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Marcus Fakana gets prison sentence in Dubai.

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Ohnonotmeagain · 11/12/2024 13:56

This is the 18 year old lad who had a holiday romance with a 17 year old girl in Dubai. She was just short of 18.

her parents found out and reported him to the Dubai authorities before he returned home.

his poor parents aren’t well off and had to return home to work leaving him there.

he’s now been sentenced to 1 year in prison.

aibu to think this poor boy should never have been brought before court.

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SavingTheBestTillLast · 11/12/2024 19:52

JHound · 11/12/2024 19:47

I asked about the amputation of limbs.

Sharia Law is such a broad umbrella term but the amputation of limbs is very specific. Do they do that in the UAE?

Let me look it up.

Egads - they do. I am begging people to stop viewing Dubai as like Magaluf!

”In the 21st century, hudud, including amputationof limbs, is part of the legal systems of Afghanistan,[20] Brunei,[21] Iran, Mauritania,[22]Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates,[23]Yemen,[24] and northern part of Nigeria.”

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This from wiki

Marcus Fakana gets prison sentence in Dubai.
Marcus Fakana gets prison sentence in Dubai.
tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 11/12/2024 19:50

Fair point @DreamW3aver

JHound · 11/12/2024 19:47

Feelingathomenow · 11/12/2024 19:43

I asked about the amputation of limbs.

Sharia Law is such a broad umbrella term but the amputation of limbs is very specific. Do they do that in the UAE?

Let me look it up.

Egads - they do. I am begging people to stop viewing Dubai as like Magaluf!

”In the 21st century, hudud, including amputationof limbs, is part of the legal systems of Afghanistan,[20] Brunei,[21] Iran, Mauritania,[22]Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates,[23]Yemen,[24] and northern part of Nigeria.”

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 11/12/2024 19:47

@SavingTheBestTillLast
Quite. Knowing she may never have to look his mum in the eye probably made it easier though.

But I really hope one day she has to.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 11/12/2024 19:44

The again, it's not my thing to be having sex with someone I've only just met, or know less than a week, whatever.

//

Crikey, back in the day I had plenty of (safe) ONS ... what does that say about me? Grin

ButterMints · 11/12/2024 19:44

Bet some of the responses on here would be very different if it was an 18 year old girl with a 17 year old boy.

I hope the girl disowns her mother for being so spiteful.

Loisep · 11/12/2024 19:43

The authorities were purposefully duplicitous. They recorded the boy as Pakistani so he would be more harshly treated.

As someone who is half Indian, I regret ever contributing to Dubai’s economy when I visited. I will never visit the ME again.

I hope the poor boy doesn’t have one stupid transgression effect him in the long term.

Feelingathomenow · 11/12/2024 19:43

JHound · 11/12/2024 19:34

They amputate limbs in the UAE?

Sharia law is still applicable www.legalreader.com/sharia-law-and-the-uae-what-you-need-to-know/

Prescottdanni123 · 11/12/2024 19:41

The girl's mother was English. If they had met and slept together over here, there would be naff all that she could do. She deliberately set out to ruin that young man's life out of spite because she was in a country where she could. He was originally looking at 20 years in prison I believe? That is the sentence she was probably hoping for. I don't normally wish for people to be named and shamed but put of me hopes her name gets leaked. The other half of me doesn't purely because of her daughter who is another innocent in this.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 11/12/2024 19:41

Can posters stop making ludicrous so-called comparisons to other huge age gaps?! You look a bit silly

3 months off the age of consent with a young man of that age is a universe away from a 13 year old and a 35 year old , for example

SavingTheBestTillLast · 11/12/2024 19:39

JHound · 11/12/2024 19:26

Some people save up to go on holiday. Sometimes for years.

Even poor people.

@Tabbyandwhite
Currently on booking.com

I week in beach hotel for 3 people all inclusive flights and hotel £1250 ( next August)

There a sale on aswell where one week for three adults is less than £1000

I don’t think that’s expensive at all, another week is about £500 more.

JHound · 11/12/2024 19:34

Feelingathomenow · 11/12/2024 19:32

I think there’s many reasons people in the West find many of the laws of that area draconian, often misogynistic and bigoted. But of course it’s up to those countries what rules they have. Why the hell anyone would want to set foot in a country where sharia courts that still flogs people and amputates limbs god only knows. But westerners should just leave them to it.

They amputate limbs in the UAE?

Feelingathomenow · 11/12/2024 19:32

EmmaMaria · 11/12/2024 19:22

You have perhaps missed the point? According to "some" an "illegal immigrant who came off a "small boat" killed children in Southport. Instead of waiting for the truth - or anything approximating it, some British people took the law into their own hands and rioted, others took to social media to spread hate crime, and even this site wasn't immune. And their excuse was that Britain is too soft on "illegal" immigrants.

Amd I read enough threads on this site - plenty of people appalled by an 18 year old "man" with a 16 year old "child".

Just another excuse to bash "foreigners" for having laws we don't approve of.

I think there’s many reasons people in the West find many of the laws of that area draconian, often misogynistic and bigoted. But of course it’s up to those countries what rules they have. Why the hell anyone would want to set foot in a country where sharia courts that still flogs people and amputates limbs god only knows. But westerners should just leave them to it.

JHound · 11/12/2024 19:29

EmmaMaria · 11/12/2024 19:28

If you think it wouldn't you don't know what things are like now. 15 is under the age of consent. Full stop and no exceptions that the other person is only 16. Anger and hatred are becoming the norm. Facts no longer matter. After all, I wonder if mum would have cared so much if he wasn't black?

Ok yes you’re deluded.

I am positive his race prompted the mother’s behaviour and have said that openly. I just think your analogies are absurd.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 11/12/2024 19:29

It's a horrible story. Hopefully he will be out in a year and will be able to move on, he will have the support of the British public behind him. Given what we know about the girls family I suspect her fate is significantly worse. The parents obviously believe they own her and her body

EmmaMaria · 11/12/2024 19:28

JHound · 11/12/2024 19:25

I am comparing like with like.

Not the mass murder of a bunch of kids.

But let’s keep analogies comparable. The actual comparison would be a 16 year old foreign boy having sex with a 15 year old foreign girl in the UK.

Do you genuinely think that would lead to riots?

Also to be clear most people here seem to be bashing the mother who is a British national.

The “foreigner bashing” is in your head but people are allowed to criticise things they think are unjust - even foreign laws. Or do you think that any overseas law should be beyond critique - no exceptions?

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If you think it wouldn't you don't know what things are like now. 15 is under the age of consent. Full stop and no exceptions that the other person is only 16. Anger and hatred are becoming the norm. Facts no longer matter. After all, I wonder if mum would have cared so much if he wasn't black?

JHound · 11/12/2024 19:26

Tabbyandwhite · 11/12/2024 19:19

So he was an 18 year old adult male.

What he did was illegal in that country.

How did his parents afford a holiday in Dubai if they are poor, it's expensive there.

Oh he only got a year. Lesson learned I guess.

Some people save up to go on holiday. Sometimes for years.

Even poor people.

JHound · 11/12/2024 19:25

EmmaMaria · 11/12/2024 19:22

You have perhaps missed the point? According to "some" an "illegal immigrant who came off a "small boat" killed children in Southport. Instead of waiting for the truth - or anything approximating it, some British people took the law into their own hands and rioted, others took to social media to spread hate crime, and even this site wasn't immune. And their excuse was that Britain is too soft on "illegal" immigrants.

Amd I read enough threads on this site - plenty of people appalled by an 18 year old "man" with a 16 year old "child".

Just another excuse to bash "foreigners" for having laws we don't approve of.

I am comparing like with like.

Not the mass murder of a bunch of kids.

But let’s keep analogies comparable. The actual comparison would be a 16 year old foreign boy having sex with a 15 year old foreign girl in the UK.

Do you genuinely think that would lead to riots?

Also to be clear most people here seem to be bashing the mother who is a British national.

The “foreigner bashing” is in your head but people are allowed to criticise things they think are unjust - even foreign laws. Or do you think that any overseas law should be beyond critique - no exceptions?

EmmaMaria · 11/12/2024 19:24

Catofthesouth · 11/12/2024 19:22

He might have really upset the girl. She might have been in bits on the plane. How would her mum have known otherwise? I would not have told my mum about teenage indiscretions at 17. No way.

Her mum was sneaking on her phone after they returned. There is no evidence the young woman was upset. Not at him anyway, but I guess her mother may have to wait decades for her to trust her again. If ever.

SavingTheBestTillLast · 11/12/2024 19:24

Catofthesouth · 11/12/2024 19:22

He might have really upset the girl. She might have been in bits on the plane. How would her mum have known otherwise? I would not have told my mum about teenage indiscretions at 17. No way.

Her mum went through the daughters phone at home and found the messages between them.

JHound · 11/12/2024 19:23

Catofthesouth · 11/12/2024 19:22

He might have really upset the girl. She might have been in bits on the plane. How would her mum have known otherwise? I would not have told my mum about teenage indiscretions at 17. No way.

That’s not what happened though.The facts of the case have been reported and the girl and guy were very happy together.

The mother found photos and messages on her daughter’s phone and hit the roof.

JHound · 11/12/2024 19:22

deeahgwitch · 11/12/2024 19:16

I thought that too.

Just because you pull funds together for a family holiday does not mean you are wealthy enough to jet backward and forwards between Dubai and the UK. Nobody has any idea how long it took them to save for that.

Catofthesouth · 11/12/2024 19:22

He might have really upset the girl. She might have been in bits on the plane. How would her mum have known otherwise? I would not have told my mum about teenage indiscretions at 17. No way.

EmmaMaria · 11/12/2024 19:22

JHound · 11/12/2024 17:08

When have we rioted in the UK because two foreign teenagers, with a few months between them, had a consensual sexual relationship except one was 16 and the other a few months younger?

That said I agree the UAE authorities could not ignore their law being broken but I think them giving a 1 year sentence reflects what they feel about it (given he faced 20.)

The only villain in this story is the mother.

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You have perhaps missed the point? According to "some" an "illegal immigrant who came off a "small boat" killed children in Southport. Instead of waiting for the truth - or anything approximating it, some British people took the law into their own hands and rioted, others took to social media to spread hate crime, and even this site wasn't immune. And their excuse was that Britain is too soft on "illegal" immigrants.

Amd I read enough threads on this site - plenty of people appalled by an 18 year old "man" with a 16 year old "child".

Just another excuse to bash "foreigners" for having laws we don't approve of.

SavingTheBestTillLast · 11/12/2024 19:21

deeahgwitch · 11/12/2024 19:16

I thought that too.

From the papers at the time.
They saved for this one off holiday
His mum is a cleaner and dad works in a warehouse
also @ByMerryKoala

Marcus Fakana gets prison sentence in Dubai.