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arcticpandas · 11/12/2024 08:46

So DH loves romantic comedies. Think Love Actually, Pretty Woman, Bridget Jones etc. I don't but each to their own. But certain movies have not aged gracefully imo. Think Pretty Woman. Is it romantic to pay a prostitute? And Bridget Jones. How overweight is she? Not at all imo and yet it's a big part of the plot. Also when Hugh Grant touches her butt it's supposed to be exciting when in fact it's sexual harassment. Maybe it's me getting old 40+ or it's the whole metoo débâcle that has made it impossible to not notice and be annoyed about misogynie and sexism and bodyshaming in movies. My DH thinks I'm a bore and that "it's just a movie" and I get that. Yet I have to either point out what's upsetting if I'm in the living room, or I have to go elsewhere.
So
AIBU - Yes, just shut up and let your DH enjoy his films.
AINBU- No, you are right to point out blatant sexism.
I am seriously in doubt about this one since I do get that DH wants to relax and not having me nag but also I find some things too offensive and I feel I need to point them out since he doesn't see the harm.

OP posts:
OnlySlightly · 11/12/2024 09:41

arcticpandas · 11/12/2024 09:39

I am going to go with this advice. For those saying that DH knows their misogynistic though..no he didn't get the memo and missed metoo as well. He's a decent guy but sometimes I do have to point out the obvious to him, especially since we have teenage sons. But when it comes to movies I'll raise an eyebrow and move on. My sons are not into that type of movies anyway so no need to think about them.

If your DH doesn’t recognise misogyny, then you have a way bigger problem than his opinion of romcoms.

arcticpandas · 11/12/2024 09:39

Member984815 · 11/12/2024 09:20

Whenever watching one of these we always say you wouldn't get away with that now ! Raise an eyebrow and move on .

I am going to go with this advice. For those saying that DH knows their misogynistic though..no he didn't get the memo and missed metoo as well. He's a decent guy but sometimes I do have to point out the obvious to him, especially since we have teenage sons. But when it comes to movies I'll raise an eyebrow and move on. My sons are not into that type of movies anyway so no need to think about them.

OP posts:
eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 11/12/2024 09:35

There are loads of dodgy films when you look back - but you can look back and think, ok, that's off but I like the film.
Big, Splash...

TourmaletAndCoubous · 11/12/2024 09:34

Nanny0gg · 11/12/2024 09:26

You clearly never watch films from the 40s to the 70s

They are of a time. It's fiction

Get over it

Exactly! I'm old enough to remember my dad, uncles and male cousins sniggering over Carry On films... Yes, all the women in the family used to eye roll and tut tut but it's just how it was then. Things change.

theadultsaretalking · 11/12/2024 09:32

OhBling · 11/12/2024 09:21

There are a few but the massive age gap - she's 15!!!! is the most obvious one.

I think she is 17/18 there, which is still young admittedly and he is mid 20s or smth like that.

Lightswitchup · 11/12/2024 09:32

OhBling · 11/12/2024 09:21

There are a few but the massive age gap - she's 15!!!! is the most obvious one.

How do you know her age? It’s never mentioned and neither is his. I think she’s supposed to be about seventeen or eighteen as she’s about to go in the peace corps and he’s supposed to be early twenties, which is not great admittedly. Swayze was in his thirties but Jennifer Grey was 27. That’s more an issue of casting.

Nanny0gg · 11/12/2024 09:26

arcticpandas · 11/12/2024 08:46

So DH loves romantic comedies. Think Love Actually, Pretty Woman, Bridget Jones etc. I don't but each to their own. But certain movies have not aged gracefully imo. Think Pretty Woman. Is it romantic to pay a prostitute? And Bridget Jones. How overweight is she? Not at all imo and yet it's a big part of the plot. Also when Hugh Grant touches her butt it's supposed to be exciting when in fact it's sexual harassment. Maybe it's me getting old 40+ or it's the whole metoo débâcle that has made it impossible to not notice and be annoyed about misogynie and sexism and bodyshaming in movies. My DH thinks I'm a bore and that "it's just a movie" and I get that. Yet I have to either point out what's upsetting if I'm in the living room, or I have to go elsewhere.
So
AIBU - Yes, just shut up and let your DH enjoy his films.
AINBU- No, you are right to point out blatant sexism.
I am seriously in doubt about this one since I do get that DH wants to relax and not having me nag but also I find some things too offensive and I feel I need to point them out since he doesn't see the harm.

You clearly never watch films from the 40s to the 70s

They are of a time. It's fiction

Get over it

Looneymahooney · 11/12/2024 09:22

I think it's obvious these films are dated and contain misogynistic scenes. I'm sure your DH also knows this and doesn't need to be told. But film is such a wonderful escape, getting lost in a story, and just enjoying the storyline... you are taking that away from your DH by commenting on these films. It's not like he likes them for the sexism they contain.

I am fully aware of the sexism in the ones you have mentioned. It doesn't stop me from loving them for what they are. If my partner was commenting on them while I tried to enjoy them or scoffed at them, I'd think he was condescending twat.

I'd love it if my partner enjoyed romantic comedies, instead he likes War films and action movies. Which usually contain no women, or a women as a side piece. Which I think it more problematic, as he doesn't even immerse himself in a story that even shows women doing women things.

Trainors · 11/12/2024 09:21

Talking over a movie while it’s on and your husband is relaxing and enjoying it? Unreasonable. Bringing up what your issue with it is after or before watching it? Not unreasonable

OhBling · 11/12/2024 09:21

theadultsaretalking · 11/12/2024 09:20

Why is Dirty Dancing problematic?? Have I missed the memo?

There are a few but the massive age gap - she's 15!!!! is the most obvious one.

Member984815 · 11/12/2024 09:21

theadultsaretalking · 11/12/2024 09:20

Why is Dirty Dancing problematic?? Have I missed the memo?

Older man with teen girl?

Member984815 · 11/12/2024 09:20

Whenever watching one of these we always say you wouldn't get away with that now ! Raise an eyebrow and move on .

theadultsaretalking · 11/12/2024 09:20

JurassicPark4Eva · 11/12/2024 09:00

I refuse to watch things like Dirty Dancing now. SO problematic.

Pretty Woman is a great film, but it is not a romance film. It's about an abused woman bring abused again by a man who finds her pretty. Great.

Just leave the room.

Why is Dirty Dancing problematic?? Have I missed the memo?

OnlySlightly · 11/12/2024 09:18

Thepeopleversuswork · 11/12/2024 09:09

You’re not wrong but as PPs have said I’m not sure what you will achieve by pointing this out to him. He enjoys them as is his right. I think people are far more sensitive to these issues than they were when these films were made: social mores to change.

I don’t find romantic comedies offensive I just find them unbearably twee but I know I am in a small minority so very happy for others to crack on and enjoy them.

What I actually like are Joanna Hogg films, but it’s unbearable if I try to watch one at home with anyone else around — ‘Why is the dialogue so mumbly?’ ‘Why doesn’t the camera move?’ ‘What is supposed to be happening?’ ‘Why is the most famous actor in this film playing an estate agent who only gets two lines?’’Why is Viv Albertine always wearing stripes?’ ‘Why is he wearing a turban if he works for the Foreign Office?’

Romcoms, Merchant Ivory oldies, or black and white old Hollywood at least don’t involve gore. I’d genuinely derive more pleasure from While You Were Sleeping than Apocalypse Now.

Oaoejvr · 11/12/2024 09:17

I make these comments when we watch these films but if a family member asked me not to then I wouldn’t as I know my DH knows these things already; I mainly point it out for my teens to have perspective. Some of the things in married at first sight and love island are problematic and I don’t need DH to point it out

Lightswitchup · 11/12/2024 09:16

I watch slightly problematic nineties films and sit coms with teen dd and she is perfectly able to understand what is problematic and ‘of it’s time’ but still enjoy them in the same way I would watching some forties, fifties or sixties films. We sometimes have a bit of a conversation about it or a bit of a laugh. Someone ranting on about it every time is a bore.

CitiesInDust · 11/12/2024 09:15

I think with Bridget Jones a lot of the point was that she felt overweight but was just normal.

Whathappensnowplease · 11/12/2024 09:15

I find the whole premise of a film like Pretty Woman and Scent of a Woman objectionable and I'm not keen on Romantic comedies in general. I wouldn't sit and watch them.
I would probably discuss with your DH the elements of the film which are questionable. I think that would be an interesting thing to do, hopefully for both of you. But ultimately if he wants to watch them , then fair enough.
As a pp said compared to him watching porn it seems relatively acceptable. Porn would not be acceptable in my relationship.

ChrissyBells · 11/12/2024 09:14

Leave him alone.

My DH does this and it really pisses me off. If you don't want to watch them, fine, go elsewhere but to comment and ridicule him for enjoying a film watched by millions of people is just rude.
Leave him be.

SissySpacekAteMyHamster · 11/12/2024 09:14

I point this stuff out to my teens, as I don't want them growing up with normalised misogyny. No mood hoovering, just discussions on how things used to be and why things need/needed to change.

KrisAkabusi · 11/12/2024 09:13

You can be offended as much or as little as you want. Just let him watch his movie without you moaning from the corner. You don't have to say anything.

OhBling · 11/12/2024 09:12

Well, I can't watch most of those any more (and I always found Bridget Jones annoying, even when reading the books - she was so INCOMPETENT) and I'm happy to point out the ridiculousness of it, but I wouldn't be annoyed that other people watch it. eg if a friend said she wanted to watch Love Actually I'd probaly say something like, "Ick, I can't watch that any more the whole thing is just too pervy and awful and hasn't aged well" then move on. So a sort of middle ground - say my piece but not stop her from watching and I'd probably be theh same with DH.

Having said that, I wont lie, if DH is watching something I consider offensive and enjoying it, then yes, I guess I would think a bit less of him in a way that I wouldn't if it was a friend or some random person out there.

Thepeopleversuswork · 11/12/2024 09:09

You’re not wrong but as PPs have said I’m not sure what you will achieve by pointing this out to him. He enjoys them as is his right. I think people are far more sensitive to these issues than they were when these films were made: social mores to change.

I don’t find romantic comedies offensive I just find them unbearably twee but I know I am in a small minority so very happy for others to crack on and enjoy them.

DarkAndTwisties · 11/12/2024 09:09

I would find it annoying to have someone lecturing me about the films I watched tbh.

Also, Bridget Jones not being that fat - wasn't that part of the point? She thought she was fat (and she thought that fat = unsexy) because of the 90s heroin chic ideal, but this was just her own perception. I do think this is clearer in the book that it's a bit satirical, and that she's not actually fat, and it's her view of herself as unattractive due her weight. She thinks she's unattractive but actually has no problem with men not finding her physically attractive.

courageandwisdom · 11/12/2024 09:07

YABU, it's a film, people can distinguish between fiction and reality.

Contrary to the way the world is going, we don't need to be force fed politically correct ideas 24/7. Escapism has its place.

Being offended about everything all the time must be exhausting.