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citygirl1961 · 12/12/2024 12:55

I would just like some advice before I say something to a good friend of mine. I feel I need to do but its how to say it.

She tends to avoid going into the city centre at weekends, especially close to Christmas as she says its too manic for her.

She messaged me yesterday to say she's meeting another friend, whom she doesn't see much, in town this Sunday. I replied to say its unusual for her and put a smiley face so as not to make it look like a critical remark. She came back with the comment that this friend works full time as is mega busy during the week so she doesn't mind as its a one off. My friend doesn't work now by the way.

The reason I am annoyed by this is that I met her in the city centre one day last summer on a Sunday when it wasn't too busy and she tried to steer me somewhere else. When I told her that I had been busy all week at work (I too work full time in a satisfying but demanding job) and preferred to stay in town she shrugged this off, was critical and told me I 'only sit down' at work and shouldn't be tired. I told her I didn't agree with this and didn't just take it.

I don't know how to respond to her now. I have let her see that I have noticed that she's being hyproctical so should I just leave it and wait till next time she refuses to be in town with me or do I remind her of the incident in the summer?

I don't want to argue with her but I won't be a punch bag either. She also made a sarcastic comment about going out for meals being my favourite pastime. This is something else she always comments on as she prefers to stay at home and cook, whereas I don't.

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BennyBee · 20/12/2024 09:30

This friendship does not seem to have healthy dynamics on either side. Both of you are passive aggressive to one another over text. Who needs that? I would suggest finding other friends who enjoy your company, and you theirs.

GreenFields07 · 18/12/2024 22:06

She could have social anxiety. Some days I cant even walk into a supermarket on my own, other days il travel the whole of my town alone. It comes and goes for me personally, its possible your friend suffers the same way. If you have anxiety yourself then hopefully you can be a little more understanding of that.
Its also possible that her other friend is more demanding and doesn't pander to her. Your friend may have suggested a different place to meet and her other friend refused, you really have no idea of how their friendship works and how the conversation went.
You sound very resentful of your friend, seems like you dont like her very much. All of your updates you just want to paint her in a really bad light and make your point more valid. You should end the friendship for her sake if this is how you feel / speak about her behind her back.
Her comments about your job weren't great but if it were my friend I wouldnt be that offended by it. Id have pulled her up at the time to squash it or just let it go. The fact you are still holding onto this is more proof of your resentment.

MellersSmellers · 17/12/2024 18:31

If it's a friendship you value, let it go for goodness sake!

TammyJones · 17/12/2024 13:02

After criticising my home I'd have been having a rethink about the friendship before even all the other stuff occurred

mintbug · 17/12/2024 12:26

It doesn't sound like either of you likes the other very much.

goldencabbage · 17/12/2024 06:02

She messaged me yesterday to say she's meeting another friend, whom she doesn't see much, in town this Sunday

The fact she told you that would suggest to me she was maybe hoping for a bit of support perhaps. Not a barbed comment with a smiley face.

If she's anxious about going into town perhaps you could see this as a step towards her overcoming that to an extent that she'll be able to plan going to town with you?

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 17/12/2024 05:56

So you were being critical then! Don't flower it ip with a smiley, say what you mean!

Stephenra · 16/12/2024 23:39

Friendships either grow or decline. It's not easy to face this but it's true. We would like them to go on forever but people just grow in different directions.

I have a feeling that simply letting go gently would be the best way to move on.

JollyZebra · 16/12/2024 20:49

I don't think you are controlling. I don't think this is much of a friendship, either, on both sides. You need to stop dwelling on how resentful you feel. Just leave it there and move on.

Jennaxoxox · 16/12/2024 19:22

I don't think it's all that deep! I do things I don't really like to make other people happy all the time. Like a girl from work asks to go to a coffee shop I hate, but I go because it's polite. Would I go with my actual friends? No, because I'm comfortable enough to tell them I really don't like going there 🤣🤣 I think your friend is comfortable enough to be true with you🤷🏻‍♀️ so was just avoiding the hassle, of saying no to the other friend

I also wouldn't be offended by the you sit down all day comment 🤣 she was probably half joking anyway 🤣 the other day, my friend told me to get out of her car before she went into the parking space because, I would be too fat to squeeze out 🤦🏻‍♀️🤣🤣 I wasn't offended, I was def too fat to squeeze out 🤣 (if she was with someone else, she would have hunted for a different space)

buttonousmaximous · 16/12/2024 13:24

🎵 Now then mardy bum....

One of a few things has happened-

A, she has become more confident and feels better about meeting in town with anyone including you.

B, she feels comfortable enough with you to be honest and say when she's struggling. She doesn't with other people so will put her self in uncomfortable situations rather than admit her issues

C, she pushes you around to get her own way because she knows she can

Manara · 16/12/2024 13:06

Well done for standing your ground, OP.

People will take you at your own valuation.

You showed you value yourself and your time, so she now realises she needs to value you as much as you value her.

citygirl1961 · 16/12/2024 13:00

OK just to get the record straight. As I have already said I am not saying that my friend or any other friend shouldn't meet other people in town or anywhere.

This friend I am talking about has a reputation among our general group of muttual friends for being awkward about making plans. She tries to change everything to suit herself, she will cancel arrangements at the last minute if there is just a spot of rain. She always wants to meet near where she lives. She has visited my flat in the past and criticised everything about it. On a few occasions she has even tried to change my birthday plans to suit her. I hardly think I am imagining it all. Yes you can brush it off when its now and again but it gets very tiring when it becomes a regular thing.

The recent issue is now resolved. I did reply to her in a friendly way just to remind her that I am busy also at work and that's why I can only meet people at weekends, as before she has expected me to meet her in the week, even though she knows I work then. She also quoted this other friends grade (in the Civil Service), trying to imply that she's very busy because she is a higher grade than me, when I know, and she knows as she has worked for the Civil Service, that the lower grades do all the work. I gently reminded her of this and she agreed with me! I said to her I hoped she had a nice time with friend. So she hasn't backed away from me, she agreed with me.

As to why I stay friends with her, well when she isn't being difficult she is good company and we have known each other for a long time.

I hope this explains things more.

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Manara · 16/12/2024 12:19

Calamitousness · 16/12/2024 12:16

@Manara tell me you have no clue without telling me you have no clue what you’re talking about 🤣

Can you explain why it's ok for someone who hates the town to meet a doctor in town but not an office worker?

Calamitousness · 16/12/2024 12:16

@Manara tell me you have no clue without telling me you have no clue what you’re talking about 🤣

Swiftie1878 · 16/12/2024 12:03

Goodness me!
please ditch this friend for her sake! You sound like an unhinged nightmare.
Leave the poor woman alone.

Manara · 16/12/2024 11:57

Calamitousness · 16/12/2024 11:54

@Manara how can you not see a difference. I have friends that are doctors and nurses in a busy tertiary hospital and frankly they are worked to the absolute ends of tolerance at this time of year. I have friends that work from home or in an office. I value the time and energy of my acute providers of healthcare more and will bend over backwards to accommodate them. Doesn’t mean I love them more. I’m just more aware that their daily work life of 12 hours plus on their feet with no breaks and dealing with a lot of death and critical situations is far more tiring mentally and physically than the others. So if they need me to be somewhere specific then I’d be more inclined to meet their needs and would sublimate my own.

how can you not understand people and their experiences are different.

It really doesn't make any sense to be willing to meet in town for a doctor or nurse and not an office worker. I know office workers who have worked 60 hours a week and are exhausted by Friday.

7ft1garysson · 16/12/2024 11:57

Neither of you need to explain to one another why you prefer to do things a certain way.

Calamitousness · 16/12/2024 11:54

@Manara how can you not see a difference. I have friends that are doctors and nurses in a busy tertiary hospital and frankly they are worked to the absolute ends of tolerance at this time of year. I have friends that work from home or in an office. I value the time and energy of my acute providers of healthcare more and will bend over backwards to accommodate them. Doesn’t mean I love them more. I’m just more aware that their daily work life of 12 hours plus on their feet with no breaks and dealing with a lot of death and critical situations is far more tiring mentally and physically than the others. So if they need me to be somewhere specific then I’d be more inclined to meet their needs and would sublimate my own.

how can you not understand people and their experiences are different.

NH84 · 16/12/2024 11:18

Maybe, as you’re good friends she’s closer to you than this other friend, and feels more comfortable to ask for what she needs i.e. staying close to home. Of course, you’re entitled to have your boundaries and needs too!

ItGhoul · 16/12/2024 10:07

The reason I am annoyed by this is that I met her in the city centre one day last summer

So, although she asked if you could meet elsewhere, you did in fact still meet in the city centre. Therefore she made the same exception for you that she did for her other friend.

For all you know, she might have had exactly the same conversation with her other friend first that she had with you.

Therefore YABU.

healthybychristmas · 16/12/2024 10:02

You don't sound awkward at all! She sounds like a pain in the neck actually.

annonymousse · 16/12/2024 10:01

I can understand why you're not happy OP. The double standard would annoy me too. Not sure if I would say anything or just tuck away the information for a later date.

DotComMillionaire · 16/12/2024 09:54

The friendship sounds dead or like it will naturally fade out, probably a good thing for both of you really

leftorrightnow · 16/12/2024 09:42

Sounds like maybe there are other things bothering you in the friendship? In a healthy friendship such a small thing as your friend going into town w another friend shouldn’t bother you.

people do different things at different times, and it’s not up to you to judge. I’d let it go, if it’s truly only about that small issue.

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