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He doesn’t see I’m more tired

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Chronicallytired · 11/12/2024 09:16

Before having a baby I discussed my worries about having chronic fatigue from a few oF my illnesses. Before I was pregnant I would sleep long stretch at night and often nap in the day. I would sometimes fall asleep anywhere like the car cinema on a friends sofa at my mil house. I would just wake up and realise I had nodded off embarrassingly. He reassured me that it would be ok.that he would be helping etc. my partner does help with the nights and we do half each but I’m exhausted I can’t sleep during the day either as baby won’t nap very well. Unless in the pram walking or laying on me. Last week I accidentally fell asleep with baby on me as he was napping I woke up really shaken and upset luckily my sister popped over but she works can’t always help. Partner sees our tiredness as the same if he’s tired it’s the same as if I’m tired. It’s really bugging me that he won’t except that I’m more tired than him. The lack of sleep is making me grumpy and struggle during the day as by the afternoon I’m having to power through. My partner works full time but is home a lot to help but not enough for me to sleep. Baby is also going through a screaming phase so napping at home isn’t peaceful. I feel really stupid for having a baby I wouldn’t change him for a thing though and couldn’t imagine my life with out him. I’m thinking of ways I could nap and thinking maybe a mothers help a few afternoons a week is this something they would do.

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WonderingWanda · 11/12/2024 19:27

I sympathise with you but firstly this sounds very normal even without the chronic conditions. I was overwhelmed, exhausted falling asleep feeding baby, feelings of envy and 'oh my god what have I done' etc etc. Dh tried to do lots to help but also had a ft time job and needed to function mentally for that as well. I would suggest to some excellent ear plugs so you can sleep when dh is home and looking after the baby. Maybe consider nursery for one or two days a week to give you a break.n

ThisAquaCrow · 11/12/2024 18:07

Your husband is doing his fair share. If you are struggling to manage you need to employ help.

Once your baby is past the napping in the day stage you’re going to have to find ways to manage whether that’s by employing help at home or looking at a nursery placement.

What are you doing to manage your CFS? If you need more support with that, you should ask for referral to a specialist service.

standardduck · 11/12/2024 17:53

Chronicallytired · 11/12/2024 16:40

The plan was that he has his hobby and I have mine I’m so exhausted and unwell at times I just want to rot in bed for 1.5 hours instead of going out in the evenings for a hobby I don’t have. We agreed I would have my 1.5 hours twice a week too and that I could rest but baby cries non stop in the evenings and I can’t sleep even with ear plugs. Have suggested he go out but he’s saying that I should be going out not him and baby so I don’t get a break as I can’t ignore my crying baby. I even said make my 15 hours the weekend instead so that you can take him during the day not at night. He says he can’t take baby out in the dark.

To be fair it sounds like he is doing a fair bit while working full time. I can imagine you are both tired!

It's okay if you are not coping though and you need to find some alternatives. Get mothers help if you can afford it.

I don't think sending him out in the dark with the baby is a solution.

What chronic health conditions do you have? Maybe someone will have some more tailored advice.

Having a baby is so tough and sleep deprivation is awful - my toddler is 18 months old and still doesn't sleep through the night and wakes up a lot, so I understand how tired you feel. But it is a phase and it will pass (I hope Grin). In the meantime, try to outsource as much help as you can afford.

Overthebow · 11/12/2024 17:25

You have a baby, you do half the nights each, you’re both tired. I don’t think you can say you’re more tired than him as you don’t know. It sounds like he’s already doing a lot of he’s doing half the nights, helping out other times and working. Yes, having a baby is tiring. Get the mothers help if you think you need it.

HooMoo · 11/12/2024 17:16

It’s not a competition your partner’s tiredness is just as valid as your tiredness. Having a baby is tiring.

stichguru · 11/12/2024 17:07

Unless baby is comfier out, then baby should be home. If your husband works full time then he will need to sleep at night. Unless baby is not sleeping at all, why can't you nap when baby naps? I know it's right weird but babies don't really have a day/night cycle. Assuming you aren't working or looking after older children, surely you can go with baby's wake/sleep cycles. Husband can't if he has work hours which don't fit.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 11/12/2024 17:01

I think the main thing here is that you don't have any more children regardless what assurances your DP gives, and you just focus on surviving the next few years until your baby is going to nursery and you can rest more.

We don't know what health conditions you have but it sounds as if your DP pulls his weight and realistically you just don't have the energy to deal with the inevitable demands of parenthood.

Gatecrashermum · 11/12/2024 16:57

OP, as a new mother with chronic fatigue and chronic pain:

Get a mother's helper, at least 2-3 mornings a week. I have mine 4 mornings. I hand her the baby and go to bed and sleep. I would not survive without that time, even with an involved husband.

As others have said its not about who is more tired. It is about what you need. I've read your posts and I'm not quite sure why you can't just leave your baby with your husband even if he is crying. Your baby is safe with his dad. You don't need to step in. You need to let go when you get given a break.

I'd strongly encourage you to make time and energy for your hobby. You need to fill your cup with more than just sleep. Make sure you are still seeing friends (with or without baby). I find seeing friends and doing something fun gives me energy. Even if its just baby cinema on a Wednesday.

Go for a short walk every day and try and see some nature

Take your painkillers - being in pain will wipe you out. Taking the right painkillers will give you energy eventually. Talk to your GP if you need to change prescription.

You are sounding a bit burnt out. Can you talk to your health visitor or GP about how you are managing? It's hard having a baby and health issues. Also your hormones will be crashing al over the place. I had a terrible 2 weeks 12-14 weeks after giving birth where I was incredibly low. Your hormones take 2 full years to settle after childbirth.

It is an amazing and exhausting thing to carry and give birth to and care for a baby. Be kind to yourself xxx

Mumistiredzzzz · 11/12/2024 16:54

I’m also resentful to the fact he rings me or I ring him and he’s sat alone in the office having his lunch and watching the football when I’m holding a crying baby who won’t let me eat a sandwich for 5 seconds

Sounds harsh but that's your problem, what's he supposed to do, give up his job because you're finding it harder than you thought?

Mrsttcno1 · 11/12/2024 16:51

DaftyLass · 11/12/2024 16:48

What the fuck, is he afraid of the dark? Does he know that in Nordic countries, it's dark half the damn time?
If he is afraid, you can get a set of string lights that go around the buggy so it's lit up, cars can see him, and it might interest the baby too!
You need your sleep, it needs to be quiet, so he needs to grow up and take the baby out, even if the baby cries a bit.

See no I really disagree with this, he’s working full time and doing half the nights, he doesn’t have to also spend an hour and a half after work wandering around in the dark and cold pushing a buggy. I wouldn’t agree to do that every time either and neither would my husband.

TitaniasAss · 11/12/2024 16:50

I appreciate you've said your iron levels are low (I assume you do something about that) but what chronic illnesses is it that you have that mean you fall asleep during the day without trying?

DaftyLass · 11/12/2024 16:48

What the fuck, is he afraid of the dark? Does he know that in Nordic countries, it's dark half the damn time?
If he is afraid, you can get a set of string lights that go around the buggy so it's lit up, cars can see him, and it might interest the baby too!
You need your sleep, it needs to be quiet, so he needs to grow up and take the baby out, even if the baby cries a bit.

Mrsttcno1 · 11/12/2024 16:46

See I do think it’s a bit unreasonable to expect him to go out with the baby after work every time, but he can look after baby in the house while you have your break upstairs or out of the house.

If my husband was telling me to take the baby out on an evening after I’ve been out all day at work I’d say no, maybe from time to time yes but it’s cold, dark, yeah I could take my baby for a walk for an hour and a half or to the shops at night but I don’t want to and especially if I’d been out at work all day I wouldn’t be doing that.

AnneLovesGilbert · 11/12/2024 16:46

OP, why is your baby crying so much? You haven’t said how old they are, is it wind, reflux, teething?

AnneLovesGilbert · 11/12/2024 16:43

coxesorangepippin · 11/12/2024 14:02

He does.

He just doesn't care.

Because it's easier for HIM if YOU do it all.

No, you’ve jumped to a lazy knee jerk response without reading what she’s actually said. He does half the nights and works full time. She isn’t doing it all, they’re both pitching in.

Chronicallytired · 11/12/2024 16:40

The plan was that he has his hobby and I have mine I’m so exhausted and unwell at times I just want to rot in bed for 1.5 hours instead of going out in the evenings for a hobby I don’t have. We agreed I would have my 1.5 hours twice a week too and that I could rest but baby cries non stop in the evenings and I can’t sleep even with ear plugs. Have suggested he go out but he’s saying that I should be going out not him and baby so I don’t get a break as I can’t ignore my crying baby. I even said make my 15 hours the weekend instead so that you can take him during the day not at night. He says he can’t take baby out in the dark.

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Pippa12 · 11/12/2024 16:30

Why don’t you think about it then set out what you want him to do?

He does half the night feeds, which in all fairness, is ok if he’s working.

Would you prefer him to come home in his lunch hour/break so you can rest? It’s unreasonable to be cross with him eating his sandwich and watching his phone on his break, it’s what most of us do.

If he’s ‘home a lot already’ is he not helping in that time? Maybe get some ear plugs?

Competitive tiredness is futile. It just rubs people up the wrong way. He’s likely tired doing half the night feeds and then working all day, even doing an ‘easy’ job.

BestZebbie · 11/12/2024 16:10

Chronicallytired · 11/12/2024 13:40

I’m not saying to him I’m more tired that you I’m just saying I’m tired when both speak about how we feel. I assumed due to what we had spoken about that he would be picking up more night time feedings or taking baby out to let me have a quick nap. He currently isn’t and when I mentioned it he just says he’s tired too. I’m often at home with a crying baby during the day having to keep myself awake. I’m currently looking for some help so that I can nap maybe twice a week. I’ve fallen asleep twice now holding the baby. I do co sleep if I can but he screams and although I’m exhausted I can’t leave him screaming. I’m also on new pain meds which can make me feel sleepy so I’ve stopped taking them when im alone which isn’t helping. Husband does a hobby twice a week and keeps telling me I should do the same but I’m so exhausted all I want to do is sleep but baby scrams and partner can’t really take baby out in the dark to let me nap.

Babies can totally go out in the dark in winter - they can be driven to the supermarket and pushed up and down the aisles to look at things, for a start. If the baby is snug in a coat, hat and sleep-sack type arrangement in a buggy they can even go for a walk outdoors.

SwingTheMonkey · 11/12/2024 14:13

Chronicallytired · 11/12/2024 14:02

He’s does half the night but has an easy ish job he’s home a lot at the moment but when baby’s home there’s crying and I can’t sleep when baby cry’s. Baby also only likes to settle on me at the moment. I’m also resentful to the fact he rings me or I ring him and he’s sat alone in the office having his lunch and watching the football when I’m holding a crying baby who won’t let me eat a sandwich for 5 seconds. We discussed me coping with a baby before I was pregnant and he said he would make sure I had time too rest a bit but I don’t. I’ve also feel like a bad mum when I can’t play with him as I don’t have the energy. I struggled to bond with him in the early days as I was so exhausted and alone was pumping and partner couldn’t help much at night. I also gave up pumping so I could sleep more which helped but I feel really sad I couldn’t carry on and regret stopping.

Can’t you say to him you’d like him to take the baby out of the house for an hour when he gets home so you can rest?

coxesorangepippin · 11/12/2024 14:02

He does.

He just doesn't care.

Because it's easier for HIM if YOU do it all.

Chronicallytired · 11/12/2024 14:02

He’s does half the night but has an easy ish job he’s home a lot at the moment but when baby’s home there’s crying and I can’t sleep when baby cry’s. Baby also only likes to settle on me at the moment. I’m also resentful to the fact he rings me or I ring him and he’s sat alone in the office having his lunch and watching the football when I’m holding a crying baby who won’t let me eat a sandwich for 5 seconds. We discussed me coping with a baby before I was pregnant and he said he would make sure I had time too rest a bit but I don’t. I’ve also feel like a bad mum when I can’t play with him as I don’t have the energy. I struggled to bond with him in the early days as I was so exhausted and alone was pumping and partner couldn’t help much at night. I also gave up pumping so I could sleep more which helped but I feel really sad I couldn’t carry on and regret stopping.

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SwingTheMonkey · 11/12/2024 13:53

Chronicallytired · 11/12/2024 13:40

I’m not saying to him I’m more tired that you I’m just saying I’m tired when both speak about how we feel. I assumed due to what we had spoken about that he would be picking up more night time feedings or taking baby out to let me have a quick nap. He currently isn’t and when I mentioned it he just says he’s tired too. I’m often at home with a crying baby during the day having to keep myself awake. I’m currently looking for some help so that I can nap maybe twice a week. I’ve fallen asleep twice now holding the baby. I do co sleep if I can but he screams and although I’m exhausted I can’t leave him screaming. I’m also on new pain meds which can make me feel sleepy so I’ve stopped taking them when im alone which isn’t helping. Husband does a hobby twice a week and keeps telling me I should do the same but I’m so exhausted all I want to do is sleep but baby scrams and partner can’t really take baby out in the dark to let me nap.

But you’ve said he already does half of the night. Do you really think he should do more than that and then go to work the next day?

You need to advertise for a mother’s help asap - try the local colleges. In the meantime. Your oh can take the baby for an hour when he gets home from work and you can sleep then.

Chronicallytired · 11/12/2024 13:44

My iron is always low but I take tablets now I lost a lot of blood during birth and then had an infection after birth and was hospitalised partner also had to go back to work 1 day after I came home from hospital due to being self employed. We can probably just about afford some small help but it will be tight. I feel very stupid for thinking I could cope with the sleep but a baby definitely sucks the energy out of you even if are sleeping

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Chronicallytired · 11/12/2024 13:40

Edingril · 11/12/2024 10:51

So you knew you had sleep issues before having a baby now you are acting like one by competing 'i am more tired than you'

I’m not saying to him I’m more tired that you I’m just saying I’m tired when both speak about how we feel. I assumed due to what we had spoken about that he would be picking up more night time feedings or taking baby out to let me have a quick nap. He currently isn’t and when I mentioned it he just says he’s tired too. I’m often at home with a crying baby during the day having to keep myself awake. I’m currently looking for some help so that I can nap maybe twice a week. I’ve fallen asleep twice now holding the baby. I do co sleep if I can but he screams and although I’m exhausted I can’t leave him screaming. I’m also on new pain meds which can make me feel sleepy so I’ve stopped taking them when im alone which isn’t helping. Husband does a hobby twice a week and keeps telling me I should do the same but I’m so exhausted all I want to do is sleep but baby scrams and partner can’t really take baby out in the dark to let me nap.

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livingafulllife · 11/12/2024 11:50

Edingril · 11/12/2024 10:51

So you knew you had sleep issues before having a baby now you are acting like one by competing 'i am more tired than you'

I agree with this.

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