To be annoyed at being told to be considerate of disabled people

However
An accessible bathroom is a space provided which is a larger space, has grab rails, raised toilet etc. It has everything in it so that a disabled person can use it In accordance with the Equalities Act.
Its there so that disabled people have somewhere to use but it’s not exclusively for them

The reason for this is because buildings need a certain number of conveniences to accommodate a predicted number of users. That number is an overall number and WC provision is an overall figure based on total usage. Then Brocken down into male, female, accessible and mixed.

As such There is currently no law that prevents anyone using an accessible bathroom.
So mothers with kids or whoever have the right to the space.

Consideration for everyone is needed.

The audacity of some people. One day it may blow up in their faces if they mess with/challenge someone aggressive

I agree but due to cost and a lack of understanding of the number of people who need an accessible loo they don't bother. Plus to rub salt into the wound the changing table in the accessible loo offen isn't accessible!!!

As a healthy looking 20 something with a colostomy bag I can't begin to describe the number of times disabled people have given me grief coming out of a disabled toilet. I imagine a vocal disabled person has complained to management over one incident and they put up the sign

Obviously but it shows how shitty "standard" design is. I can use some standard loos easily they could easily be made more inclusive

But it shouldn’t be the only option. It should be there for those with disabilities who need it (actually it should ideally be a full changing places toilet) but it shouldn’t be the only one and it should only be for those who need it.

ffs, if you have a disability that makes moving around in a normal cubicle difficult, then you're perfectly entitled to use the accessible bathroom.

jfc.

That makes it worse not better… her child was abducted from her under nose. With a physical barrier and no line of sight surely the risk is greater.

Or have a disability that means moving around can be tricky

I am just pointing out how stupid to have baby changing in the disabled toilet

It's actually really handy for those of us who are disabled and have a baby..

However I have had to wait ages before whilst parents have taken all 3 of their kids in to the toilet

I see this happen fairly often. It makes it easier for Mum to keep all kids together and get them all toileted without having to wait for cubicles within the regular Ladies loo.

Having a disabled adult daughter whose pad I have to change, it makes life
so much harder for the rest of us who have to use the accessible toilet through necessity - not just for a bit of convenience.

I imagine that's the sort of thing the notice is about.

just to be clear here.

The provision of accessible bathrooms is a law so that disabled people aren't at a disadvantage.

When there is a public bathroom with 2-3 cubicles, and 1 accessible bathroom, an able bodied person who does not NEED the accessible bathroom to use the toilet, is using a facility that is not there for them. You are putting the disabled person back at a disadvantage because they don't have the option of using one of the other 2-3 cubicles.

I don't understand why that is so hard to grasp.

It's when I read threads like this it makes me thankful I am friends with people who take a realistic approach to life and parenting and are considerate of others less fortunate than themselves.

I am sad there are so many selfish arseholes in the world.

Oh. I've only been on this site for a few weeks as an effort to keep my English language skills going, since I left the UK 24 years ago. Where I live, Corsica, you're very lucky to find a disabled toilet or baby change facilities at all. I'm such a country mouse.

Standard cubicle sizes aren’t big enough
They are for single person use ( to maximise number ) and even then some are really small and not suitable especially if you’re larger than average or pregnant.

Yes just so happens Im fond of both of mine. I guess otherwise you have to pick a favourite.

What would mum do.
Not all kids would say anything. We don't know the ages.
Every second counts.
I just have one kid and they come in with me in whatever loo I use but the standard loos which I use on a good day could be tricky with 2 kids.

What do you do when you cannot physically get a normal sized pram/buggy into the toilets in the first place (due to heavy doors, tight corners, extremely narrow corridors, etc)?

Unfortunately the government doesn't care about toilets.
They are happy to have:

• tiny cubicles with huge queues outside the ladies
• shared accessible toilets with baby change facilities
• baby changing facilities without actual toilets (so that parents and older siblings cannot have a wee)
• baby changing facilities only in the ladies (because male parents don't exist 🙄)

Because it’s really not such a big issue, I’ve probably visited a busy shopping centre with both my kids, on my own (ie no DH) about a dozen times - it’s normally to go to Clark’s, probably only needed a pee twice of those dozen times.

Over the course of now 5 years. At other venues I feel comfortable with my eldest in his own cubicle and me with the youngest. Plus my eldest is now, well older, and so the risk is getting smaller. I have more important issues in life than a situation I’ve described that’s happened once or twice….

Easier just to nick the ones provided for others, innit. Same with wheelchair spaces.

It only affects them for a short while so they’re not bothered enough to campaign. Who cares that disabled people campaigned for years? They’ve had a baby and that’s more important.

Because they would rather take advantage of the few facilties disabled people have. Who care if it makes their lives harder.

if they aren't in the pushchair you should be able to get them in the cubicle with you

They exist
They are called accessible toilets

also for @WinterBird24

And the others would stay silent? And none of the people in such a busy environment would notice?

Who said the kids are in a pushchair...