Marcus Fakana gets prison sentence in Dubai.

On a wider point, do you think anyone should be prosecuted if they commit a crime abroad? If the crime would not be a crime in the UK? Or not seen as seriously? Or would you say ' when in Rome'?

What does that have to do with my question?

Do you adhere to the misogynist trope that women / girls are the property of their families?

Do you view a 17 year old as the property of her family?

We don't only know from his family. The court case will have been public so news organisations would have access to information from the court case directly. I have only ever heard it reported as a consensual relationship.

Why are you calling her a “minor child”.

In the UK, where the mom was, the relationship was perfectly legal. So she saw texts that her of age child was in a relationship with a boy who was of a similar age (same school year but a couple of months older).

Why do you think this translates to concerns about a “minor child”?

People saying this 18 year old boy on holiday with his family should have looked up the laws on the age of consent need to remember their own youth I think! We did girls holidays to Benidorm, Malia and Ayia Napa and I couldn’t tell you the Spanish or Greek age of consent without googling it! This boy isn’t a rapist or a danger to women FFS he’s a daft teenage boy who had unadvisable sex with a teenage girl of similar age! A year in jail is very disproportionate.

I don't want him jailed.
But I don't have a problem with other countries jailing people from other countries for breaking their laws, even if those offences wouldn't be crimes in the UK. It is up to the people visiting the countries to be aware of local laws. Ignorance of the law can never be used an excuse.

And a year in prison isn't the end of the world. Whatever he was planning to do this year, Uni, or whatever, he can do a year later.

You literally said it’s not a British site It’s a London site. Well being a London site would make it a British site. Clearly you are very cleaver

Care to quote exactly where I said London was no longer considered a British city?

Please enlighten me, let’s see how cleaver you are without making up lies.

Care to quote exactly where I said London was no longer considered a British city?

Please enlighten me, let’s see how cleaver you are without making up lies.

People saying this 18 year old boy on holiday with his family should have looked up the laws on the age of consent need to remember their own youth I think! We did girls holidays to Benidorm, Malia and Ayia Napa and I couldn’t tell you the Spanish or Greek age of consent without googling it! This boy isn’t a rapist or a danger to women FFS he’s a daft teenage boy who had unadvisable sex with a teenage girl of similar age! A year in jail is very disproportionate.

I don't want him jailed.
But I don't have a problem with other countries jailing people from other countries for breaking their laws, even if those offences wouldn't be crimes in the UK. It is up to the people visiting the countries to be aware of local laws. Ignorance of the law can never be used an excuse.

And a year in prison isn't the end of the world. Whatever he was planning to do this year, Uni, or whatever, he can do a year later.

You tell me as I really need it explaining how a data centre hosted in different countries has anything to do with Mumsnet being a British based forum, evident from the discussions and references to our laws and practices being common place on those discussions. Whilst you are at it can you also tell me the date that London was no longer considered a British city?

Have you looked it up yet? just asking.

That has zero to do with the fact that it is a British based forum.

Do you not know how hosting works? 🙄

I asked about her being the property of her family and you chose to quote England and Wales legislation.

None of that legislation makes 17 years old the property of their family. Especially not when choosing who to date. Thus, your comment about him disrespecting her family (but not her disrespecting her own family) for embarking on a consensual relationship ship is asinine.

I am not interested in your childish ramblings and prefer to stick to conversing with the adults on the board.

Bye.

We have the most tech savvy teens ever. When I was their age, there was no internet, no computers, no phones that accessed instant information. If I wanted info I had to go to the library and hope I could find an answer. And despite that, we have young people who don't seem to think that other countries / cultures are different. Despite all the readily available info, they just can't be bothered to find out. And we live in a multi cultural country, and schools teach multiculturalism.
I knew when I was very young that things were different elsewhere. In other countries things are just different.

But they were not in the uk were they they were in Dubai, so your strawman reply fails at the first hurdle.

I don’t think anybody, let alone teens, bother looking up age of consent laws when they travel.

London is in Britain last time I checked or has it moved country!! I don't think where the data centres are based has anything to with anything.

You need to look up the meaning of the Straw Man fallacy and it is two separate words!