Page 17 | To be annoyed at being told to be considerate of disabled people

DefendingPan · 2024-12-13T13:48:25+00:00

This sign was in the disabled toilet in a restaurant (which is also the only baby change in the restaurant). What’s the point of this sign? What might parents be doing that they will stop after reading this?

WinterBones · 13/12/2024 19:34

i mean, my local shopping center specifically had a couple of cubicles you could get your pushchair in with you.. but even in ones that didn't, i never ever had an issue peeing and nor have i heard of someone taking a small child from a toilet with mom inside the cubicle.

The vast majority of women actually helped.. like "I won't touch but i'll stand here and keep an eye while you're in the cubicle" kind of thing if i couldn't do the 'last cubicle' thing.

Sirzy · 13/12/2024 19:34

WinterBird24 · 13/12/2024 19:32

Tell that to Jamie Bulgers mum.

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She wasn’t in the toilets!

SaagAloopa · 13/12/2024 19:34

Sirzy · 13/12/2024 19:30

So it’s multiple children that some is managing to stick under their arms in a very busy place then?

ye sounds a very realistic risk 🙄

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They wouldn't have to take multiple children just one ..

SaagAloopa · 13/12/2024 19:33

Threeoldladies · 13/12/2024 18:39

You do know invisible disabilities exist right? Most disabilities aren't visible. Your post is so offensive and - absurd coming that it is from a disabled person - ableist.

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It was so upsetting to read. Thanks x

SavingTheBestTillLast · 13/12/2024 19:33

KnopkaPixie · 13/12/2024 19:20

Where was this? Sweden? Norway? Japan?

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@RubyWinehouse
Bluewater ( SE England ) had this for a while when it first opened
John Lewis in Bluewater as well. Plus tables to sit at so you could do your makeup

WinterBird24 · 13/12/2024 19:32

Sirzy · 13/12/2024 19:30

So it’s multiple children that some is managing to stick under their arms in a very busy place then?

ye sounds a very realistic risk 🙄

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Tell that to Jamie Bulgers mum.

WinterBones · 13/12/2024 19:31

SaagAloopa · 13/12/2024 19:30

Until they are quiet.. then wtf do you do

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leave the cubicle door partially open if the pushchair won't fit in, so you can keep an eye on them in the few moment it takes to pee.

TigerRag · 13/12/2024 19:30

WinterBird24 · 13/12/2024 19:29

I don’t think it’s an unreasonable use of the facilities when you have multiple children, no.

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Is there any reason why you and other parents aren't lobbying for parent and child toilets?

Sirzy · 13/12/2024 19:30

WinterBird24 · 13/12/2024 19:29

I don’t think it’s an unreasonable use of the facilities when you have multiple children, no.

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So it’s multiple children that some is managing to stick under their arms in a very busy place then?

ye sounds a very realistic risk 🙄

SaagAloopa · 13/12/2024 19:30

Sirzy · 13/12/2024 19:19

Sing songs with them! Get them doing a nursery rhyme or whatever while you’re in there so you know they are fine.

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Until they are quiet.. then wtf do you do

WinterBones · 13/12/2024 19:30

i tell you what you do. you wait for the cubicle at the furthest reach of the public bathroom, you open the door, and you pull your pushchair in with you as far as you can while you pee.

Any woman with half a brain will know its a mom trying to pee and not walk down and look in the loo to see what you're doing.

WinterBird24 · 13/12/2024 19:29

Sirzy · 13/12/2024 19:28

And I will continue to think people like you are selfish.

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Oh what a shame. We were fostering such a special friendship

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SaagAloopa · 13/12/2024 19:29

Lyannaa · 13/12/2024 17:32

Some people do all sorts in these kinds of spaces, too - call people, put make up on.

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Tell me about it. They use it like a private office!

WinterBird24 · 13/12/2024 19:29

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I don’t think it’s an unreasonable use of the facilities when you have multiple children, no.

Sirzy · 13/12/2024 19:28

WinterBird24 · 13/12/2024 19:26

Thanks - I will continue to provide the level of safeguarding I think is appropriate as a parent to my small kids.

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And I will continue to think people like you are selfish.

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WinterBird24 · 13/12/2024 19:26

Sirzy · 13/12/2024 19:25

Sorry but that’s rubbish. They are perfectly safe stood directly out the door in communication with you all the time.

but you crack on and let your fears mean a disabled person shits themselves due to lack of toilets

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Thanks - I will continue to provide the level of safeguarding I think is appropriate as a parent to my small kids.

Sirzy · 13/12/2024 19:26

WinterBird24 · 13/12/2024 19:25

it’s all very well separate facilities being ideal but not every business can accommodate that and very few businesses have the demand to justify it. IME the disabled loo is mostly left vacant. It must be vanishingly rare that there’s a baby that needs changing and a disabled person also busting.

Strangely it’s generally only those without disabilities who experiences these always empty facilities!

DetestTheClockChange · 13/12/2024 19:26

WinterBird24 · 13/12/2024 19:16

I wonder if it’s parents taking their toilet trained kids in the loo rather than a baby being changed. I admit I do this sometimes, when I have two kids with me, but strictly could use the normal loos - I just prefer to have eyes on the kids when it’s busy (like a shopping centre etc) and not have the oldest one outside of the cubicle I’m in.

You are V V V V V V V V unreasonable.

I'll let my dad piss himself then, shall I?

Sirzy · 13/12/2024 19:25

WinterBird24 · 13/12/2024 19:22

I do and will use separate loos when it’s appropriate. Like the gym, local leisure centre that sort of thing. Just in very busy public spaces I want eyes on them. No use them singing as they’re being snatched under someone’s arm and I’m mid-stream.

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Sorry but that’s rubbish. They are perfectly safe stood directly out the door in communication with you all the time.

but you crack on and let your fears mean a disabled person shits themselves due to lack of toilets

WinterBird24 · 13/12/2024 19:25

it’s all very well separate facilities being ideal but not every business can accommodate that and very few businesses have the demand to justify it. IME the disabled loo is mostly left vacant. It must be vanishingly rare that there’s a baby that needs changing and a disabled person also busting.

Sirzy · 13/12/2024 19:24

KnopkaPixie · 13/12/2024 19:20

Where was this? Sweden? Norway? Japan?

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It was a thing in the U.K. 15 years ago

WinterBird24 · 13/12/2024 19:22

Sirzy · 13/12/2024 19:19

Sing songs with them! Get them doing a nursery rhyme or whatever while you’re in there so you know they are fine.

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I do and will use separate loos when it’s appropriate. Like the gym, local leisure centre that sort of thing. Just in very busy public spaces I want eyes on them. No use them singing as they’re being snatched under someone’s arm and I’m mid-stream.

KnopkaPixie · 13/12/2024 19:20

RubyWinehouse · 13/12/2024 19:19

I remember in one shopping centre where I used to live they had a parent/baby room where there was seating to sit whilst feeding baby, and a couple of cubicles that had a loo, a kiddies size loo, potty, hand basin and a changing table, it was a great idea. There was also in the main area, bottle warmers and in the cubicles free spare nappies in dispensers and baby wipes in case you didn't have any of your own.

Where was this? Sweden? Norway? Japan?