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LushLemonTart · 14/12/2024 13:17

She sounds worse now I agree.

asthecrowdwaschantingmore · 14/12/2024 13:14

5iveleafclovers · 14/12/2024 13:00

Your update honestly doesn't paint your sister in a better light. She thought you were lying about being in an abusive relationship, she admitted to scamming you and now wants to offload her son onto you. Did she mention giving you expenses to cover her son living with you?

Exactly how I read it.

OP, get therapy without your sister in the room and work through why you've let her justify her shitty treatment of you and you're still falling all over yourself to help her knowing this.

missod · 14/12/2024 13:11

Blimey, she sounds even worse now.

WildCats24 · 14/12/2024 13:10

She completely took advantage of you when you needed her support the most. Ouch.

5iveleafclovers · 14/12/2024 13:00

Your update honestly doesn't paint your sister in a better light. She thought you were lying about being in an abusive relationship, she admitted to scamming you and now wants to offload her son onto you. Did she mention giving you expenses to cover her son living with you?

SarahJP95 · 14/12/2024 12:48

UPDATE:

Hi everyone, I wanted to edit my original post but can't seem to so I'm hoping that everyone can see this new post.

I just wanted to start by saying thank you so much to everyone who replied, I have read each and every post and wish I could reply to them all but I was honestly overwhelmed by how many people answered, I was sat in tears reading through them all last night. To have literally hundreds of people tell me I'm not in the wrong and that that they support me and everything I've been through has been so incredibly cathartic and has honestly really opened my eyes.

I did go to see my sister this morning and finally confronted her about everything, I have you all to thank for that as I would never have been brave enough to do it otherwise. It started as an argument but we quickly calmed down and just talked it all through, I'll bullet point the main things we discussed to try to keep this post short.

  1. It turns out that my sister thought I had been lying about my abusive ex. She told me that she had really liked him and just couldn't believe that he would have ever even raised his voice to me, I explained that he was a completely different person when we were around other people and it hadn't gotten really bad until the last year of our relationship. She was understandably very upset and apologised profusely, said she thought I had just gotten bored of him and couldn't be bothered to pay to rent a room so that's why I had asked to move in with her. I keep things very close to my chest so I should have talked to her about it properly right from the start and we've agreed to sit down soon and talk it through and see if I can find a therapist I can talk to as well.
  2. Her husband didn't know how much I was paying in rent. This was the worst revelation to be honest, it's going to take a while to get past this even though I can see her reasoning. She's been a stay at home mum for a long time and has really struggled with not having any money to spend on herself, everything her husband gives her goes directly into the food shop or clothes for the kids and they have a very tight budget. When she first approached him about me moving my van into their garage he suggested the chores/childsitting/petsitting plus £150 a month to cover the electricity and other bills which I think would have been very reasonable but she kept the rest for herself and never told him how much I was giving her a month. Again I wish I had just had a discussion about it with him but I'm a very shy person and don't like confrontation at the best of times. I also told her that if she had just been honest with me right from the start we could have worked something out since I would have always helped her if she had just asked.
  3. She didn't know how much money I had won. Again I should have just been honest, I actually wish I had never told anyone like everyone here has been saying but I know my family would have been suspicious if I had just suddenly bought a flat out of nowhere. I actually had quite a lot already saved up from my new job and selling my van, more than half of the deposit but I hadn't told her that so she assumed I had won enough for a full deposit. I explained to her that although it was a lot of money (for me at least) it was only enough for half of the deposit and I was still going to have to get a 40 year mortgage.
  4. Her marriage is in a worse state than I originally thought. I feel awful about this one and wish she had told me sooner, her and her husband have apparently been on the rocks for the last 5 years or so and thought having another baby would help but it's just made them much worse off financially. I said while I can't help her financially at the moment I will help out in any way I can especially if she does decide to leave him. For the moment we have agreed that my oldest nephew (who's 15) is going to come and stay with me for a while to help ease the tension in the house as he has been the cause of a lot of family arguments lately, I have always been very close with him and it'll be good for him to get away from that environment for a while until everything settles down.

That's about it for now, I want to thank everyone again so much for giving me the courage to finally straighten this all out. ❤

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SaMMaxis170 · 14/12/2024 08:22

personally id keep any lotto wins secret

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