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Marcus Fakana gets prison sentence in Dubai.

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Ohnonotmeagain · 11/12/2024 13:56

This is the 18 year old lad who had a holiday romance with a 17 year old girl in Dubai. She was just short of 18.

her parents found out and reported him to the Dubai authorities before he returned home.

his poor parents aren’t well off and had to return home to work leaving him there.

he’s now been sentenced to 1 year in prison.

aibu to think this poor boy should never have been brought before court.

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shellyleppard · 11/12/2024 16:56

@stuckdownahole the point I'm making is he committed a crime. Therefore he needs to do the sentence. Yes Dubai portrays itself as a liberal country but visitors still need to abide by the rules. Simple

JHound · 11/12/2024 16:56

Ovalframes · 11/12/2024 16:54

I think the mother would still have reported him if he had been white and racism would still have been part of the motivation. I have recently been appalled by the reaction of a long standing friend (Asian) whose son (aged 35) has fallen in love with a white girl, lived together 5 years). She has had absolute screaming tantrums, has cut him off from the family, behaved dreadfully to the girl when he brought her to meet his family. It has really distressed me - my DH is Asian and I am white and we are both really questioning the friendship.

I would cut them off. Although I get when it’s a long friendship it may make you hesitate.

But my dealbreaker for who I will associate with is bigots.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/12/2024 16:56

Goldenbear · 11/12/2024 16:45

How does where she found out about it, change the cruelty of her actions, in fact she was back in London doesn't that make it worse.

Not knowing her I couldn't say, but it's being constantly claimed that she waited until they were back here so that the daughter wouldn't get arrested too and that doesn't seem to be borne out by the facts

Whether she should have reported it is something else again, but he's been clear that he knew she came from "a strict family", and that his own people knew about them but hers didn't
It might have been better if his own had been willing or able to warn him off, but either way it didn't happen and so here he is

Ovalframes · 11/12/2024 16:54

Realdeal1 · 11/12/2024 16:43

If this was a white boy / girl, the government would have stepped in.

I think the mother would still have reported him if he had been white and racism would still have been part of the motivation. I have recently been appalled by the reaction of a long standing friend (Asian) whose son (aged 35) has fallen in love with a white girl, lived together 5 years). She has had absolute screaming tantrums, has cut him off from the family, behaved dreadfully to the girl when he brought her to meet his family. It has really distressed me - my DH is Asian and I am white and we are both really questioning the friendship.

stuckdownahole · 11/12/2024 16:54

shellyleppard · 11/12/2024 16:20

He broke the law....now he's got to do the time. Simple. It's always been the way over there. I lived there as a young child in the 70's and I was always told don't argue with the police

He didn't argue with the police, and we are no longer in the 1970s (although from the tone of your post you might be), we are living in a time when Dubai tries very hard to promote itself as a tourist destination and liberal environment.

TheBestLackAllConviction · 11/12/2024 16:54

Realdeal1 · 11/12/2024 16:43

If this was a white boy / girl, the government would have stepped in.

And done what exactly? Sent a gunboat?

JHound · 11/12/2024 16:53

Thegoatliesdownonbroadway · 11/12/2024 16:51

When he comes back, I imagine he will be signing the sex offenders register.

Will he need to?

Genuine question but I thought that would only be relevant for people who commit sex crimes in the UK.

It would be weird to record people for illegal activity overseas that would be legal in the UK?

Thegoatliesdownonbroadway · 11/12/2024 16:51

NeedMorePlasters · 11/12/2024 16:23

There is so much rigidity of thought here that it stuns me. The PP who says he could have refused to go - he was on a family holiday. Of course he wouldn't have done that. Also, it's almost as if some of the posters on here were born middle aged and sitting on their high horses. Teens do shit like this - it's part of their boundary testing and completely normal. It means they make stupid decisions and take risks. That's what's contributed to this. The way some people are writing on this thread makes him out to be some some predatory sex offender. There's context and nuance here.

The mother of the girl is the true villain in this story. Controlling, calculating and probably deeply racist too.

I hope when he finally gets out he's OK and that the first thing that happens is that him and the girl get back together and live happily ever after. That will teach her mum a thing or two.

When he comes back, I imagine he will be signing the sex offenders register.

FuckILookLike · 11/12/2024 16:51

JHound · 11/12/2024 16:04

Everything I have read says the mother is from the UK and of South Asian descent which probably explains her extreme opposition to the relationship.

Yep

Sorshpans · 11/12/2024 16:50

stuckdownahole · 11/12/2024 14:40

It's incredibly depressing that some posters (although they may be simply wind up merchants) think that this is in any way fair or acceptable.

I know 🤦🏽‍♀️

Goldenbear · 11/12/2024 16:49

betterangels · 11/12/2024 16:45

Well, yes. Which is why people should have some common sense and stay away. It's not obligatory to holiday in Dubai.

I would never set foot in the place but you've totally missed my point

Iloveautumnwinterchristmas · 11/12/2024 16:49

Goldenbear · 11/12/2024 15:24

Even on this thread there is confusion, for example, the foreign office state no hand holding in public (is It even allowed in private 🙄), a poster said that is not true. What about Alcohol and the person who was arrested in Dubai on an Emirates flight after purchasing alcohol. It is really confusing, illogical and the best solution IMO is not to go at all!!

What on Earth are you going on about? No one has ever been arrested for drinking alcohol on an Emirates flight. The woman you're referring to was arrested at the airport after shouting and arguing with the immigration officer and filming the altercation. You never film or photograph any Emirati without their express permission,it's simply nor permitted. That's what got her arrested and she then concocted an absolute bullshit story that was shared on social media for guilible people to repeat as gospel. Regarding alcohol in Dubai,it's available in all tourist hotels apart from the odd 'dry' ones so that's very simple. Holding hands? I see it all the time in shopping malls etc and no one bothers. I've lived in the ME for more than a decade and have been to Dubai more times than I can count over the years. Don't believe everything you read.

TheLimeHedgehog · 11/12/2024 16:48

Realdeal1 · 11/12/2024 16:43

If this was a white boy / girl, the government would have stepped in.

Oh here we go Bingo. 🙄

Sorshpans · 11/12/2024 16:47

Ovalframes · 11/12/2024 16:47

I agree.

David Lammy is a disgrace!

Sorshpans · 11/12/2024 16:47

1WanderingWomble · 11/12/2024 14:00

I'm relieved it isn't longer. But yes it's a horrible story, I can't imagine what the girl's mum was thinking in reporting this (other than obviously being motivated by spite).

There’s rumours it’s a “cultural clash” shall we say.

They were Asian and supposedly didn’t want their daughter to be with a Black young man.

The funny thing is doing this has meant it’s more likely to get out in her community that she slept with a Black guy.

Ovalframes · 11/12/2024 16:47

Realdeal1 · 11/12/2024 16:43

If this was a white boy / girl, the government would have stepped in.

I agree.

betterangels · 11/12/2024 16:45

Goldenbear · 11/12/2024 16:20

What it has 'to do with it' is the profoundly different values that the UK has compared to this country. Can you not see that people are sickened by these Draconian laws and the plight that awaits this young person. So it has everything to do with it as it is morally shocking when considered alongside the UK values.

Well, yes. Which is why people should have some common sense and stay away. It's not obligatory to holiday in Dubai.

Goldenbear · 11/12/2024 16:45

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/12/2024 16:41

For all saying "the spiteful mother waited to report until they got home", wasn't it said that she didn't actually know about this until they returned?

Anyway by Dubai standards 1 year sounds on the low side for sentencing, so maybe he should just be glad it wasn't worse

Typo

@BefuddledCrumble the organisation who've been representing Marcus - the name escapes me now - said the girl was from a south asian family
Not that I expect her race to have made much difference to the sentence ...

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How does where she found out about it, change the cruelty of her actions, in fact she was back in London doesn't that make it worse.

Sorshpans · 11/12/2024 16:45

VisitationRights · 11/12/2024 13:58

I wish Dubai would just send him home, they gain nothing keeping him in jail. I really resent the family that reported this to authorities, they are disgusting.

Agree. I’m surprised the family name hasn’t been leaked. Disgusting people.

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/12/2024 16:44

My sympathies are with this lad and his family. I also feel sorry for the girl, imagine growing up with such a spiteful, vindictive mother.

NeedMorePlasters · 11/12/2024 16:44

Galatine · 11/12/2024 16:28

Would you feel the same if he’d seduced your underage daughter!

😂OMG - would you listen to yourself. Are you the mum?

FWIW and I know I shouldn't feed the haters but what if <gasp> she seduced him??

Anyway, this type of comment is exactly what I mean in my PP so clearly that had no impact. But oh my, there are some sanctimonious nutters.

Realdeal1 · 11/12/2024 16:43

If this was a white boy / girl, the government would have stepped in.

trivialMorning · 11/12/2024 16:43

I think MN has a huge issue with 18 year still in full time education and how they should be treated- technically adults but functionally often dependent children subject to parental rules worse I think if they attend school sixth forms rather than more adult environments.

Though reading on here London teens seem to get way more freedom than ones here routinely get and girl may have had very strict upbringing - so how worldly either was in extremely unclear.

I do agree I wouldn't take my teens male or female to Dubai or any gulf states - but not sure I'd look up every law and possible unexpected extreme outcomes when we do take them to other countries.

Laws do have cut off points - and these teens hit them - there was apparently some leeway that wasn't applied correctly though at same time 20 years was a possible outcome looking at BBC reports. It just seems an unfortunate situation all round.

Would you feel the same if he’d seduced your underage daughter!
The underage thing - at 17 nearly 18 under UK law the girl wasn't underaged in UK law but was in the country both teens were visiting with family and they didn't realise the difference or he didn't - though girls mother did.

I know rules differ over Europe but haven't checked as till now kids very unlikely to be interested in holiday romance as family holiday tend to be family time for us.

Ovalframes · 11/12/2024 16:43

WillowTree33 · 11/12/2024 16:31

Question wasn’t directed to me but um yes I would feel the same if it was fully consensual and my daughter was only a few months younger than him!

would you deliberately report an 18 year old to the authorities in a country where sending him to prison could result in torture, rape, deliberate infection with HIV? Making sure to wait until your errant daughter was safely back in the UK?
That isn't justice, it is revenge.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 11/12/2024 16:43

Sorry age of consent 18 rather