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to not understand MNers against neurodiversity

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UkiUki · 12/12/2024 13:30

Inspired by another thread on here today but it’s an ongoing trend.

I’ve noticed that most, if not all of the time, when a poster suggests that a behaviour may be caused by ND, other posters jump on them and seem enraged that ‘everything is explained away with neurodiversity these days’.

There has been a lot of progress in understanding these conditions which has naturally contributed to an increase in people getting diagnosed. It is especially increasing in females as, per most medical issues, the parameters for diagnoses were created around male behaviour.

As someone currently in the latter part of the long and stressful diagnosis process, my motivation to suggest ND when I recognise certain traits in situations described is that my heart goes out to those who could flourish with a little extra understanding of how their brains work, especially children. I believe I would be a different person now if I’d had the support I needed growing up, instead of just believing I was lazy, clumsy and weird.

I feel a lot of irritation and sometimes outright anger from some posters, and the suggestion that people are using ND as an excuse somehow.

Aibu to not understand where this annoyance comes from?

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Jifmicroliquid · 12/12/2024 13:43

I am autistic, but I do believe people are too quick to jump to the ND ‘label’.
I was diagnosed late and I am relieved that was the case. I learnt to adapt to society as I had no choice. As a result I am a fully functioning member of society who nobody would suspect was autistic. Given too much help or leeway, I don’t think I’d be the capable and independent person I am today.
That’s what frustrates me I suppose, the notion that the world is going to bend for ND people. It doesn’t. And that’s why we need to prepare ND people for living in it, and that often means tough love and pushing people out of their comfort zone.
Schools are doing ND kids a huge disservice by not setting them up for the real world. Yes it’s harder for us, but that’s just the way it is.

UkiUki · 12/12/2024 13:43

ChickenNuggetFromSpencies · 12/12/2024 13:33

Tbf to the angry people, the suggestions on here are often ill timed and ill thought out.
It's not people being ND being an isdue, it's the fact that some posters would take "I don't like pasta" and run with "have you considered you might be autistic?". These are the ones getting hard time.
Imho this ott chair diagnosing actually devaluates the diagnosis.

I do understand posters getting a hard time when it’s a bit of a reach like that but sometimes I think it’s not such a stretch. There’s a difference between an armchair diagnosis or suggesting someone seek a proper diagnosis, or at least ask the question.

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adulthoodisajoke · 12/12/2024 13:43

UkiUki · 12/12/2024 13:40

But I don’t often see people using it to excuse behaviours, just saying that it might explain behaviours. It’s a fine line but I do feel like it’s different. For example, I don’t think that it’s okay for me to be constantly late, pretty much everywhere I go, but I now understand that it’s because I have time blindness, not because I’m lazy and selfish and don’t care about people waiting on me. I work really hard to be on time but the difference now is that I’m not so horrible to myself if I’m late. It also helps family and close friends to understand that I’m not acting in that way because I don’t value them, so creates more harmony in my close relationships.

youre self aware and im sure you apologise when youre late and now you know about time blindness are able to put measures in place to help yourself?
and harmony in relationships is great

UkiUki · 12/12/2024 13:40

adulthoodisajoke · 12/12/2024 13:33

I think a broader understanding of ND is great

what I dont think is great is excusing behaviours because of it and showing no self awareness of how these things can impact other people.
People should be accountable for their actions regardless of what causes it

extreme cases of ND are obviously a different story.

I am ND

But I don’t often see people using it to excuse behaviours, just saying that it might explain behaviours. It’s a fine line but I do feel like it’s different. For example, I don’t think that it’s okay for me to be constantly late, pretty much everywhere I go, but I now understand that it’s because I have time blindness, not because I’m lazy and selfish and don’t care about people waiting on me. I work really hard to be on time but the difference now is that I’m not so horrible to myself if I’m late. It also helps family and close friends to understand that I’m not acting in that way because I don’t value them, so creates more harmony in my close relationships.

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Locutus2000 · 12/12/2024 13:37

I believe I would be a different person now if I’d had the support I needed growing up, instead of just believing I was lazy, clumsy and weird.

Preach, sister. Many GenXers are in the same boat, myself included. So painful to think what might have been, after watching niblings who have thankfully had support in their early and teen years.

Scutterbug · 12/12/2024 13:36

I’m diagnosed autistic. I do get a little frustrated that often people jump to neurodiversity for issues with their children etc when many people have little quirks or work better with routines and the like but are not ND.
However, we are getting much better at recognising ND and that’s so important. Better to be assessed and for it to be rejected than not assessed at all.

adulthoodisajoke · 12/12/2024 13:35

ChickenNuggetFromSpencies · 12/12/2024 13:33

Tbf to the angry people, the suggestions on here are often ill timed and ill thought out.
It's not people being ND being an isdue, it's the fact that some posters would take "I don't like pasta" and run with "have you considered you might be autistic?". These are the ones getting hard time.
Imho this ott chair diagnosing actually devaluates the diagnosis.

yes this!!

and 'everyones a little autistic'

no they're not! youre either autistic or youre not.

ChickenNuggetFromSpencies · 12/12/2024 13:33

Tbf to the angry people, the suggestions on here are often ill timed and ill thought out.
It's not people being ND being an isdue, it's the fact that some posters would take "I don't like pasta" and run with "have you considered you might be autistic?". These are the ones getting hard time.
Imho this ott chair diagnosing actually devaluates the diagnosis.

adulthoodisajoke · 12/12/2024 13:33

I think a broader understanding of ND is great

what I dont think is great is excusing behaviours because of it and showing no self awareness of how these things can impact other people.
People should be accountable for their actions regardless of what causes it

extreme cases of ND are obviously a different story.

I am ND