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To not keep my mouth shut..

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arcticpandas · 11/12/2024 08:46

So DH loves romantic comedies. Think Love Actually, Pretty Woman, Bridget Jones etc. I don't but each to their own. But certain movies have not aged gracefully imo. Think Pretty Woman. Is it romantic to pay a prostitute? And Bridget Jones. How overweight is she? Not at all imo and yet it's a big part of the plot. Also when Hugh Grant touches her butt it's supposed to be exciting when in fact it's sexual harassment. Maybe it's me getting old 40+ or it's the whole metoo débâcle that has made it impossible to not notice and be annoyed about misogynie and sexism and bodyshaming in movies. My DH thinks I'm a bore and that "it's just a movie" and I get that. Yet I have to either point out what's upsetting if I'm in the living room, or I have to go elsewhere.
So
AIBU - Yes, just shut up and let your DH enjoy his films.
AINBU- No, you are right to point out blatant sexism.
I am seriously in doubt about this one since I do get that DH wants to relax and not having me nag but also I find some things too offensive and I feel I need to point them out since he doesn't see the harm.

OP posts:
Userxyd · 12/12/2024 22:40

YANBU. The Two Ronnies was on this morning and whilst they've got some classic sketches there are some that are shockingly sexist joking about men with their secretaries, size of women's breasts etc etc. Our culture has progressed so much in just a few decades.

browneyes77 · 12/12/2024 22:32

arcticpandas · 11/12/2024 10:54

He would love for us to watch a film together every evening but we really don't have the same taste as I like psychological suspense/drama where as he's loves romantic comedies and some action movies. But I prefer reading anyway, I find it more relaxing so I let him have the remote.

Definitely with you on the psychological dramas

I much prefer a crime drama / psychological thriller over stuff like rom coms.

My DP likes anything about Vikings, Knights Templar and WW2. We have VERY different tastes 🤣🤣

Mum2jenny · 12/12/2024 22:30

My dh and I watch so very different programs so I don’t think you are being unreasonable. It’s very much horses for courses in our household.

Pussycat22 · 12/12/2024 22:28

You used to say live and let live......

theeyeofdoe · 12/12/2024 22:27

They’re old fashioned films and attitudes were different.

Candy24 · 12/12/2024 22:25

Just because you had a thought you dont have to share it

Spirallingdownwards · 12/12/2024 22:25

Love Actually is actually one of the worst films ever and I would LTB for even watching it.

I think I would tell him why you have no interest in watching them but leave him to it if he still wants to watch.

browneyes77 · 12/12/2024 22:22

TourmaletAndCoubous · 11/12/2024 09:34

Exactly! I'm old enough to remember my dad, uncles and male cousins sniggering over Carry On films... Yes, all the women in the family used to eye roll and tut tut but it's just how it was then. Things change.

I still love watching Carry On films

browneyes77 · 12/12/2024 22:18

courageandwisdom · 11/12/2024 09:07

YABU, it's a film, people can distinguish between fiction and reality.

Contrary to the way the world is going, we don't need to be force fed politically correct ideas 24/7. Escapism has its place.

Being offended about everything all the time must be exhausting.

I quite agree

browneyes77 · 12/12/2024 22:15

DarkAndTwisties · 11/12/2024 09:09

I would find it annoying to have someone lecturing me about the films I watched tbh.

Also, Bridget Jones not being that fat - wasn't that part of the point? She thought she was fat (and she thought that fat = unsexy) because of the 90s heroin chic ideal, but this was just her own perception. I do think this is clearer in the book that it's a bit satirical, and that she's not actually fat, and it's her view of herself as unattractive due her weight. She thinks she's unattractive but actually has no problem with men not finding her physically attractive.

I totally agree

I never thought she was portrayed as being overweight. More that she was an average sized 10-12 woman, but she herself was comparing herself to the stick thin models of that time.

I honestly wouldn’t even think of getting worked up about stuff like this. They were films of their time and they can still carry important messages about being comfortable in yourself if you want to look at it more deeply. (I don’t).

Certain ‘societal standards’ maybe different now, but that doesn’t mean these films are bad/offensive. I certainly don’t find anything offensive about them. I enjoy them for what they are and don’t think anymore about it.

parietal · 12/12/2024 20:21

We watched "room with a view" and DD (age 15) declared that love interest boy was an awful predator who should be dumped.

Anywherebuthere · 12/12/2024 19:41

It's suffocating when someone does a critical analysis when you just want to chill. I wouldn't want to stay around someone like this.

BefuddledCrumble · 12/12/2024 19:04

I love k-dramas.

Lots of 'problematic' elements, and all the better for them! It's just a bit if fun and fantasy, no one is taking life lessons from a rom com!

Hasn't been a decent romcom for years in western media, sanitised = boring.

Onlyvisiting · 12/12/2024 19:03

You are right that they have aged very poorly, wrong to insist on 'educating' a grown adult.
Leave the room if you can't be quiet

Sassybooklover · 12/12/2024 19:01

Watching any film from a different era, means it's based on the attitudes of that particular time. Those attitudes may not be so acceptable nowadays but you can't erase the past. You don't have to watch the films, your husband doesn't need a lecture from you, he's a grown adult with his own mind and opinions.

Sharptonguedwoman · 12/12/2024 18:17

arcticpandas · 11/12/2024 08:46

So DH loves romantic comedies. Think Love Actually, Pretty Woman, Bridget Jones etc. I don't but each to their own. But certain movies have not aged gracefully imo. Think Pretty Woman. Is it romantic to pay a prostitute? And Bridget Jones. How overweight is she? Not at all imo and yet it's a big part of the plot. Also when Hugh Grant touches her butt it's supposed to be exciting when in fact it's sexual harassment. Maybe it's me getting old 40+ or it's the whole metoo débâcle that has made it impossible to not notice and be annoyed about misogynie and sexism and bodyshaming in movies. My DH thinks I'm a bore and that "it's just a movie" and I get that. Yet I have to either point out what's upsetting if I'm in the living room, or I have to go elsewhere.
So
AIBU - Yes, just shut up and let your DH enjoy his films.
AINBU- No, you are right to point out blatant sexism.
I am seriously in doubt about this one since I do get that DH wants to relax and not having me nag but also I find some things too offensive and I feel I need to point them out since he doesn't see the harm.

Not sure which way to vote . DD and I can’t bear to watch early Bond movies because of the roles of women in the films. I wouldn’t ever watch most of them again but ExDP wouldn’t even notice second class treatment of women in these films.

Think I’d have to be in another room. Watching Pretty Woman now, I just think the internet would have a field day when they found out the past life of the Julia Roberts character. And why insist on someone eating snails if you knew they had no experience of them? Different world.

FarmGirl78 · 11/12/2024 13:14

You sound like the type of person who wants to ban "Baby it's Cold Outside" from being played on the radio because it's about a sexual predator spiking a younger woman's drink and trying to make her stop with him to get his wicked way. When actually it's about a Woman desperate to overcome social boundaries and looking for excuses to stay, pretending the small amount of alcohol has gone to her head so it would actually be acceptable and safer to stay, so she can instead be sexually liberated and enjoy getting it on with someone she's clearly into.

OriginalUsername2 · 11/12/2024 12:12

Things are a product of their time. No point arguing with the past!

ByHardyAquaFox · 11/12/2024 12:10

Jesus, just STFU and let the man enjoy the movie. Nobody wants a lecturer next to them when they are attempting to relax while watching a flick.

theadultsaretalking · 11/12/2024 12:10

Agree on Sean Connery's James Bond - that is pretty bad!

Horrace · 11/12/2024 12:07

You sound like a nightmare.

It's Hollywood. It's not real.

You could critique every car chase and fight scene for being over the top and unrealistic.

Maybe just stick to watching the news

HamptonPlace · 11/12/2024 12:05

JurassicPark4Eva · 11/12/2024 09:00

I refuse to watch things like Dirty Dancing now. SO problematic.

Pretty Woman is a great film, but it is not a romance film. It's about an abused woman bring abused again by a man who finds her pretty. Great.

Just leave the room.

Dirty Dancing?!

user2848502016 · 11/12/2024 12:01

"There are a few but the massive age gap - she's 15!!!! is the most obvious one."

She is definitely not 15, it says at the start she is going to Mount Holyoke college "in the fall" suggesting she has finished high school and is 18 , or at least about to turn 18.
Johnny is supposed to be early 20s, although Patrick Swayze was older.

Pretty woman I agree hasn't aged that well but I still enjoy watching it.

Bridget Jones is not my favourite movie anyway but I agree with PP that the whole point (especially in the books) is that she is a perfectly healthy weight but wants to be super skinny because of the pressures put on women to be thin in the 90s (ironically when she does lose weight after being in prison everyone says she is too thin)

The only thing I have refused to watch with DH is a Sean Connery James Bond - just couldn't stay silent! Otherwise I think he is an adult and can watch what he wants. If it isn't my taste I will read or watch something else in another room.

theadultsaretalking · 11/12/2024 11:23

Pendeer · 11/12/2024 10:19

@OnlySlightly I believe she was 17 when it was filmed. There is no need for the kiss in my opinion. This thread is about problematic themes in films. It is admittedly 21 years since I saw Lost in Translation released in 2003 but even at the time I was shocked they kissed given the age gap and that I had loved Bill Murray when he did Ghostbusters in 1984 when he was 34.

I don't quite agree with defining age gaps amongst adults in movies (or life) as automatically problematic. When I was 19, I went out with a guy who was 20 years older, and I most definitely wasn't groomed and frankly did most of the chasing.

Personally, I find the Pretty Woman's fairytale treatment of prostitution much more difficult to accept. Saying that, I still quote: "Big mistake, huge!" when an opportunity presents itself.

Megifer · 11/12/2024 11:07

We were chatting in work about favourite TV shows and a few of us said Friends. Cue an up their own arse terminally offended colleague lecturing us about how awful it is, anyone who likes it is likely a bigot in denial, they liked it until they saw the error of their ways etc....honestly bore off.

We just pretended she wasnt there and carried on, thankfully the misery got the strong hint and left shaking and crying no doubt