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Left out at work?

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NevilleLong · 12/12/2024 17:30

Not sure if I'm being unreasonable or not.

Jacob's join is a frequent event at my place of work and I always cook and contribute. Normally a list is put up on the staff room door. This time there wasn't.

Overheard a conversation today about it, a colleague asked me what I was bringing. Explained I hadn't been told about it and know nothing about it. She said doesn't matter you can still eat something.

Colleague who has organised it is bringing her halogen oven so everyone can warm up food.

Just so happens, I stuck up for another colleague to the person who has organised the jacons join as she is almost impossible to work with. Think bossy, micromanaging, reading your emails etc.

I've got a lot of stress at home atm but to be deliberately left out, is not something I would personally do.

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Inkyblue123 · 18/12/2024 15:05

I’d ignore it. Either you were excluded by the Pot Luck Overlord deliberately, more likely it was a simple mistake. Either way I take it a stroke of good luck you didn’t have to faff about with devilled eggs. Who wants food poising anyway 🤢

PullTheBricksDown · 18/12/2024 15:04

MaybeALittle · 13/12/2024 07:46

So what’s the issue, exactly? From what you say, it hasn’t happened yet, and now you know about it, so either bring something on the day, or don’t bring something and eat what other people bring. If someone queries you not bringing a dish, say ‘No one told me!’

I think I if I had a lot of stress going on at home, I’d probably be deeply relieved not to have to cook a dish to take to work on top of it all!

It hasn't happened yet? Then make or buy something to bring in. IF this was deliberate, the best revenge will be turning up and joining in as if nothing happened to disrupt that! If it happened by accident, all good too.

If this person is disrupting the rest of the team's work, go and see your manager as a group so they know it's a shared feeling and ask them to deal with it. You'll get better results that way.

NewName24 · 18/12/2024 14:54

Pinkcountrybumpkin · 18/12/2024 07:34

its biblical rather than geographical, Jacob sent his sons out to bring food back during a 7 year famine.

Oh!
Interesting.

I've not heard it called that in ANY of the Churches I've been to where we've had bring and share meals. You'd think - if that were the case - then church goers might use the term, if anyone does Grin

MrsB74 · 18/12/2024 11:57

It’s called a fuddle in Derbyshire - it’s funny for different areas have different names.

I would have brought something really extravagant to annoy the organiser (better version of whatever she was bringing), who is being extremely petty! Probably not the best response though. Could you just ask in front of colleagues why you weren’t included to call out her pettiness?

Try to rise above it.

Pinkcountrybumpkin · 18/12/2024 07:34

NewName24 · 12/12/2024 22:36

Also aside, I've been to lots of 'shared lunches' or 'bring and share' meals, but never heard that term. I wonder if it is geographical ?

Re the shared mailbox - I mean, isn't the fact it is 'shared' a clue that everyone who has access to that mailbox, is able to read any of the e-mails ? Confused

its biblical rather than geographical, Jacob sent his sons out to bring food back during a 7 year famine.

Lollylucyclark101 · 18/12/2024 06:53

NevilleLong · 12/12/2024 17:43

I didn't mention my manager. It's were everyone brings a contribution of food.

So a “bring and share” (we have one today!) you’re making a massive assumption.

I didn’t know about our bring and share until last week…. I’ve been off for an operation……. No, I don’t think anyone has purposely left you out. Just grab a bag of crisps and a bottle of pop on your way to work. 🤷‍♀️

winter8090 · 13/12/2024 19:05

If it's a shared mailbox she isn't reading your emails. She's reading emails that comes to the shared inbox.

Do you know how it was communicated? Your other work colleague seemed to be happy to invite you.

Are you sure it's not an oversight?

And if it was intentional by your own admission this woman isn't nice. It's sounds true to form
For her.

It's never nice to feel excluded but go along and stick to the people you like.

Coconutter24 · 13/12/2024 17:54

So you over hear people talking about it, you then ask the organiser if everyone is invited, she tells you everyone is invited…. Then what? She walks away with no further conversation?

NevilleLong · 13/12/2024 17:46

@Coconutter24 No. They didn't ask me. They didn't ask if I knew about it, they didn't tell me it was happening, I knew nothing about it. At all.

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Coconutter24 · 13/12/2024 17:43

NevilleLong · 13/12/2024 17:25

@Coconutter24 yes everybody was invited.

But did they not ask if you got the invite or if anyone mentioned it to you?

NevilleLong · 13/12/2024 17:25

NewName24 · 13/12/2024 17:09

I agree with @MaybeALittle 's posts.

However, if this shared mailbox is causing issues amongst your team, (and it isn't very clear how it is supposed to work to me) then surely the sensible thing to do would be to go to the Manager and say "the system as it is, isn't working, can we do x / y / z instead?" rather than having a go at a colleague ?

Our manager tells us to sort things out between ourselves!

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NevilleLong · 13/12/2024 17:25

@Coconutter24 yes everybody was invited.

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Coconutter24 · 13/12/2024 17:23

NevilleLong · 13/12/2024 07:17

@DreamW3aver No we don't get a Christmas shutdown unfortunately.
I know I'm not being paranoid. As it's said individual who has organised it and asked everyone what to bring. I overheard a conversation late yesterday afternoon when it's happening today.

Did you ask the organiser if everyone was invited?

NewName24 · 13/12/2024 17:09

I agree with @MaybeALittle 's posts.

However, if this shared mailbox is causing issues amongst your team, (and it isn't very clear how it is supposed to work to me) then surely the sensible thing to do would be to go to the Manager and say "the system as it is, isn't working, can we do x / y / z instead?" rather than having a go at a colleague ?

TheBluntTurtle · 13/12/2024 08:36

It’s rubbish to be left out of things OP- I’m sorry you were forgotten about this time. But if it is a one off it could just be an honest mistake. If I were you I would monitor the situation as pp have suggested - see if you are invited to future events. If you are left out of future events then it would be the time to raise with your line manager and ask why this is happening and tell them how it makes you feel.

PinkTonic · 13/12/2024 08:28

Baconking · 13/12/2024 08:03

Can you not colour code the emails in the shared mailbox. That's what we do, each colleague has a category colour and the person working on the email colours it so we know it's being dealt with

It doesn’t sound like the OP is looking for advice on managing a shared mailbox, rather that the annoying person opens emails that are not hers to deal with and marks them complete. If this is happening frequently it’s reasonable to assume it’s deliberate or that she’s incompetent. Either way it’s appropriate to escalate to management as it’s detrimental to the team and workflow.

NevilleLong · 13/12/2024 08:21

Baconking · 13/12/2024 08:03

Can you not colour code the emails in the shared mailbox. That's what we do, each colleague has a category colour and the person working on the email colours it so we know it's being dealt with

We do do that. But unfortunately they are being colour coded and read by a different person so therefore the person who it's intended for thinks its something they have already dealt with when they haven't in fact even read it!

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Baconking · 13/12/2024 08:03

Can you not colour code the emails in the shared mailbox. That's what we do, each colleague has a category colour and the person working on the email colours it so we know it's being dealt with

MaybeALittle · 13/12/2024 07:46

NevilleLong · 13/12/2024 07:37

@MaybeALittle It wasn't in an email at all. It was verbally arranged. I found out by overhearing a conversation later on in the week!!

So what’s the issue, exactly? From what you say, it hasn’t happened yet, and now you know about it, so either bring something on the day, or don’t bring something and eat what other people bring. If someone queries you not bringing a dish, say ‘No one told me!’

I think I if I had a lot of stress going on at home, I’d probably be deeply relieved not to have to cook a dish to take to work on top of it all!

NevilleLong · 13/12/2024 07:37

@MaybeALittle It wasn't in an email at all. It was verbally arranged. I found out by overhearing a conversation later on in the week!!

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NevilleLong · 13/12/2024 07:36

RedHelenB · 13/12/2024 07:33

You shouldn't have interfered on behalf of your colleague.

It's happening to all of us all of the time so yes we are at the ends of our tethers!

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RedHelenB · 13/12/2024 07:33

You shouldn't have interfered on behalf of your colleague.

MaybeALittle · 13/12/2024 07:27

NevilleLong · 13/12/2024 07:02

I need to give more context! Sorry I didn't realise a Jacob's join was a northern thing.
For us it's where everyone is asked to bring something in and have a buffet.

No I don't think I'm being paranoid. We do this quite frequently at work and everyone is normally told about it and then arranges what said person is going to bring. I haven't been told and knew nothing about it.

Further, this with our emails and other things has been going on for weeks. Other colleagues have been approaching me. Our work is getting changed by said individual once we have done it, emails are getting read and missed as they are being marked as read and dealt with when they were not dealt with my the individual whose case it is
Micromanaging has been happening i.e going over to other people, checking where they are up-to with their work and what are they doing about such and such a thing. We are all the same level, with some of us being there and been doing the job a good number of years.

It's been a really stressful situation to navigate. How do you tell someone to stop micromanaging you and other team members without it becoming awkward?
They also then tell the manager that they get left with everything, which simply isn't true, and it makes us feel incompetent.

The stress at home basically I was trying to say I have got stress at home and work and I'm finding it all overwhelming.
So everyone has had enough of the micromanaging and constant critiquing. My colleague missed an email the other day as a result of it being "dealt" with but it wasn't so I confronted her. As a result, I didn't get invited to the "buffet" and asked to bring something in. Everyone else did!

Oh, for heaven’s sake, OP. You are paranoid. Maybe the notice about the sharing meal was in an email you didn’t see because your manager had marked it as ‘read’. Isn’t that just as possible, given the issues you describe? And I absolutely fail to see why you regard not being told about the Jacob’s Join as a ‘punishment’ — surely it means you’re relieved of the task of making a dish and carting it to work? Or, now that you know about it, you can bring something anyway?

It sounds like a minor issue compared to the situation with the incompetently-managed mailbox anyway.

MargaretThursday · 13/12/2024 07:24

My parents use the term Jacob's Join.

It sounds more likely a bit disorganised and an accident you didn't know. Maybe it was announced casually when a lot of people were around and people told to tell others, and just happened op fell between the cracks.
That sounds far more likely than a deliberate leaving out.

NevilleLong · 13/12/2024 07:17

@DreamW3aver No we don't get a Christmas shutdown unfortunately.
I know I'm not being paranoid. As it's said individual who has organised it and asked everyone what to bring. I overheard a conversation late yesterday afternoon when it's happening today.

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