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To think you should leave the room with your screaming baby?

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reventiania · 11/12/2024 20:47

DS nativity today, 120 kids in the performance.

Throughout 75% of it, there were two babies (aged around 12 months) that were screaming and crying. It made it impossible to hear what the children were saying, and it essentially ruined the whole thing.

AIBU to think they should have left the room with them? I'm so cross for the children as they've worked so hard, just for crying babies to drown out their voices.

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IJustLoveTea · 20/12/2024 06:09

Former primary teacher here!
When our pupils performed their Christmas plays, it was always requested by the Headteacher that little ones weren’t brought into performances. A special performance was put on that younger siblings could attend. Whilst performing, the children use each other as cues to say their own lines and if there is a lot of noise from the audience, they’re unable to hear their ‘feeder’ line from their friends, which can end in utter chaos. I know that for the teachers and the children, a huge amount of work has gone in beforehand and it’s a great shame if they can’t do their very best on the day.

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 16/12/2024 21:42

tulippa · 16/12/2024 18:35

I have a really clear memory of kicking off as a young child at my older DB's school play. DM picked me up, dumped me in the car (which was parked about 500m from the school - not in the car park) and went back in to watch the rest of the performance. I can still remember banging on the windows and screaming as she walked off.

Imagine someone doing that today!

They should.

ButterCrackers · 16/12/2024 21:40

It’s really selfish and bad parenting to keep a child screaming in the audiance. The parent/carer should have gone out of the room with the child.

MargaretThursday · 16/12/2024 21:37

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 16/12/2024 18:10

It is completely ridiculous to try and get 120 kids in a 'play'.
There is roughly 10 people in a nativity, tops
Not everyone has to be on stage. It's pathetic

I've just come back from chaperoning at a nativity play with around 100 cast members. Most of them weren't kids though.
We did have a baby crying for part of it, but his (her) surrogate parents did take Jesus out and swap for the substitute (doll) until Jesus was calm enough to come back on stage (where he went to sleep in Mary's arms). It did get a chuckle when they said "be quiet - he's sleeping" while he (she) was screaming her head off into Mary's mike though.

Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 16/12/2024 18:35

TheSillyGoose · 11/12/2024 20:59

I've been there when someone else's baby was screaming during their older child's performance. They took the baby outside for a bit, but it hit their older DC's confidence massively.

If the family dynamic is already stretched at home due to a new baby I'm not sure I would want older DC feeling pushed aside by the younger again.

No one chooses to make their child cry.

YABU.

So ruin the experience for the entire rest of the class and all the other parents just to keep one child happy? That is totally unreasonable and unfair.

tulippa · 16/12/2024 18:35

I have a really clear memory of kicking off as a young child at my older DB's school play. DM picked me up, dumped me in the car (which was parked about 500m from the school - not in the car park) and went back in to watch the rest of the performance. I can still remember banging on the windows and screaming as she walked off.

Imagine someone doing that today!

TheaBrandt · 16/12/2024 18:26

Can’t imagine year 6 doing a nativity! cringe they are far too old. Our old primary did it really well. Reception to year 2 they did a class song in costume. Year 3 was the key year and children were roles / narrators in the proper nativity. Year 4 onwards there was a Christmas concert for the children that chose to take part. Worked really well.

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 16/12/2024 18:10

Giftss · 16/12/2024 14:40

I thought it was common to have a nativity play for KS1 and KS2. Usually Year 6 will have the main roles and other classes dress up as a sheep, shepherd etc and everyone sings. Bun fight? Children aren't going to act like really drunk angry women who fight.

It is completely ridiculous to try and get 120 kids in a 'play'.
There is roughly 10 people in a nativity, tops
Not everyone has to be on stage. It's pathetic

Phil39 · 16/12/2024 15:02

We weren't allowed to take younger siblings for this reason!

Giftss · 16/12/2024 14:40

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 16/12/2024 06:43

Sorry, but 120 children on stage is not a nativity play, it's a feckin ridiculous bun-fight.

I thought it was common to have a nativity play for KS1 and KS2. Usually Year 6 will have the main roles and other classes dress up as a sheep, shepherd etc and everyone sings. Bun fight? Children aren't going to act like really drunk angry women who fight.

Pipconkermash · 16/12/2024 13:23

Can’t quite believe the posters trying to justify the behaviour of the selfish pricks with the screaming baby.

AlliWantIsARoomSomewheeeere · 16/12/2024 13:22

Leavesonthewashingline · 11/12/2024 20:54

Our HT always used to say, before the performance ‘if a little one gets upset or unsettled, please don’t worry about taking them out - take them out, settle them, and then come back’.
Worked perfectly! People took the hint, and because it was given in advance it didn’t hurt either

My kids school do this, siblings are welcome, but if they get noisy take them through there..points to door. It should be obvious, but at least it sets a boundary!

Xsxjxmx · 16/12/2024 11:44

They definitely should have left. I have an 19 month old and was at his sister theatre group show Saturday evening he cried on 2 occasions, one I quitened him quickly, the other he was so tired he wouldn't settle so I stood up and walk out with him and came back when he was quiet. Kids and adults all work so hard on these things and the parents want to hear the children not my shouting child! Be respectful of thag

ChimneyRock · 16/12/2024 11:04

Unfortunately, the kind of selfish parent who refuses to take a screaming child out of a performance is not one who'd take a blind bit of notice of the Head "reminding" everyone at the beginning.
Their wants trump everyone else's.

Tootiredmummyof3 · 16/12/2024 10:52

Leavesonthewashingline · 11/12/2024 20:54

Our HT always used to say, before the performance ‘if a little one gets upset or unsettled, please don’t worry about taking them out - take them out, settle them, and then come back’.
Worked perfectly! People took the hint, and because it was given in advance it didn’t hurt either

This what they did at both DDs and DSs school. Said siblings were welcome but if they got upset could they be taken out for a little while to calm down.
Thankfully I only had to take a sibling twice and they were 2 and 3 but I can see it would be rubbish for parent and child if they have to leave but it's selfish not to.

EasternStandard · 16/12/2024 10:46

TheLurpackYears · 16/12/2024 06:31

You know you can't usually hear what is said at a nativity even if the audience is silent?
120 children? Was this a stadium gig?
How big was the hall? Seating for what, 250?
The children with speaking parts would have been mic'd up, I think this is an issue for whoever set up the PA, not the tiny percentage of babies that got upset during the performance.

Ours are a couple of year groups so they are a lot of children

Children are asked to does up for their lines which they do

They just do multiple performances so all parents who want to can watch

Op yanbu, what a pity

5128gap · 16/12/2024 10:06

TheSillyGoose · 11/12/2024 20:59

I've been there when someone else's baby was screaming during their older child's performance. They took the baby outside for a bit, but it hit their older DC's confidence massively.

If the family dynamic is already stretched at home due to a new baby I'm not sure I would want older DC feeling pushed aside by the younger again.

No one chooses to make their child cry.

YABU.

Then unfortunately that's a challenge for them as parents to manage. Most of us who have more than one child need to navigate this dynamic. Many of us have to find ways to help our children feel confident. To ruin the experience of other children and parents is not an acceptable or proportionate way to do that. Individual needs to not trump those of a group.

fedup33 · 16/12/2024 09:48

Typical of the me me me society.

Butterbean21 · 16/12/2024 09:47

At our show they made it very clear everyone have a ticket (including toddlers) so most people didn't bring their toddlers. Of course some did and kicked off at the door when they were told they didn't have enough tickets. As the headteacher was asking everyone to kindly remove screaming children to the reception area she had to raise her voice to be heard over the already screaming baby, the mum of whom chose not to remove her. Schools can't win. We previously had mics but one little boy shouted every single line without warning!

Nanny0gg · 16/12/2024 09:45

RampantIvy · 16/12/2024 08:24

They weren't allowed at DD's school either, but they were invited to the final dress rehearsal instead.

Our school didn't allow babies and younger siblings (nursery children watched with the school children and behaved perfectly!)

But we always did a video of the performance (fab fundraiser) so they could also watch at their leisure with their DC at home

SleepingStandingUp · 16/12/2024 09:34

Head teacher reminds at EVERY assembly, school play etc.
"Ooh it's lovely to see the little ones in the audience, but if they do become unsettled or noisy please use any door to take them out to settle them and then come back to join us "
No offence given or taken, even when it's just one baby in the room. I once parked my twins in the hallway and watched in the ajar door. I can make it up to my child, I can't make it up to a whole school

SleepingStandingUp · 16/12/2024 09:32

TheSillyGoose · 11/12/2024 20:59

I've been there when someone else's baby was screaming during their older child's performance. They took the baby outside for a bit, but it hit their older DC's confidence massively.

If the family dynamic is already stretched at home due to a new baby I'm not sure I would want older DC feeling pushed aside by the younger again.

No one chooses to make their child cry.

YABU.

So you're happy for your child to not be able to be heard and be upset knowing you couldn't hear their lines if it means another child isn't upset?

Getonwitit · 16/12/2024 09:30

All of those children will have put in so much time and effort in to have it ruined by a ill mannered and entitled adult, i hope she is ashamed but i doubt it.

Allswellthatendswelll · 16/12/2024 09:29

TheSillyGoose · 11/12/2024 20:59

I've been there when someone else's baby was screaming during their older child's performance. They took the baby outside for a bit, but it hit their older DC's confidence massively.

If the family dynamic is already stretched at home due to a new baby I'm not sure I would want older DC feeling pushed aside by the younger again.

No one chooses to make their child cry.

YABU.

If the family dynamic is stretched that is on the parent.

Honestly I see it time and time again when parents expect schools and teaching staff to parent for them.

Thedogstolemyheatedblanket · 16/12/2024 09:26

TheSillyGoose · 11/12/2024 20:59

I've been there when someone else's baby was screaming during their older child's performance. They took the baby outside for a bit, but it hit their older DC's confidence massively.

If the family dynamic is already stretched at home due to a new baby I'm not sure I would want older DC feeling pushed aside by the younger again.

No one chooses to make their child cry.

YABU.

Sorry but no, you are acting like the rest of the world doesn't matter.