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To worry about a stay and play?

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User100028 · 11/12/2024 19:20

I can’t make Dd’s stay and play tomorrow. I am worrying a lot that other adults are going to be in a room with my child who I have never met and have no reason to trust. My dd is only 2 so won’t be able to tell me anything. I’m also worried she will feel left out as a child there without her parents as we are working. I don’t understand why these things are acceptable? Am I missing something?

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Treesarenotforeating · 27/03/2025 07:33

@Fitzcarraldo353 It don’t make one bit of sense , maybe she wants just the kids there for ‘stay and play’ without adults that ‘ may’ come into contact with her child 🤷‍♂️

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 27/03/2025 07:25

I’ll be picking my kids up early to take them out of this situation. Inconveniencing my own work to do so, after I’ve paid for them to be CARED FOR!? I’ve signed for them not to leave the building for a reason, why would I be okay with 30+ random strangers coming into the building? Never in a million years will that be happening when I’m not around to protect them! No chance! Your feelings are valid mama, I promise! Xx

Why not just attend the stay and play? 🤷🏼‍♀️

Smallmercies · 27/03/2025 07:23

Your reasoning is a bit odd; the vast majority of sexual abuse is perpetrated by "trusted" adults. That's what is meant by grooming; they groom you into trusting them. Strangers are the least of your worries.

BallerinaRadio · 27/03/2025 07:22

So much nursery/school bashing on here lately, is it some sort of concerted AI campaign from Russia?

Because I refuse to believe that someone is posting that their child is in the same room as other people without a DBS check.

Another post where I just cannot believe it is it real.

Fitzcarraldo353 · 27/03/2025 07:16

I’ll be picking my kids up early to take them out of this situation. Inconveniencing my own work to do so, after I’ve paid for them to be CARED FOR!?

Wait @Mumof2toddlersx you're taking time off work to pick them up early and bring them home rather than just stay and accompany them at the stay and play? How does that make sense?

Treesarenotforeating · 27/03/2025 07:09

What are you worried about? The other parents will be focused on the room, exploring with their kids , staff will be explaining routines etc why are you paranoid about a dbs check that a normal parent wouldn’t have

Tilda86 · 27/03/2025 07:02

Mumof2toddlersx · 27/03/2025 01:40

I’ve literally made an account just to validate you, as I came looking for a thread with the exact same concerns. I’m hurt to see the way other mums have invalidated you, as you make complete sense and should always trust your gut! Being from Southport, after the attack, I cannot possibly leave my children in a room with 30+ extra random adults. How can I? Knowing the risk. I completely agree with you and disagree with this whole concept, I think it’s irresponsible, especially being in the middle of a day! For those saying “the staff will be there”…a handful of staff cannot possibly have their eyes over 30+ adults and 30+ children at the same time, at all times! It’s incredibly uncomfortable & I’ll be picking my kids up early to take them out of this situation. Inconveniencing my own work to do so, after I’ve paid for them to be CARED FOR!? I’ve signed for them not to leave the building for a reason, why would I be okay with 30+ random strangers coming into the building? Never in a million years will that be happening when I’m not around to protect them! No chance! Your feelings are valid mama, I promise! Xx

This is batshit crazy. Your child will not grow up to be a normal functioning member of society with this level of hysteria coming from his mother.

User5274959 · 27/03/2025 06:59

If you're that bothered then make arrangements to go yourself, taking half a day's leave if necessary.

Barbadosgirl · 27/03/2025 06:50

Mumof2toddlersx · 27/03/2025 01:40

I’ve literally made an account just to validate you, as I came looking for a thread with the exact same concerns. I’m hurt to see the way other mums have invalidated you, as you make complete sense and should always trust your gut! Being from Southport, after the attack, I cannot possibly leave my children in a room with 30+ extra random adults. How can I? Knowing the risk. I completely agree with you and disagree with this whole concept, I think it’s irresponsible, especially being in the middle of a day! For those saying “the staff will be there”…a handful of staff cannot possibly have their eyes over 30+ adults and 30+ children at the same time, at all times! It’s incredibly uncomfortable & I’ll be picking my kids up early to take them out of this situation. Inconveniencing my own work to do so, after I’ve paid for them to be CARED FOR!? I’ve signed for them not to leave the building for a reason, why would I be okay with 30+ random strangers coming into the building? Never in a million years will that be happening when I’m not around to protect them! No chance! Your feelings are valid mama, I promise! Xx

So you do not take your children anywhere they may encounter stranger adults? No softplay, swimming, park, zoo?

Moonnstars · 27/03/2025 06:33

Mumof2toddlersx · 27/03/2025 01:40

I’ve literally made an account just to validate you, as I came looking for a thread with the exact same concerns. I’m hurt to see the way other mums have invalidated you, as you make complete sense and should always trust your gut! Being from Southport, after the attack, I cannot possibly leave my children in a room with 30+ extra random adults. How can I? Knowing the risk. I completely agree with you and disagree with this whole concept, I think it’s irresponsible, especially being in the middle of a day! For those saying “the staff will be there”…a handful of staff cannot possibly have their eyes over 30+ adults and 30+ children at the same time, at all times! It’s incredibly uncomfortable & I’ll be picking my kids up early to take them out of this situation. Inconveniencing my own work to do so, after I’ve paid for them to be CARED FOR!? I’ve signed for them not to leave the building for a reason, why would I be okay with 30+ random strangers coming into the building? Never in a million years will that be happening when I’m not around to protect them! No chance! Your feelings are valid mama, I promise! Xx

Are you going to send your children to school? If so what are you going to do about school plays? These will have around 60+ parents at each show, so lots of different adults in the room.
I think you are being paranoid, these are parents of children invited in to see their children's learning. It isn't publicly advertised and the nursery will presumably have it's usual security measures (locked doors).

Mumof2toddlersx · 27/03/2025 01:40

I’ve literally made an account just to validate you, as I came looking for a thread with the exact same concerns. I’m hurt to see the way other mums have invalidated you, as you make complete sense and should always trust your gut! Being from Southport, after the attack, I cannot possibly leave my children in a room with 30+ extra random adults. How can I? Knowing the risk. I completely agree with you and disagree with this whole concept, I think it’s irresponsible, especially being in the middle of a day! For those saying “the staff will be there”…a handful of staff cannot possibly have their eyes over 30+ adults and 30+ children at the same time, at all times! It’s incredibly uncomfortable & I’ll be picking my kids up early to take them out of this situation. Inconveniencing my own work to do so, after I’ve paid for them to be CARED FOR!? I’ve signed for them not to leave the building for a reason, why would I be okay with 30+ random strangers coming into the building? Never in a million years will that be happening when I’m not around to protect them! No chance! Your feelings are valid mama, I promise! Xx

Pipconkermash · 12/12/2024 10:01

User100028 · 11/12/2024 19:32

@SometimesCalmPerson one person is very different to many additional people in the room

This really isn’t normal OP. I hope you are seeking support for this level of anxiety.

PoupeeGonflable · 12/12/2024 07:38

Mumistiredzzzz · 12/12/2024 07:10

Am I missing something?

Yes, common sense.

Thank you!

PoupeeGonflable · 12/12/2024 07:38

Omg!
All other parents are about to line up the children and send them to the child catcher, or sell them on FB as chimney sweeps or as boot boys. The girls will be lady's maids or pot washers.

Ellie1015 · 12/12/2024 07:34

It annoys me because my children are at nursery for childcare and i feel bad for missing these things. But eventually i learned many people couldnt make it.

I don't worry it is unsafe though. At our nursery the stay and play was for a particular group then another group another time. Surely they dont have space for 1 adult for every child at the same time?

Even if there was bad person in the room, in an hour with lots of people around they would never have any opportunity.

Stickseas0n · 12/12/2024 07:15

I went to my dds stay and play on Tuesday.
I do actually have a dbs check, not that I'd expect the staff or other parents to know that.
I had many children come to me who thought I was staff, I involved them in play with my own dd. I would be gutted that another parent would assume I'm some sort of danger.

tillylula · 12/12/2024 07:14

Literally none of them are there to see your child.. they are there to see their own, to stay and play with their own child..

Mumistiredzzzz · 12/12/2024 07:10

Am I missing something?

Yes, common sense.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 12/12/2024 07:05

What exactly do you think is going to happen
OP?

Of course it's an acceptable thing to offer - the staff know what they're doing.

BTW you only need a DBS id you have regular, unsupervised access to young or vulnerable people. This absolutely wouldn't count as that type of activity.
Not to mention the fact they aren't a completely reliable way of identifying a wrong un' 🤷🏼‍♀️

CautiousLurker01 · 12/12/2024 06:57

IMO you have two options:

  1. accept that this is happening, that the staff are DBSd and will have done a rigorous risk assessment and safety plan which includes not leaving guest parents alone, or
2 (your only option as all suggestions to do 1. are being batted away), you take the day off work and keep her home.
Neeenaaw · 12/12/2024 06:43

In terms of guilt over not going, I made huge effort to attend my 2 year olds stay and play at nursery this week despite it being a massive challenge to do for various things going on, because I was worried he’d be sad not having his mum there when the others were. I arrived late so when I was waiting for them to answer the door I could watch through the window. My child was happy as a pig in Pooh with a room full of other people to play with (even though some parents were actively avoiding interacting with other kids). There were several children without their parents there ans they were all unbothered.

I have no idea why you think it’s not acceptable though. The staff don’t leave the room and let the parents do whatever they want. On your theory you’d never attend any parent/child play sessions outside of nursery.

NoIdeaWhatsHappeningHere · 12/12/2024 06:40

YABVU and I suspect you wouldn't feel the same if you were able to attend.

Or would you refuse to go, on the basis that you don't have a DBS check and you'd be around stranger's children, potentially putting them at risk? 🤔

Littlemisscapable · 12/12/2024 06:32

Calm down. There is literally nothing to worry about.

PatchworkElmer · 12/12/2024 06:21

Sorry, I meant to add- what are you actually worried about? What do you think could happen? Is it that another parent might have unsupervised access to your DC?

PatchworkElmer · 12/12/2024 06:19

Have a word at drop off about supervision and how the session will work. If you’re anxious, tell them.

I do think YABU, but I can understand how you feel. I use annual leave to attend sessions like this at DC’s school and enjoy them, but I wouldn’t like the idea of a session happening with me not there. And I understand that not all jobs allow you to take leave in this way.

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