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Marcus Fakana gets prison sentence in Dubai.

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Ohnonotmeagain · 11/12/2024 13:56

This is the 18 year old lad who had a holiday romance with a 17 year old girl in Dubai. She was just short of 18.

her parents found out and reported him to the Dubai authorities before he returned home.

his poor parents aren’t well off and had to return home to work leaving him there.

he’s now been sentenced to 1 year in prison.

aibu to think this poor boy should never have been brought before court.

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JHound · 13/12/2024 16:33

beAsensible1 · 13/12/2024 12:13

they are being blamed for not sending hr back to her parents when she came around. If a 17 year old is sneaking around with your child in a foreign country and you find out, you send them back.

it is irresponsible.

Once again she is essentially the same age as their son. Why are they being irresponsible for not seeking to control a 17 year old who is dating their son?

Gogogo12345 · 13/12/2024 13:12

beAsensible1 · 13/12/2024 12:13

they are being blamed for not sending hr back to her parents when she came around. If a 17 year old is sneaking around with your child in a foreign country and you find out, you send them back.

it is irresponsible.

Hmm have you tried that with a 17 year old?

beAsensible1 · 13/12/2024 12:13

JHound · 12/12/2024 16:15

Why discernment from his parents when they are two teens of a similar age? Both on the cusp of adulthood?

Why are his parents being blamed for her choice?

they are being blamed for not sending hr back to her parents when she came around. If a 17 year old is sneaking around with your child in a foreign country and you find out, you send them back.

it is irresponsible.

Grammarnut · 13/12/2024 09:01

JackGrealishsCalves · 12/12/2024 22:14

Seriously, he was 18 on holiday with his parents.
He met another UK girl who was nearly 18.
I know ignorance is no defence but you sound like he should have been fully versed on UAE law for sex? Seriously??
How many 18 year olds on holiday with their parents thinks to look up sex laws in UAE.
For the record the girl didn't care about them/wasn't aware of them

And had a stupid, vindictive mother, by the sounds of it. An 18-year-old is an adult. If you go somewhere with restrictive laws then knowing about the ones you might breach, at 18, is a good idea.

Loisep · 12/12/2024 22:29

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I actually do have a cousin married to a black-British guy. He is accepted but I do think families which are more conservative (mine is not) would be less tolerant. My parents had an interfaith marriage in the 90s so no one bats an eyelid these days.

JackGrealishsCalves · 12/12/2024 22:14

Grammarnut · 11/12/2024 15:48

If you visit a country you must abide by its laws. He should not have embarked on a romance with an under age girl and must take the consequences. His parents could ask the Foreign Office to request the young man's return to serve his sentence in the UK - though I am not sure that would be any better.
What happened, however, is also a warning about visiting countries with retarded laws - never visit Dubai, or anywhere like it.

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Seriously, he was 18 on holiday with his parents.
He met another UK girl who was nearly 18.
I know ignorance is no defence but you sound like he should have been fully versed on UAE law for sex? Seriously??
How many 18 year olds on holiday with their parents thinks to look up sex laws in UAE.
For the record the girl didn't care about them/wasn't aware of them

CarefulN0w · 12/12/2024 22:08

^I think the girl should have had to go to Dubai for the court case.
Then they could be tried alongside each other^

I agree. The despicable mother might not have been in such a rush to report her daughter's consensual partner for having sex while being black.

Swedishdeathcleaning · 12/12/2024 22:04

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Feelingathomenow · 12/12/2024 20:27

Jesus- I can remember going to the Maldives and sweating when my bag was swabbed recalling my the boyfriend rolling a joint on it in Amsterdam.

my husband once got quickly questioned at an airport after they found traces of explosives on his trainers but the said he had most likely picked something up on the street.

I think it’s about time the UK government warned against trips to Dubai.

Coolasfeck · 12/12/2024 20:27

Fuck that. Why would anyone ever go that country??!

Coolasfeck · 12/12/2024 20:26

Not a chance in hell would I ever go to that country. They pay influencers to pretend it’s a great place but no. I can buy nice things in sane countries.

Oh, and fuck you to the girls mother. What kind of evil must run through her heart to do that to someone’s child? I hope she can’t sleep through guilt and karma kicks her on the arse.

Sorshpans · 12/12/2024 20:15

Feelingathomenow · 12/12/2024 20:14

What the hell? Is that actually real re the speck of dope on a persons sole?

unfortunately yes!

www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/briton-jailed-for-four-years-in-dubai-after-customs-find-cannabis-weighing-less-than-a-grain-of-sugar-under-his-shoe-7294426.html

Feelingathomenow · 12/12/2024 20:14

Sorshpans · 12/12/2024 20:10

I question the parents or young man’s choice to use media and racism to try to influence the Dubai legal system.

Many people use the media in these situations and in some cases there had been a “positive” outcome - although I can’t say for sure if it was directly related to the media , government intervention or something else.

I don’t know if they mentioned racism but it is being discussed online simply because everyone knows it might play a role. Why shouldn’t it be mentioned??

I do suspect racism might play a role. They treat migrant workers from predominantly black and Asian countries very poorly - it was allegedly noted on his record that he was Pakistani in order that he may receive the worst treatment which shows their hierarchy.

So it’s not a stretch to see how this prejudice could extend to harsher treatment of Black and South Asian people even if they’re of western backgrounds. Anti-Blackness is a common feature of many Arab cultures as well.

Interestingly I just looked up the case involving the man who had a speck of weed found on his sole and was jailed for 4 years, - he was a Black British man! I’m not sure if he had to serve the full sentence. Have googled but can’t see anything more except his initial sentence. Does anyone know?

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What the hell? Is that actually real re the speck of dope on a persons sole?

Sorshpans · 12/12/2024 20:10

Slooodie359 · 12/12/2024 19:59

I question the parents or young man’s choice to use media and racism to try to influence the Dubai legal system.

Dubai was never going to allow him to be acquitted or not guilty. He was likely always going to get 6 mos to a year. I base this on my familiarity with another young man( a “white” boy & very similar circumstance. His name is not public, and think it’s lucky for him. )

Marcus’ name & face is out there forever … the little schoolboy photo …. It will be difficult to put this in the past. Employers might just choose to not hire.

IMO - making him a public figure for breaking law in another country, no matter how different law is from UK, was a mistake. Dubai was never going to make an exception for him, to set a precedent. The current law was made in 2022, Dubai clearly made careful considerations for this recently changed law, were not going to make an exception.

I question the parents or young man’s choice to use media and racism to try to influence the Dubai legal system.

Many people use the media in these situations and in some cases there had been a “positive” outcome - although I can’t say for sure if it was directly related to the media , government intervention or something else.

I don’t know if they mentioned racism but it is being discussed online simply because everyone knows it might play a role. Why shouldn’t it be mentioned??

I do suspect racism might play a role. They treat migrant workers from predominantly black and Asian countries very poorly - it was allegedly noted on his record that he was Pakistani in order that he may receive the worst treatment which shows their hierarchy.

So it’s not a stretch to see how this prejudice could extend to harsher treatment of Black and South Asian people even if they’re of western backgrounds. Anti-Blackness is a common feature of many Arab cultures as well.

Interestingly I just looked up the case involving the man who had a speck of weed found on his sole and was jailed for 4 years, - he was a Black British man! I’m not sure if he had to serve the full sentence. Have googled but can’t see anything more except his initial sentence. Does anyone know?

Xenia · 12/12/2024 20:03

I went away with one of my sons last month and I had to tell him all kinds of things like it is illegal to wear camouflage trousers or jacket there. It can be complicated going abroad.

Some laws in the Uk are unfair too - we are not perfect here but I certainly agree with people on this thread who are basically say you you CAN have objective morally and legally better laws than some other countries do and it is not all relative. English law is better than a bunch of other places abroad including Dubai

Slooodie359 · 12/12/2024 19:59

I question the parents or young man’s choice to use media and racism to try to influence the Dubai legal system.

Dubai was never going to allow him to be acquitted or not guilty. He was likely always going to get 6 mos to a year. I base this on my familiarity with another young man( a “white” boy & very similar circumstance. His name is not public, and think it’s lucky for him. )

Marcus’ name & face is out there forever … the little schoolboy photo …. It will be difficult to put this in the past. Employers might just choose to not hire.

IMO - making him a public figure for breaking law in another country, no matter how different law is from UK, was a mistake. Dubai was never going to make an exception for him, to set a precedent. The current law was made in 2022, Dubai clearly made careful considerations for this recently changed law, were not going to make an exception.

bombastix · 12/12/2024 18:29

You can feel sorry for him - but he is an adult and he broke the law in another country. Dubai is a repressive place, not a playground where you can do everything you can in the UK but pay no tax.

WilfredsPies · 12/12/2024 18:25

I feel so sorry for him and his family. Yes, they were insane for going to a country where you can be detained and imprisoned for looking sideways at the wrong person, but he’s eighteen. Have a look at your own eighteen year olds; would you trust any of them to research laws and local customs and culture before going off on holiday with their mates? Eighteen year olds aren’t known for their forward planning, research and critical thinking skills. And even if he’d known it was against the law, it would be a very unusual teenager who would have stopped in case he ended up in prison.

The girl’s mother should be ashamed of herself. If he’d hurt her daughter, then fair enough, throw the book at him. But to risk his safety for something completely consensual and legal in the country she lived in was a wicked thing to do.

Goldenbear · 12/12/2024 18:09

Grammarnut · 12/12/2024 09:23

Yes, there is. Someone on here said it was the people trafficking in Dubai that upset her, rather than the prostitutes themselves, because they were forced. But economic need is as much a state of being forced as any other. I don't think many MNters would recommend a career as a prostitute. It is what it is - not saying what it is gives a veneer of acceptability. Prostitution is misogynistic, it is about selling bits of your body for someone else to use. It demeans all women and treats women as things, as does the pornography industry. Call it what it is.
Don't gloss over it.

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That still doesn't change the fact that everyone knows what prostitution involves, we don't need vulgar references to, 'holes'!

Goldenbear · 12/12/2024 18:04

Daddydog · 12/12/2024 17:25

My wife worked with that guy. He didn't show up for work one day and no one knew why. Turned out he was passing through the airport, swabbed him and they found a tiny crumb of weed within the tread of his shoe. He had been to a party the night before and had trodden in it. They threw the book at him. You can get arrested for carrying ibuprofen like the US navy vet who in September faces 3 years for having ibuprofen and prescription CBD oil in his luggage for a degenerative joint disease.

What 😧!

Janiie · 12/12/2024 17:36

Anyone going to Dubai on holiday must tell their travel companions that under the veneer of western extravagance it is basically an unpleasant, strict country and it's archaic laws reflect that. It isn't Magaluf where anything goes.

Feel sorry for this boy but someone should've told him yes the malls and hotels are all lovely but always, always be on your best behaviour.

Daddydog · 12/12/2024 17:25

Comtesse · 12/12/2024 16:26

Don’t go on holiday to Dubai I guess. I went once for work, it felt safe sure but so many legal pitfalls.

Remember when the guy was sentenced to 4 years because there was a speck of cannabis stuck to the bottom of his shoe? Something smaller than a grain of sugar sent him to prison (they did let him out early but still….). That could happen to anyone.

The kid has been very unlucky - I find it bizarre that Dubai is seen as a fun tourist destination.

My wife worked with that guy. He didn't show up for work one day and no one knew why. Turned out he was passing through the airport, swabbed him and they found a tiny crumb of weed within the tread of his shoe. He had been to a party the night before and had trodden in it. They threw the book at him. You can get arrested for carrying ibuprofen like the US navy vet who in September faces 3 years for having ibuprofen and prescription CBD oil in his luggage for a degenerative joint disease.

OonaStubbs · 12/12/2024 16:45

He is lucky to only get a year. When you travel to foreign countries you have to respect their laws and customs.

BootballJoy · 12/12/2024 16:34

GoBackToTheStart · 11/12/2024 14:49

Imagine if some foreign teenager had sex with a British child of 15. Do you really think the British authorities, let alone the Press, would just let them off?

The girl is from London. It's more like a 15 year old and 16 year old from a country where the age of consent is 15 coming to Britain for a holiday and having sex.

And in neither scenario would the British authorities or Press be remotely interested.

Sorshpans · 12/12/2024 16:30

Remember when the guy was sentenced to 4 years because there was a speck of cannabis stuck to the bottom of his shoe? Something smaller than a grain of sugar sent him to prison (they did let him out early but still….). That could happen to anyone

See this is what grinds my gear. You get all kinds of sex trafficking and abuse of migrant workers but then they act all sanctimonious and apply the law randomly and punitively when stuff like this happens.

And yes that could happen to anyone. I’ve never taken drugs in my life, and I don’t even smoke or drink but these things can happen to anyone ! I was coming from back to London from abroad once as a teen and someone stuck a tiny sachet of white powder in my suitcase.

To this day I don’t know who it was or exactly where/why it happened but I’m just thankfully it wasn’t detected in the airport . I showed it to my more “experienced” friends who said it was drugs. It was such a small amount but I suspect in Dubai they’d have come down hard on me unless I’m related to some kind of royalty /super rich.