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To think you should leave the room with your screaming baby?

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reventiania · 11/12/2024 20:47

DS nativity today, 120 kids in the performance.

Throughout 75% of it, there were two babies (aged around 12 months) that were screaming and crying. It made it impossible to hear what the children were saying, and it essentially ruined the whole thing.

AIBU to think they should have left the room with them? I'm so cross for the children as they've worked so hard, just for crying babies to drown out their voices.

OP posts:
Mylittlebobble · 16/12/2024 09:25

Like others have said, our school has no siblings policy and no recording. Been in place for a few years and is followed by parents. Nativity was particularly lovely this year - only two classes, everyone had a speaking part, all lovely and clear, and not too long. Perfect!

Allswellthatendswelll · 16/12/2024 09:24

I am always for not being THAT parent but if I were you I would actually say something to the school/ head:

Dear Mrs X
We enjoyed little Tommy's nativity so much and we know your staff work so hard to make it happen. We felt a few unsettled babies made it really hard to hear. Could parents be possibly reminded next time to take them out?

It was highly likely the teachers were really pissed off by it too and sometimes schools need a bit of back up from other parents about stuff like this.

Bingobanging · 16/12/2024 09:21

Another top tip is that if you DO have to take a baby or a toddler, then DON’T install yourself in the middle of a row. Chose a seat on the end and as near to the door as possible so you can slip out with the least disruption possible.

FlowerGuild · 16/12/2024 09:17

teenmumstress24 · 11/12/2024 20:58

Came to basically say this. Yes, I'd have left and I don't think it's fair on the kids / other parents, BUT I'd feel really sorry for the parent having to leave and miss out on their eldest child's nativity. They would be upset and so would the child.

I wouldn't be more sorry for them than the 100 other parents some of whom have taken annual leave or grandparents who had to travel a distance to attend and who are now unable to watch the nativity. Loudly wailing big babies (12 months old, so soon toddlers rather than babies in arms) can upset the young children whose lines get drowned out by those spoilt babies, especially if they are a bit shy or nervous. They will have practiced for weeks it' just such a selfish thing of the parents not to take out their crying babies and spoil the nativity for everyone.

Of course teachers won't ask them to leave, they are too scared of those who are already inconsiderate. The inconsiderate rule the world now, and their spoilt and entitled offspring will be unable to ever take no for an answer or deal with minor disappointments in life.

Might as well stop doing any communal things such as nativities as people don't know any longer how to behave in a non obnoxious way in public. Everyone is out for their own gratification and don't seem to see that there are others around Tham that also might matter.

Stillherestillpraying · 16/12/2024 09:07

Absolutely and I would have zero qualms about voicing it aloud.
The children and teachers work hard at these plays and do not deserve to have them spoilt by one selfish person.

Bettergetthebunker · 16/12/2024 09:07

I’d never have taken a baby to a nativity, it’s stressful. It meant I missed several performances in the early years when my dh couldn’t either go instead or look after the youngest while I go.

fitzwilliamdarcy · 16/12/2024 09:04

YANBU but parents like this are everywhere now. It's all about their little family, their needs, what their situation is at home. Pointing out that other people exist and have their own needs is like trying to speak to them in another language.

(This thread is also why nobody believes people when they say they'll take babies out at the first fuss. Nobody does.)

goldencabbage · 16/12/2024 09:03

Efacsen · 16/12/2024 09:01

You can really spot the parents of these crying, nativity disrupting children on this thread can't you

Absolutely! It's fascinating reading the tone deaf justification - so little self-awareness
.

Yes it's all me me me and their child.

Efacsen · 16/12/2024 09:01

ButterMints · 16/12/2024 08:10

You can really spot the parents of these crying, nativity disrupting children on this thread can't you.

Nobody in their non-entitled mind thinks you are being unreasonable OP.

I had my wedding vows disrupted by a screaming baby. It was awful. The worst part was, we had no idea this baby existed (child of a cousin) and so the child wasn't even technically invited!

You can really spot the parents of these crying, nativity disrupting children on this thread can't you

Absolutely! It's fascinating reading the tone deaf justification - so little self-awareness
.

Porcuporpoise · 16/12/2024 09:00

Bundlesoffuntoday · 11/12/2024 20:53

I mostly agree with you but…if it’s a nativity then I’m guessing reception age at the oldest? If this is the case then I can imagine it being very upsetting for the child whose mum/dad left the room with the baby…particularly if there wasn’t another parent/grandparent there to watch so although I would leave, I can also see why some wouldn’t want to.

Of course. So much better that everyone else is upset than your child.

HolyPeaches · 16/12/2024 08:57

The parents who have young babies should tell their children who are performing:

“If baby brother/sister starts crying then I’ll have to take them outside. It might mean I miss some of the play, but it’s not fair on everyone else trying to listen”.

goldencabbage · 16/12/2024 08:56

Jabbabong · 16/12/2024 08:55

So that makes it okay to ruin the performance for everybody else? Entitlement much.

If the home dynamic is like that then the family need to make arrangements for a family member to attend without the baby.

And if the home dynamic is already like that then that's their issue to sort out and isn't going ro be sorted out by the school play

Jabbabong · 16/12/2024 08:55

TheSillyGoose · 11/12/2024 20:59

I've been there when someone else's baby was screaming during their older child's performance. They took the baby outside for a bit, but it hit their older DC's confidence massively.

If the family dynamic is already stretched at home due to a new baby I'm not sure I would want older DC feeling pushed aside by the younger again.

No one chooses to make their child cry.

YABU.

So that makes it okay to ruin the performance for everybody else? Entitlement much.

If the home dynamic is like that then the family need to make arrangements for a family member to attend without the baby.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 16/12/2024 08:54

Yes they should have taken them outside. I know it’s not always possible but this is why I would always bring someone with me. Mum, brother, friend, husband etc. then someone can stay while the other takes the baby out.

RampantIvy · 16/12/2024 08:54

Ohthatsabitshit · 16/12/2024 06:36

I think it’s unreasonable to feel a child’s nativity play is “ruined” by a baby crying.

I think YABU

Jabbabong · 16/12/2024 08:52

Tetchypants · 11/12/2024 20:50

Yes, you should leave if your baby starts screaming. It happened at one of our school plays and eventually the head teacher stopped the performance and politely asked the parent to leave. Harsh but fair.

Good!

If the parent does not have the decency to leave the performance then they should quite rightly be ousted by one of the senior teachers.

This is not a new problem. There should be an announcement at the start to make it clear that screaming babies need to be calmed or taken outside.

goldencabbage · 16/12/2024 08:48

Ohthatsabitshit · 16/12/2024 06:36

I think it’s unreasonable to feel a child’s nativity play is “ruined” by a baby crying.

It can be. If you can't hear the kids a lot of them are very quiet

goldencabbage · 16/12/2024 08:46

Waffle19 · 16/12/2024 07:31

This has made me worried as I’m taking my youngest to my oldest’s first nativity today (no childcare for youngest else I wouldn’t take him to be honest). Oldest one doesn’t have much confidence anyway and would be totally unsettled and sad if I walked out and likewise I would be gutted to miss any of it.

Definitely agree in principle screaming babies should be taken out but it’s not an easy situation for anyone.

Tough. It is an easy situation. Teach your kids respect.

Bingobanging · 16/12/2024 08:46

TheSillyGoose · 11/12/2024 20:59

I've been there when someone else's baby was screaming during their older child's performance. They took the baby outside for a bit, but it hit their older DC's confidence massively.

If the family dynamic is already stretched at home due to a new baby I'm not sure I would want older DC feeling pushed aside by the younger again.

No one chooses to make their child cry.

YABU.

In that scenario, you pre warn your child that if their baby sibling starts to cry , then you will have to take them out and that you’ll do your very best to come back as soon as possible but in case you don’t, the most important thing is that baby sibling doesn’t spoil the entire show for all the other children and families.

Simple 😊

Givemethreerings · 16/12/2024 08:45

Better one child is upset (by their parent stepping out with their baby sibling) than 30 children upset as they can’t be heard over cries!

It’s selfish to put the gratification of one over the many.

Dumbles · 16/12/2024 08:41

Of course you have to remove them! I can’t believe people are actually trying to defend the alternative.

Ruining the play for an entire class and all the parents just so not to upset one child is madness.

MandyFriend · 16/12/2024 08:39

My daughter has just become a teacher, and I had the pleasure of attending her class's nativity play. It was charming, although a few parents had younger children who were quite loud. I understand they don't want to miss out on their children's moments, but it felt somewhat inconsiderate. The school had made a classroom available for when their baby began to cry, so there truly was no excuse.
I must add that nothing has changed from when I saw her perform in her class Nativity play 20 years ago!

goldencabbage · 16/12/2024 08:34

Bundlesoffuntoday · 11/12/2024 20:53

I mostly agree with you but…if it’s a nativity then I’m guessing reception age at the oldest? If this is the case then I can imagine it being very upsetting for the child whose mum/dad left the room with the baby…particularly if there wasn’t another parent/grandparent there to watch so although I would leave, I can also see why some wouldn’t want to.

Don't care. The other kids are performing. That needs respect. Have you tried performing with a load of noise going on?

Worcestershirem0mmy · 16/12/2024 08:31

Yes, absolutely selfish for them not to leave! I’d have been furious

LurkyLuke · 16/12/2024 08:29

teenmumstress24 · 11/12/2024 20:58

Came to basically say this. Yes, I'd have left and I don't think it's fair on the kids / other parents, BUT I'd feel really sorry for the parent having to leave and miss out on their eldest child's nativity. They would be upset and so would the child.

Agree

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