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To think he's overly involved with his chaotic ex?

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Isitmeor18 · 12/12/2024 22:08

I was reluctant to post this as I'm aware I may come across badly but I'm interested in hearing somebody else's perspective.

I'm a few months in with a new man who seems to be overly involved with his ex and her chaotic life.

They have 1 DS together age 10 but they haven't been an item since the little boy was under a year old, he says.

He was given sole custody 2 years ago because she has substance abuse issues and mental health problems, all of that is true, but he always seems to be involving himself in her drama.

She has made endless false allegations against him (and loads of other people) whilst she was unwell so you'd think he'd have the sense to keep his distance somewhat.

She has recently being taken to court by social services to remove another child from her care (different dad) and somehow the bloke I'm seeing has managed to insert himself into that aswell. Phonecalls back and forth with social services. On the phone to her friends about it. It's all I've heard about for the past 2 days.

He was ringing his ex about it all yesterday and now he has text me tonight at 9.30pm saying she has called him up on the phone crying about it and saying she can't breath.

He's saying he's worried she's going to kill herself. I just told him to phone in a welfare check then.

But I'm thinking.. why are you telling me all of this? Why is she calling you anyway? Why are you so involved?

It all feels a bit weird and codependant to me and I'm not sure I want anything to do with all of this. I have children of my own.

Am I being unreasonably harsh here? What would you think of this?

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Unexpectedlysinglemum · 13/12/2024 16:32

Isitmeor18 · 12/12/2024 22:59

Thank you all. You've confirmed my gut feeling, he isn't in the right place for a relationship right now.

He's trying. Bless him.

I think I will have a chat with him tomorrow and suggest we cool things off for now so he can concentrate on supporting his DS, and his DS mum if that's what he thinks he should do.

I'm going to have to word things better than I have on here 🤦🏼‍♀️

Old me would have been all over him trying to help him and support him. He can find one of those women to date. You don't have time for that.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 13/12/2024 16:30

You have boundaries
He doesn't

He is overly empathetic with a savior complex. Probably a nice guy but do you want this life?

sparkellie · 13/12/2024 14:29

I don't think you are being unreasonable. But I don't think he is either. This is the mother and sibling of his child and I wouldn't want to be involved with anyone who could ignore that. However I definitely wouldn't be able to tolerate the situation if I was you, and I think you're right to step away for the time being. You have to prioritise your children and this won't be good for them. He should also be ble to give all his attention to making a stable life for his child, and a relationship would detract from that at the moment.

TheSilkWorm · 13/12/2024 14:28

He's waaaaay too involved. Definitely move on from this one.

Moveoverdarlin · 13/12/2024 14:26

I would run as fast as my little legs would carry me from this shit show.

Moveoverdarlin · 13/12/2024 14:24

Isitmeor18 · 12/12/2024 22:35

I've just read that back and think I sound like an absolute arsehole now 😔

You really don’t. But personally I could not and would not deal with this. This is supposed to be the fun bit. I get a bit prickly at the mere mention of ex partners in the early days of a relationship so this is far too much. I’d be inclined to say ‘Sorry, but this is all a bit too Jeremy Kyle for me. I wish you and your ex all the best.’

Isitmeor18 · 13/12/2024 14:18

Yep that thought crossed my mind too. I would end up a target myself at some point no doubt about that.

He's still going on about her today. I'm definitely done.

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Whowhatwhere21 · 13/12/2024 08:31

The allegations alone would be enough for me to step away. If she's happy to make false allegations about her child's dad, the one who is actually looking after the child and preventing him from going into care, then she will have no issues making allegations against you when she decides she's unhappy with you being on the scene.

mjcausingthis · 13/12/2024 08:31

Hi op. I don't yabu but I do think this is a lot of drama to get involved in. I would walk away personally, it'll only get worse and you'll always have someone else's shit to deal with. While I do feel really sorry for the ex ultimately it sounds like she is in a huge mess and you're just going to get dragged into it.

VeryVeryCross · 13/12/2024 08:27

You're not an arsehole but you need to put yourself and your own kids first. You don't need to bring all this drama into their lives.

Waterboatlass · 13/12/2024 08:23

I would probably walk away. You're definitely not an arsehole and he's doubtless doing what he thinks is best to help keep two parents for his child but it's not your problem and so early you shouldn't be his confidante. Please don't invest hours in listening to him offload. You've got your own life, worries, wins, day to day.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 13/12/2024 08:21

I don't think he's necessarily being unreasonable. Hower it's a shit show and not one I'd be a part of even if I didn't have kids.

Edingril · 13/12/2024 08:16

Survey you can't be that desperate for a partner, don't do this to your children

Isitmeor18 · 13/12/2024 08:12

I think he does like to be needed yes.

I remembered after posting that he told me 1.5 weeks ago that he had blocked her number because of her making more false allegations, yet he's back to ringing her every day.

The kind of allegations she makes are really damaging aswell. Fortunately the services know none of it is true because she's known for it, but still.

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SpryCat · 13/12/2024 00:03

Does he like to be needed? He sounds that way. He does seem overly involved especially as his child is hearing about it instead of being shielded.

If this is what he is like now I dread to think what your relationship would be like in 6 months time, he might try to involve you in his ex’s care. I think it’s mean he let his dc sibling go into care.

CheekyHobson · 12/12/2024 23:31

I don’t think you come off as an asshole at all.

You’re allowed to want a relationship that is uncomplicated. Personally I have a lot of boundaries now around the kind of drama that I don’t want to take on in a new relationship, which includes chaotic exes, mental heath problems, toxic families, certain chronic health conditions, addictions of any kind or a party lifestyle.

Not saying anyone dealing with those issues is a bad person or doesn’t deserve love, I just like my peaceful life and don’t want to disrupt it.

Isitmeor18 · 12/12/2024 22:59

Thank you all. You've confirmed my gut feeling, he isn't in the right place for a relationship right now.

He's trying. Bless him.

I think I will have a chat with him tomorrow and suggest we cool things off for now so he can concentrate on supporting his DS, and his DS mum if that's what he thinks he should do.

I'm going to have to word things better than I have on here 🤦🏼‍♀️

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Daisy12Maisie · 12/12/2024 22:58

Neither of you are in the wrong. I can see why he is involved but I can also see why you wouldn't want that in your life. I wouldn't either. I would wish him well but walk away.

Endofyear · 12/12/2024 22:48

It's certainly not an ideal situation when you're in a new relationship and I don't blame you for feeling it's all a bit much! But - she is his child's mother and she is unwell so I can understand him wanting to help and support her. He is obviously worried about her harming herself and can imagine the impact on their son if the worst should happen. I think it's admirable that he hasn't washed his hands of her.

I think you're right though that he's not in a place where he can give enough time or attention to a new relationship and it might be better for you if you walked away now.

Justcallmebebes · 12/12/2024 22:48

Good God no. This has disaster written all over it. Do yourself and your kids a favour and wish him well and walk away

BibbityBobbityToo · 12/12/2024 22:47

He's isn't being unreasonable by putting his son first. He won't want his son to lose his Mum so naturally will try to help her where he can.

You aren't being unreasonable by questioning if this is too much for you to feel comfortable with. Personally I would wish him well as he is clearly a kind a lovely person but I wouldn't pursue a relationship as you'll always be 3rd in the pecking order.

If you went on to have kids with him, you'll never be done with Social Workers and The Police contacting you about the ex.

Illpickthatup · 12/12/2024 22:46

Isitmeor18 · 12/12/2024 22:30

He said social services asked him if he would consider taking the other child (his DS' half brother) and whilst he momentarily considered it he decided it wasn't something he was able to do.

That little one has now been taken into care, hence her distressed calls today 😔

Social services will likely be wanting to get his view on her abilities as a mother since he has a child with her.

I don't think he's in the wrong to be as involved as he is. This other kid is his child's siblings after all. But I do think he has too much going on in his life to be entertaining a romantic relationship.

Isitmeor18 · 12/12/2024 22:45

Pussycat22 · 12/12/2024 22:38

I think HE thrives on the drama!

This is exactly what I was thinking myself but was reluctant to say as I felt guilty for even thinking it.

Every single time we speak he's talking about how she has done this, done that, he's called her and said this, she's called him and said that.

He got custody to shield their child from all of this stuff yet he isn't being shielded from it at all because it's all his dad goes on about.

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SleepPrettyDarling · 12/12/2024 22:43

Pussycat22 · 12/12/2024 22:38

I think HE thrives on the drama!

I disagree. His own child, and that child’s half-sibling, have a chaotic home, and any good person would prioritise (a) the child (children, depending on the involvement of the other dad, and (b) the mother’s stability in the hope of supporting her towards a better future relationship with her kids.

Stretchanoctave · 12/12/2024 22:39

Isitmeor18 · 12/12/2024 22:35

I've just read that back and think I sound like an absolute arsehole now 😔

You don’t. It is just too much to get involved in. I don’t think it will work out for you while he is so distracted.