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To not rock the incorrect maths of new friends regarding the bill Spilt?

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Nicenicenight · 11/12/2024 19:41

I moved to a new area in September and my little DD started reception the first week of octopus thus missing out on all the on-boarding.

She's settled well but I've struggled to make friends sadly. My hopes were high, my mom's closest friends were made in the playground 25 years ago and they all have a great relationship one on one and in groups, holidays nights out, supportive through hard times etc etc. I think my expectations were high, but I've stood mostly alone twice a day in the playground since October despite being really friendly. I've been quite sad, perhaps it all would have been easier if we'd managed to move before the school year had started 🥲.

I decided last week to try and help out on the PTA both for the benefit of the school and maybe it would help me socially.

There's one group of moms (they have older DC at the school so have bonded well over the years) that always stand together in the playground and they're all massive big contributors in the PTA, so I bravely went and sat near them at the meeting last Thursday and tried small talking to them and I felt Okayish, making some progress.

During the meeting I offered a voucher for a free meal at a Nice Restaurant in the centre of the city to be used as a raffle prize. I had the voucher as I work for a different restaurant within the same company, and my manager kindly gave it to me for the school. We got chatting at the meeting about my work etc and I left the meeting feeling good.

The next morning got even better, one of the 5 moms came up to me and asked if I'd like to join them at the said restaurant on the Saturday night (the following day) as they'd got a table booked for 5 for a festive meal, and thought I'd like to join them. I felt so welcomed and joyous by this and immediately said yes and went straight into the city to buy a nice outfit ad these women are always so well groomed, I didn't want to let the side down on this important first night with the girls. I was thrilled. And my mom was really pleased too when I phoned her to tell her about it all.

The night was lovely, obviously they all know each other and I'm the newbie, so the dynamic was slightly strange because they're so close but I felt welcomed and it's early stages, I feel this could be the start of something great. 💞

We left the restaurant with them all promising to make a date for another get together soon.

Gosh that's long, but here's my AIBU I guess.

I get a 33% staff discount (I know,I know it's fabulous) so we did go a bit wild with cocktails 😂🍸, but my discount got the bill for 6 down from £500ish to £330ish so £55ish each I thought.

But I said I'd got a £50 M&B voucher (most 5 star reviews in a month 😇) from work, so just got £10 cash out my wallet to cover the remaining.

But one of my new friends saw the voucher and said we should take that off the £360 and then split the £310 6 ways so pay £52 each and I kinda didn't want to rock the boat when they'd been do welcoming and kind to me, so I went along with it and I put another £45 in to cover the rest.

We ll them decided on £5each as a top for the staff, all good.

I'm sure as is an infancy friendship, it was the correct tactic to go along with being amenable with the group thought but I do feel I pay a bit extra that I should have.

YANBU, best to roll with the majority to avoid awkwardness

YABU should have said something really. 😬

OP posts:
Magnastorm · 12/12/2024 14:06

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 13:30

Oh come on. She got a voucher for getting 5* reviews. It’s not that she did more hours she was just nicer to the customers.

Right, so she got a bonus for being good at her job and getting good feedback. Meaning it was hers to spend as she chose, and not up to people she barely knows to think they are entitled to it.

Just because it's a voucher rather than cash makes no difference to that at all.

Glad that's cleared up.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 12/12/2024 13:52

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 13:48

There’s many different kinds of bonuses. A bonus can be % of salary, flat rate, tied into company profits, performance-related - sales targets & other metrics etc. This was a very modest reward for a very modest achievement.

None of this affects the fact that it’s rather gauche to get it out in company and not offer it. So if you’re tight keep it in your wallet when you’re out with friends.

So it’s the same for cash if it was a bonus?

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 12/12/2024 13:49

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 13:30

Oh come on. She got a voucher for getting 5* reviews. It’s not that she did more hours she was just nicer to the customers.

It was her bonus to use as she chose.
What if the bonus was cash?

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 13:48

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 12/12/2024 13:39

It is normal for bonuses to be performance-related.

There’s many different kinds of bonuses. A bonus can be % of salary, flat rate, tied into company profits, performance-related - sales targets & other metrics etc. This was a very modest reward for a very modest achievement.

None of this affects the fact that it’s rather gauche to get it out in company and not offer it. So if you’re tight keep it in your wallet when you’re out with friends.

ByGreatDenimCat · 12/12/2024 13:45

You seem really desperate to fit in. I say that because you bought a new outfit for this dinner because all the others are well-groomed.

Do you have other experiences of being taken advantage of? I wonder if you’re creating another situation where you’ll end up feeling used.

Friendship doesn’t require buying new outfits, fitting in, offering material incentives, etc.

Startinganew32 · 12/12/2024 13:44

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 13:42

That’s precisely the point.

I don’t get your point. So should anyone who gets a bonus share it with their friends because they didn’t work extra hours for it?

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 13:42

Startinganew32 · 12/12/2024 13:36

Have you never worked anywhere what does bonuses? You don’t have to work more hours for them.

That’s precisely the point.

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 12/12/2024 13:39

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 13:30

Oh come on. She got a voucher for getting 5* reviews. It’s not that she did more hours she was just nicer to the customers.

It is normal for bonuses to be performance-related.

Startinganew32 · 12/12/2024 13:36

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 13:30

Oh come on. She got a voucher for getting 5* reviews. It’s not that she did more hours she was just nicer to the customers.

Have you never worked anywhere what does bonuses? You don’t have to work more hours for them.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/12/2024 13:35

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 13:30

Oh come on. She got a voucher for getting 5* reviews. It’s not that she did more hours she was just nicer to the customers.

Doesn’t alter the fact that it was a voucher for her own personal use.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/12/2024 13:33

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 10:52

No I would not.

No-one has said she wasn’t entitled to use her voucher - she could have used it on her family on another occasion. A voucher is not cash.

But in this case it was. It was a cash equivalent given as a personal gift for her performance in work.

What actually happened at the restaurant was that she got a 33% discount -considerable savings for them all with no personal financial impact for OP. She intended to use her own cash equivalent voucher towards her own meal, and being forced to share it out meant that an extra £10 went towards each of them other meals, and OP was then left to pay for her own meal on top of that, so it most definitely had a personal financial impact. I don’t see what difference it made to anyone else how OP paid for her own contribution - she had already provided a substantial discount for everyone else. Greedy of them to expect her to pay an extra tenner for each of them out of her own pocket.

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 13:30

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 12/12/2024 13:22

This voucher was cash equivalent as it was a work bonus. if the work
bonus had been given in cash would you still expect that to be shared?
Or a gift card?
it wasn’t a freebie voucher.

Oh come on. She got a voucher for getting 5* reviews. It’s not that she did more hours she was just nicer to the customers.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 12/12/2024 13:22

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 10:52

No I would not.

No-one has said she wasn’t entitled to use her voucher - she could have used it on her family on another occasion. A voucher is not cash.

This voucher was cash equivalent as it was a work bonus. if the work
bonus had been given in cash would you still expect that to be shared?
Or a gift card?
it wasn’t a freebie voucher.

Flopsy145 · 12/12/2024 12:49

Hotmess101 · 12/12/2024 11:38

Wow your friend is nice, she’s spent money to earn those Tesco vouchers and willingly hands them over to you for nothing on the regular? I hope you take it turns to do that/buy her an extra coffee to say thanks.

She is, she's a best friend and we're very close. She'll often say "I've got loads of Tesco vouchers who wants to go to pizza express?"
Similarly any of us who get vouchers will use them for the same purpose, and we often say to each other "I'll get your coffee what do you want."
No one person contributes more I would say, we just cover each other in different ways

Magnastorm · 12/12/2024 12:27

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 11:28

Good luck.

Good luck not being a cheeky fucker? Already manage that, thanks.

ShiningforLeeBertie · 12/12/2024 12:19

Apologies if I've misread or not understood, but you offered the voucher as a raffle prize, and you were given it for the school, but you used it at thr meal?

nightmarepickle2025 · 12/12/2024 12:12

I would have offered to share it in the first place unless I was really skint.

40YearOldDad · 12/12/2024 12:08

OP, you did nothing wrong; the person suggesting you use your £50 voucher to reduce the overall bill further is a vulture, plain and simple. It'd be like whipping out a £50 note and someone saying, "Oh, take that off the main bill—jokers."

And then they had you for a tip on top!

A few friends work for M&B, and if we dine there, we'd generally cover any tip on their behalf. We also try to tip on the before-discount price, as the server is the one who comes away with less if you dont,

Ludovico · 12/12/2024 12:00

They already had a 33% discount then they took your voucher.

What a bunch of cheeky cunts

Avoid - however I suspect you’ll be quite popular when it’s time to book a meal.

Avoid them OP

BobbyBiscuits · 12/12/2024 11:57

Could they be using you for vouchers and discounts? It seems a big coincidence they only wanted to hang out with you when you donated the voucher and they found out where you work.
To them they think, well, she gets it all for free anyway. I'd be very wary of their motives. Definitely no more trips to your workplace's Restaurants.

KrisAkabusi · 12/12/2024 11:51

Sheepchops · 12/12/2024 11:22

I would always use a voucher to reduce the bill for everyone - anything else seems tight

Using this example again. How is it tight?

Imagine two people go for dinner at £50 each. One has a voucher for £40 that she was going use but the other person insists it's used to split. She now only pays £30 for her meal, but the person with the voucher has spent £70! How is that fair? This is the exact same only spread around more people. And this is after she has already got them all a 30% discount!

Sonowimbackfromouterspace · 12/12/2024 11:42

Annabella92 · 12/12/2024 10:53

Ooh. Interesting way of looking at it!!

I never thought there was another way to look at it - it was a voucher she had earned. It was as good as cash.

mumda · 12/12/2024 11:40

I'd have saved the voucher for another time.
Too late now and it's unkind of them to be cheeky after they've had a big discount.

Hotmess101 · 12/12/2024 11:38

Flopsy145 · 11/12/2024 21:20

My friend gets Tesco vouchers as she does a lot of shopping there, we often meet at pizza express for dinner and she uses the vouchers to take £ off the total so we all pay less. If I ever have vouchers I would do the same so it's a cheaper night for all. So I think you did the right thing by not saying anything. Tbh I would feel a bit selfish just using it for my share but not sure why I would feel that way now I'm thinking about it.
However, was it not the voucher you were using for a raffle prize or is there a different voucher?
Also did they know you could get a discount at that specific place before inviting you, if so that's a bit CF behaviour.

The main thing is, if you get on with them and can see yourself building genuine friendships, then just let it lie and think no more on it. Use future vouchers if you want as it's a nice friendly gesture, but if you don't want to then I wouldn't just use it for yourself with this group until your familiar enough to voice that.

Wow your friend is nice, she’s spent money to earn those Tesco vouchers and willingly hands them over to you for nothing on the regular? I hope you take it turns to do that/buy her an extra coffee to say thanks.

Mirabai · 12/12/2024 11:28

Magnastorm · 12/12/2024 11:21

What part of "her's" don't you understand?

It was something she earnt. It's not a perk, she earnt it just like she earns her wages. If OP didn't turn up and do her job, she wouldn't have had it. Therefore, it's earnt.

If she wanted to share it, then that should have been up to her, not up to a bunch of people she barely knows. That's not being tight, that's just not rolling over to a bunch of cheeky arseholes taking advantage.

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Good luck.