To feel under pressure to get Botox or similar things

Same here. I’m 63 I have forehead lines, my eyelids can be a bit droopy, my jawline a bit soft but my face itself is quite unlined. I don’t think I look bad.

I do understand how you feel. I think if I was surrounded by people getting Botox/fillers/extensive eyebrow stuff I would feel under pressure or scruffy in comparison. I know there’s a trend for having work younger and younger but 30 is still very young for this kind of stuff and once you start that’s probably it, you’re on a treadmill.

There's a 34yr old on Instagram called Bambidoesbeauty who hasn't had any work done and she looks amazing

I mean at 34, most people should look amazing without "work", it's hardly old.

Yes that’s in. These companies have realised there is a fortune to be made with life long customers. No matter how much you spend, you will keep ageing and so will keep buying.

I am on a Facebook page for a skin product and it breaks my heart to see young women on there obsessing about each tiny sign of ageing and asking how to eliminate it.

Ageing is not easy, and I can’t imagine how hard young women of today are going to find it when they inevitably do start to age, and they find the tens of thousands of pounds and dozens of products they have used have not stopped that. They are already primed to scrutinize their faces and be in battle against their face. They are going to find the rapid ageing of mid 40s onwards really tough.

Me too. At 45 feel no pressure. People around me who have done it look like a mix of chipmunks and ducks and I wouldn't do it even if it was free.

It really does look strange. It's common for humans to make themselves look strange for fashion. History is littered with examples! Foot binding, neck rings, lead makeup, massive wigs with boats in them, no eyebrows. It's a thing humans do, so there's no reason to feel badly about it. But it does look strange putting weird gel under the skin of your face, or turning your forehead off. Of course it does.

34??? It's hardly old!
I'm 57. Haven't had a thing done.
Sometimes I feel a little pressure but tbh, I have a good bone structure and my face still looks ok.

OP uttered the trigger word for the worst kind of sneering you see on MN.

Well said @DappledThings
I'm no oil painting and I don't think that fillers or botox are going to make much improvement to the way I look.

I look after my skin and still get told that I look younger than my years (66).

I actually find a unique kind of arrogance in some of the au natural types - almost a bit like I’m a natural beauty and those who get stuff done aren’t.
I don't think I'm a natural beauty at all. I'm just happy with looking my age and don't think aging is unattractive.

I know very few women with any of that stuff.

I admittedly am one of those people who gets fillers, botox & skin boosters but can’t say I ever ever look at someone & wonder why they haven’t had botox or whatever. Unless you actually want to do it for yourself don’t be pressured, I don’t regret having filler but I will say so many people have it done now there are a lot of very bad jobs done & you can tell a mile off when a woman has had something done. So don’t sit there & feel down about yourself cos I promise you, even people who get all those things done will still be sat there feeling bad about themselves cos self love comes from within not what you look like.

Lol I'll let you know 😉

Or cat videos

Does anyone else feel a pressure to get Botox or expensive facials every month?

No. I won't see 60 again, and the only woman I know of my age who has had work done looks like her face is made of plastic.

Yes they were. They had mystique. You hardly ever saw them except in movie stills or carefully posed and lit publicity photos. They didn’t pretend to be normal and ordinary like today’s celebs do.

If you want a reason not to fall for the botox/filler/surgery etc pressures, watch Lindsey Lohan's new Christmas movie on Netflix.

In photographs she looks great, but in action her skin/face does strange things. For example sometimes when she smiles, crinkling her nose, she gets a strange crease down her face from her inner eye down to her nostrils. TBH, I had to google LL's age (38) as I thought she looked like a 50yo after plastic surgery!

When you are surrounded by women who use botox/fillers, you lose your perspective and could end up thinking everyone looks like that, which isn't true.

I find a fringe (bangs) hides a myriad of aging when it comes to being in your early 40s.

I have a slightly different take on this.

I'm 53 and been having botox and very occasional fillers for 5 years.

Why? I'm a lone parent with a high level job which I need to maintain until she is out of University (she's 15)

Women get judged, it doesn't matter what you do, we always get the brunt of every critic, so I do it to fly under the radar of male judges in a male dominated industry.

Do I wish I had started a little earlier on this? Yes, but not significantly, maybe early 40s to stop the onslaught of certain lines but 30s no way, too young.

I'm happy with what I have, I look natural and absolutely hate the big lips etc, would never have anything in my lips.

Right now you have more important things to spend money on and unless it's career or self confidence effecting I'd say don't do it at all.

It's an honour and a privilege to age. The majority of my friends have Botox and it's really obvious. Their faces just don't move.
I won't get it, I'm embracing my face

OP, I've PMed you a link to some excellent online workbooks you can work through to try and improve your self esteem. As you say, it's coming from within, it's not really about your appearance.

It might help to start getting angry at the beauty and fashion industry. How dare they tell us women we have something wrong with us for not looking a certain way that they are dictating! For daring to look normal!* *They exist not to help us but purely to convince as many of us as possible that we're ugly so we part with our cash in an attempt to fix what doesn't need fixing, to make them extremely rich See them for what they are and find your anger.

Starting Botox at 23 is just so disturbing I dont even know what to say. Bollocks I will be telling my 23 yr old DD " Each to her own".

I expect most celebs- possibly even Judi Dench- have had tweaks. What I object to is the notion that even ordinary people have to have it. In the past movie stars were a separate universe.

My 27 year old niece started Botox when she was 23! I thought she was nuts at the time, but she has very pale, thin skin and was starting to get fine lines. You’d absolutely never tell she has Botox, but she’s stopping lines before they become deep.

I’m very much a believer of each to their own.

I have a 90 minute facial every 4 weeks - mostly because it’s intensely relaxing, but also it really helps my skin look its best. I also have Botox every 9 months or so. Botox, in my opinion, is the single best thing you can do if frown lines are bothering you. It doesn’t matter how old you are, they either bother you or they don’t. No one should feel pressure either way.

People on here that are anti Botox spout a lot of nonsense. A good injector will do wonders for signs of ageing. Great if people like their lines, also great if people don’t.

Exactly this! When you're knocking on 70/80 do you want to look beautiful and full of the joy of a life well lived (Judi Dench) or like you're running scared from your own reflection (eg Leslie Ash - who is now in mid/late 60s)

There's such a skewed view on Mumsnet of Botox and fillers. Don't feel the pressure, do what you're comfortable with and what you can afford. At 30, that should pretty much mean close to nothing. Drink water, cleanse, tone and moisturise and eat well.

I'm 37 and recently had my first Botox and micro needling. I'll continue both and mostly, you would never know I had it. It's just to stop the rot setting in. I don't want to look old before my time and I was getting bothered by my forehead lines. I do it for me and if anyone wants to judge me, have at it, I don't want to be around people like that.

More people than you know have it and nobody knows or cares. A lot of people on here will tell you that they know because they're so superior but that's usually people who have gone too far.

There are many celebrities who've had minor tweaks and look fabulous for it. More than don't.

Stay away from fillers. They're dangerous.