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To feel uncomfortable with this message exchange

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Notjustmeah · 11/12/2024 10:35

My DP and I have been together for 2 years, we are expecting our first baby.
Generally life is good for us, he has one friend, wouldn't say they are very close as she lives in London, but they have been friends since they were teens. She's literally drop dead gorgeous, tall, skinny with abs, great figure etc.
For the whole time we've been together she's been in a relationship, so I've not really thought too hard about her, and like I said she's in London so he only sees her a few times a year when she comes up.
Now she's going through a break up and the guy cheated on her and she's is devastated. She's been messaging DP a lot more and he makes a lot of time to talk to her.
Last night he was up messaging her until gone 3am, almost 4. I had a feeling something was off, he never messages her for that long. This morning I decided to have a look while he was still sleeping, I know, I know I shouldn't have but it was really bothering me.
These messages have bothered me.

"I don't get why anyone would cheat on you, you're literally like Angelina Jolie and Kiera Knightley combined"

Then in a convo about how crap men are he was like I don't get how it's so hard to be a good guy. He then said
"If I learn how to clone you can have another me?" She replied "omg yes please that's a need"

This feels like he was saying he'd date her and her saying the same back?

The last one was from her where after he complained about my family being too money focused and not liking him she said
"They are shallow, I'd give all the money in the world for a guy like you"

AIBU to feel weird about these? He comments quite a lot about how gorgeous she is and he's going to London this weekend to party with her, so I might be being paranoid.

OP posts:
NantesElephant · 12/12/2024 08:42

I am usually fairly relaxed about these things, but you do need to act on this one. Sorry you’re having to deal with this. 💐

When you said they had been messaging at 3am, my first thought was that she couldn’t sleep and might be suicidal, in which case, a good friend would definitely be supportively messaging in response. But it wasn’t that vibe at all.

Therealjudgejudy · 12/12/2024 08:41

He has crossed the line

I wouldnt be putting up with that

ButterCrackers · 12/12/2024 08:39

This is unacceptable. Tell him that he’ll be a father soon. Tell her to back off. If you split she’ll be dealing with being a step mother with shared care. That should put a stop to her getting her claws into your dh. Tell him that if he doesn’t stop by this he’ll be a single dad all because of this idiot woman.

ThatCoralShark · 12/12/2024 08:34

Clearly flirting with each other. Sorry op.

Annabella92 · 12/12/2024 08:31

Catza · 11/12/2024 11:14

I don't know what to tell you. I have a very close friend, he is like a brother to me. He is genuinely the nicest man I know and I feel 100% comfortable to say anything to him. When I had a breakup, we also talked for several days and yes, he would absolutely tell me similar things, trying to prop up my self esteem. And at the time, the idea of having his clone by my side would have seemed very appealing. Not because I fancy him but because I feel he is the closest the most supportive person I have and gives me a great comfort knowing he is in my life. Things get blow up out of proportion at vulnerable times and I would try my best not to read too much into it.
Incidentally, this is why I have a policy of never looking at anyone's phone and never letting anyone look at mine. Not because I think there is anything to hide but because I know how strong confirmation bias can be.

Your post missed out the bit where you explain how you know he wouldn't have cheated on his partner with you?

KirstenBlest · 11/12/2024 15:27

@ItGhoul , you told a close friend he looked hot, not told him he was giving you fanny-gallops. There's a difference.

ItGhoul · 11/12/2024 15:17

It's pretty difficult to say as it depends so much on the whole dynamic between them.

I told a (single) male friend on Facebook that he looked hot in a shirtless photo yesterday. I'm blissfully happy with my partner of 21 years, and have no interest in any kind of relationship with my friend. Neither would my friend ever want a relationship with me. But my friend's been having a shit time lately and has been pretty down, and related to that he's had some pretty significant insecurities about his appearance/body image and about his current single status (long story but he's been treated badly in the past). He looked great in the photo and it wouldn't even occur to me not to compliment any friend who looked great, especially one who I knew was feeling a bit shit about themselves, whether they were male or female. My partner wouldn't think anything of this at all; it wouldn't even register with him as a potential issue.

However, my partner also knows the general dynamic I have with my friends and that I'm pretty open with compliments etc, and he also knows I have lots of male friends; he has more female friends than male ones too, I'd say. I'm sure he might feel differently if I had one special male friend and was talking about cloning myself to provide a partner for him, or if there was a generally different vibe to my friendships. I think only you really know what your instincts are telling you, and why.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 11/12/2024 15:10

The first message was ok in my view but the others weren't. I'm sorry that you're having to deal with this, OP.

Her size, shape and appearance are distracting in your post - it's your partner's behaviour and messaging towards her (and her to him) that are off.

Bollihobs · 11/12/2024 14:59

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 11/12/2024 14:27

Sounds like you're his plan b and his plan a just became available.

Yep, this. As far as he's concerned it'll be game on at this party.

As for what to do, well, nothing's happened yet AFAYK so.......you could just invite yourself to the party, his reaction to that will be interesting.

At best he's been thoughtless and inappropriate and allowed himself to get carried away with a fantasy that in reality is not what he would actually choose. At worst he's all out going for it.

Havingaswimmoose · 11/12/2024 14:48

Partying in London?
Get his reaction to you going to the same venues.

Well surely OP this suddenly has become your favourite thing to do. Tell him you're up for that.
Lovely to party on before the baby restricts those opportunities.

You're definitely going with him right?
Obviously he's assuming you aren't.
Time to put him right.

HebburnPokemon · 11/12/2024 14:43

I’d be having a serious conversation with him.

How pregnant are you? Was baby planned?

Do you think he could have “settled” with you because his “friend” was unavailable at the time? (Sorry, I know it’s a tough Q but I’ve seen this play out irl and it did not end well).

NiftyKoala · 11/12/2024 14:28

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 11/12/2024 14:27

Sounds like you're his plan b and his plan a just became available.

Sadly I agree. OP get out. The trust is gone and will not be back. You deserve better and it's out there for you.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 11/12/2024 14:27

Sounds like you're his plan b and his plan a just became available.

ginasevern · 11/12/2024 14:06

Let him go "partying in London" and tell him to stay the fuck there whilst he's at it.

Sartre · 11/12/2024 14:04

They have admitted they’re attracted to one another. He’s trying to justify why she shouldn’t have been cheated on by likening her to two Hollywood starlets and she’s admitting she would accept a clone of him as a boyfriend. Staying up until 3am messaging a friend is nuts anyway, unless said friend is in some sort of mental health crisis but she has been cheated on, it’s shitty but not the end of the world.

Definitely confront him about this.

PureBoggin · 11/12/2024 13:58

My husband has a good female friend from school. They would NEVER message each other like this. I have male friends...I would NEVER message them like this. You KNOW this is inappropriate. He simply wouldn't give an unattractive, make friend anywhere near this level of attention and support if they broke up with a partner.

tothelefttotheleft · 11/12/2024 13:51

What man stays up until nearly 4 am talking to a friend about their break up?

Like another poster said if this was a male friend none of this would have happened.

Curtainqueen · 11/12/2024 13:49

See on a surface level, and I think because they've known eachother so long it alters what would be considered normal boundary dynamics between friends, he seemed to be suggesting he would be ideal cloned because he's not the sort to cheat and she seems in turn to be recognising that he is indeed not the sort to cheat so a clone of him would be perfect. Most people might be tempted to comment if they thought it wouldn't get back to anyone that someone money driven may be shallow so I wouldn't take too much notice of that one.

Starlight1979 · 11/12/2024 13:46

KirstenBlest · 11/12/2024 11:00

It's the damsel-in-distress scenario. The safe female friend is now single and in need of rescuing, so he's like a ferret down a drainpipe.

They've overstepped the mark and it needs nipping in the bud.

This. Seen it so many times before. Chances are she doesn't even fancy him, just feels sad and lonely after her break-up (especially this close to Christmas), knows he's a "good" guy and wants the attention from him.

His head will be swelling with all the compliments thinking he can be her knight in shining armour, not realising she's just gone for the easy option of a good friend to boost her self esteem.

sprigatito · 11/12/2024 13:45

It sounds like he has had a yen for her for a while but didn't think he had a chance because she was attached. Now she isn't, but he is...he's putting out feelers and hedging his bets. I know it's easier said than done and it's the worst possible time for you, but I would be making plans to split. You can't trust him.

SuperfluousHen · 11/12/2024 13:44

Megifer · 11/12/2024 11:23

They are both testing the waters, and both clearly up for it.

I'd take pics of the messages, but would have a chat later saying something like you know you might be paranoid - pregnancy hormones etc - but him messaging til 4am is bugging you a bit, what were they chatting about til that time?

If he doesn't immediately offer to show you to put your mind at rest then you have your answer.

This, OP.

if he doesn’t show you the phone immediately I think you have your answer.

I would tell him you need him to be with you this weekend as you’re feeling vulnerable (which you are). See if he chooses to support you or go to the party with her.

Codlingmoths · 11/12/2024 13:41

I think you should talk to him before going. Say I’m not actually comfortable with you heading away to party with someone you clearly think is super gorgeous (you can just say it’s obvious in the way he talks to and about her if he asks, not admit you looked at his phone), leaving me here pregnant. There’s a risk to this scenario and I need to make it clear that you’re drunk won’t be any kind of excuse if something happened, and I’m too pregnant to feel forgiving. I don’t care if someone slips hard drugs into your drink, just remember there are no acceptable excuses and don’t get up to anything you wouldn’t do right in front of me.

see if he looks uncomfortable.

ellebelli · 11/12/2024 13:39

I don't think anyone can truly know how these two friends really feel about each other.
However I do not think meeting up whilst emotions are high(hers) and adding alcohol into the mix is a good idea.
If he goes you will always be wondering if something happened.

oopsupsideyourheadisayoopsupsideypurhead · 11/12/2024 13:37

I have no doubt if he goes to see her this weekend they'll be shagging!

bigkidatheart · 11/12/2024 13:36

that's serious flirting there, have they ever had a 'thing'?

either way he is going to be pissed you went through his phone

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