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To not rock the incorrect maths of new friends regarding the bill Spilt?

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Nicenicenight · 11/12/2024 19:41

I moved to a new area in September and my little DD started reception the first week of octopus thus missing out on all the on-boarding.

She's settled well but I've struggled to make friends sadly. My hopes were high, my mom's closest friends were made in the playground 25 years ago and they all have a great relationship one on one and in groups, holidays nights out, supportive through hard times etc etc. I think my expectations were high, but I've stood mostly alone twice a day in the playground since October despite being really friendly. I've been quite sad, perhaps it all would have been easier if we'd managed to move before the school year had started 🥲.

I decided last week to try and help out on the PTA both for the benefit of the school and maybe it would help me socially.

There's one group of moms (they have older DC at the school so have bonded well over the years) that always stand together in the playground and they're all massive big contributors in the PTA, so I bravely went and sat near them at the meeting last Thursday and tried small talking to them and I felt Okayish, making some progress.

During the meeting I offered a voucher for a free meal at a Nice Restaurant in the centre of the city to be used as a raffle prize. I had the voucher as I work for a different restaurant within the same company, and my manager kindly gave it to me for the school. We got chatting at the meeting about my work etc and I left the meeting feeling good.

The next morning got even better, one of the 5 moms came up to me and asked if I'd like to join them at the said restaurant on the Saturday night (the following day) as they'd got a table booked for 5 for a festive meal, and thought I'd like to join them. I felt so welcomed and joyous by this and immediately said yes and went straight into the city to buy a nice outfit ad these women are always so well groomed, I didn't want to let the side down on this important first night with the girls. I was thrilled. And my mom was really pleased too when I phoned her to tell her about it all.

The night was lovely, obviously they all know each other and I'm the newbie, so the dynamic was slightly strange because they're so close but I felt welcomed and it's early stages, I feel this could be the start of something great. 💞

We left the restaurant with them all promising to make a date for another get together soon.

Gosh that's long, but here's my AIBU I guess.

I get a 33% staff discount (I know,I know it's fabulous) so we did go a bit wild with cocktails 😂🍸, but my discount got the bill for 6 down from £500ish to £330ish so £55ish each I thought.

But I said I'd got a £50 M&B voucher (most 5 star reviews in a month 😇) from work, so just got £10 cash out my wallet to cover the remaining.

But one of my new friends saw the voucher and said we should take that off the £360 and then split the £310 6 ways so pay £52 each and I kinda didn't want to rock the boat when they'd been do welcoming and kind to me, so I went along with it and I put another £45 in to cover the rest.

We ll them decided on £5each as a top for the staff, all good.

I'm sure as is an infancy friendship, it was the correct tactic to go along with being amenable with the group thought but I do feel I pay a bit extra that I should have.

YANBU, best to roll with the majority to avoid awkwardness

YABU should have said something really. 😬

OP posts:
Sheepchops · 12/12/2024 11:22

I would always use a voucher to reduce the bill for everyone - anything else seems tight

Magnastorm · 12/12/2024 11:21

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 11:14

Aren’t you just all about money: ‘bonus’, ‘earnt’ ‘amount’, ‘money’, ‘cash’.

It was a perk. People of a more generous nature would actively have enjoyed sharing it with their new friends.

The combo of tight and gauche is not uncommon on MN.

What part of "her's" don't you understand?

It was something she earnt. It's not a perk, she earnt it just like she earns her wages. If OP didn't turn up and do her job, she wouldn't have had it. Therefore, it's earnt.

If she wanted to share it, then that should have been up to her, not up to a bunch of people she barely knows. That's not being tight, that's just not rolling over to a bunch of cheeky arseholes taking advantage.

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 11:14

Magnastorm · 12/12/2024 11:04

It was a bonus from her work. She earnt it, and it was worth a specific amount of money. In this instance it absolutely is the equivalent of cash.

If it was a 10% voucher she had cut out of a leaflet then that's a different matter, but that voucher was for her, and the CFs had no right to insist she share it.

Edited

Aren’t you just all about money: ‘bonus’, ‘earnt’ ‘amount’, ‘money’, ‘cash’.

It was a perk. People of a more generous nature would actively have enjoyed sharing it with their new friends.

The combo of tight and gauche is not uncommon on MN.

TheThreeCheesesOfTheApocalypse44 · 12/12/2024 11:12

They were being extremely cheeky......they'd already benefitted from a large discount thanks to you.

Lesson learned tho, at least you'll know to keep your vouchers to yourself in future.

BeLilacSloth · 12/12/2024 11:08

OP these are not friends, they have clearly used you twice now just for your discount. Please DO NOT go to this restaurant with them again. I wonder if they’ll actually invite you somewhere else without a hefty discount 🥴

Magnastorm · 12/12/2024 11:04

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 10:52

No I would not.

No-one has said she wasn’t entitled to use her voucher - she could have used it on her family on another occasion. A voucher is not cash.

It was a bonus from her work. She earnt it, and it was worth a specific amount of money. In this instance it absolutely is the equivalent of cash.

If it was a 10% voucher she had cut out of a leaflet then that's a different matter, but that voucher was for her, and the CFs had no right to insist she share it.

Rosiecidar · 12/12/2024 11:00

I would have used the voucher to reduce the total cost. If you didn't want to do that then I think you should have kept it for another event.

notatinydancer · 12/12/2024 10:59

You sound so desperate to make school mum friends. You cant automatically be friends with people just because your kids are in the same class.
I was never on more than nodding terms with anyone.
I had a really good friend from my child's nursery , but my other friends were from elsewhere.

Annabella92 · 12/12/2024 10:56

They were cheeky to ask and expect you to use your voucher for them.

I would have saved the voucher for another occasion to prevent awkwardness because I do feel there could have been a slightly unreasonable expectation to share. It was rude of them to voice that though, and I'd have to be very desperate for friends to go out with these ladies again as this would have left a bad taste.

But as the pp said, the voucher was basically cash.

Annabella92 · 12/12/2024 10:53

Magnastorm · 12/12/2024 10:48

You'd be wrong to think that. The voucher is the equivalent of cash, and the OP is perfectly entitled to use that to cover her share and not split it.

If everyone else was using cards to pay and OP just had a bundle of tenners, would you expect her to share that out too?

Edited

Ooh. Interesting way of looking at it!!

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 10:52

Magnastorm · 12/12/2024 10:48

You'd be wrong to think that. The voucher is the equivalent of cash, and the OP is perfectly entitled to use that to cover her share and not split it.

If everyone else was using cards to pay and OP just had a bundle of tenners, would you expect her to share that out too?

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No I would not.

No-one has said she wasn’t entitled to use her voucher - she could have used it on her family on another occasion. A voucher is not cash.

Magnastorm · 12/12/2024 10:48

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 10:44

I’d think someone was tight if they got out a voucher and used it only on themselves. It wouldn’t occur to me to get one out in that setting and not offer it for general use.

Are you sure they didn’t misunderstand and thought you were offering?

You'd be wrong to think that. The voucher is the equivalent of cash, and the OP is perfectly entitled to use that to cover her share and not split it.

If everyone else was using cards to pay and OP just had a bundle of tenners, would you expect her to share that out too?

Thursdaygirl · 12/12/2024 10:47

After getting them a 33% discount they basically also took something that had been given to her as a personal gift. I'm sure in my friendship group someone would have said something like 'Don't be daft, that's your voucher, you earned it, you use it for yourself'.

This!!

Startinganew32 · 12/12/2024 10:45

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 10:44

I’d think someone was tight if they got out a voucher and used it only on themselves. It wouldn’t occur to me to get one out in that setting and not offer it for general use.

Are you sure they didn’t misunderstand and thought you were offering?

Even if they’d got you a fat discount after you’d spent the evening knocking back cocktails and now you had to pay 50 something rather than 80 something on your bill? You’d still think they were tight?

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 10:44

I’d think someone was tight if they got out a voucher and used it only on themselves. It wouldn’t occur to me to get one out in that setting and not offer it for general use.

Are you sure they didn’t misunderstand and thought you were offering?

Oodydoody · 12/12/2024 10:40

They are CF's.
Just be aware of it.
That was really rude after they got the 33% reduction.
Be wary.

Trickedbyadoughnut · 12/12/2024 10:37

I didn't understand when reading your post that the voucher was a reward from your work, I thought you meant it was a freebie from work - so maybe that's what they thought too?

I had to look it up online as I didn't understand why everyone was saying they were CFs 😆

Floatlikeafeather2 · 12/12/2024 10:37

I have a horrible feeling, OP, that if you had mentioned that you worked at Harrods/insert name of desirable place to shop (I'm clueless!)and what a generous staff discount you get, you would have found them suggesting you all meet there for coffee, then suggesting a wander round the store to do some Christmas shopping and "Oh, how much discount did you say you get.....?". Please be circumspect about this. And take your time. Friends will come at some point and they'll be people who are interested in you and not in your usefulness to them.

whiskeytangofox · 12/12/2024 10:37

Just take it slowly OP as you don’t know if they’re genuinely a nice group of mums or only want you for your very generous food & beverage discounts. The fact they grabbed your £50 voucher after already receiving a massive discount suggests they’re not actually very nice at all!

See if they happily include you in other activities and get togethers that don’t involve meals out. Don’t offer any discounts for at least the next 3 drinks occasions and see if anyone comments.

Do you invite the friends of your DC to play dates at yours? This is often a good way to get to know other mums. I’m friendly with a couple of mums from DC’s primary school but mostly regarding texting about school matters. We don’t meet up socially.

My proper friends are mostly nothing to do with school matters but related to hobbies and interests I’m involved with.

Toddlerteaplease · 12/12/2024 10:35

I think the discount should have been shared. Definitely choose a different chain next time so they can't use you for a discount.

Magnastorm · 12/12/2024 10:34

Cheeky as all hell for them to insist you shared your voucher. It's basically the equivalent of you using cash to pay for your share. It was something you earnt, they had no right to benefit from it, and they had already benefited from you having a decent discount in any case. What I wonder is whether you had told them about this discount ahead of time, and they were (unfortunately) using you for that, rather than it being a genuine invite.

But... that aside you do also come across as bit overinvested in this whole thing re: making friends etc. When you find your group it should just feel natural and comfortable, and it's best not to overthink it. Just see how the relationships develop, without this slightly intense approach to it all.

starfishmummy · 12/12/2024 10:15

If I had a voucher and was with close friends I'd automatically share; but in this case they were cheeky especially after you got the discount, however I'd have done the same as you did.

But lesson learned to not use a voucher if you go out with them again!

TheBluntTurtle · 12/12/2024 10:15

Oh it’s so awks! I would never do what they did - the voucher was obviously your money and it should have been up to you to decide if you share.
in your circumstance I wouldn’t raise it- but I wouldn’t be relying on these women to become my friends either. Perhaps cast your net beyond the school gates for friends - society has changed a lot since your mum made her friends at the school gates - just because you’re all mums doesn’t mean you share the same values and have the same interests beyond being mums.

ThatsWhatImTalkinAbout · 12/12/2024 10:14

I’d recommend you watch Motherland. It’s available on Netflix. Any parent who has primary school children will know why I’ve mentioned it!😆

Rosscameasdoody · 12/12/2024 10:10

KrisAkabusi · 12/12/2024 10:03

Why though? Imagine two people go for dinner at £50 each. One has a voucher for £40 that she was going use but the other person insists it's used to split. She now only pays £30 for her meal, but the person with the voucher has spent £70! How is that fair? This is the exact same only spread around more people.

This. It was a cash equivalent, not a discount and it was personal to OP, so as well as providing the 33% discount, which has no financial impact on OP, she has effectively subsidised them an extra £10 each out of her own pocket and paid for her own meal on top of that.