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arcticpandas · 11/12/2024 08:46

So DH loves romantic comedies. Think Love Actually, Pretty Woman, Bridget Jones etc. I don't but each to their own. But certain movies have not aged gracefully imo. Think Pretty Woman. Is it romantic to pay a prostitute? And Bridget Jones. How overweight is she? Not at all imo and yet it's a big part of the plot. Also when Hugh Grant touches her butt it's supposed to be exciting when in fact it's sexual harassment. Maybe it's me getting old 40+ or it's the whole metoo débâcle that has made it impossible to not notice and be annoyed about misogynie and sexism and bodyshaming in movies. My DH thinks I'm a bore and that "it's just a movie" and I get that. Yet I have to either point out what's upsetting if I'm in the living room, or I have to go elsewhere.
So
AIBU - Yes, just shut up and let your DH enjoy his films.
AINBU- No, you are right to point out blatant sexism.
I am seriously in doubt about this one since I do get that DH wants to relax and not having me nag but also I find some things too offensive and I feel I need to point them out since he doesn't see the harm.

OP posts:
OnlyHasEyesForLoki · 15/12/2024 15:54

Yeah I cringe a bit and do the raised eyebrow sometimes but then just try to relax and enjoy - same with Friends. Can’t help but still love it despite the sexism. However my recent ex would ruin every tv show or film with racist, homophobic and fattist comments which drove me nuts. Very different to what you said which was basically the truth! ! And yes JKR is also telling the truth. Thank goodness for her.

crockofshite · 15/12/2024 15:37

Movies are full of stuff that's not socially acceptable. ...... murders, terrorism, affairs, drugs, people trafficking, child abuse, prostitution, bank robbery, gun running ........

It's just a story, let it go.....

bifurCAT · 15/12/2024 13:28

Stay away from the old James Bond movies then!

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Yalta · 15/12/2024 13:20

I watched a film with a lot of shooting in it once with someone who works with firearms

I got a running commentary about how the actors were holding their weapons and the fact if you held a particular gun with one hand you would dislocate your shoulder very quickly. No one could care less about accuracy. It was just annoying

Films are escapist entertainment. They aren’t meant to be teaching material or to be held up as some sort of moral compass for future generations.

Even today’s woke tv shows will look dated in 20 years time.

Yalta · 15/12/2024 12:57

And if it is a drama series in the UK, it’s always the same set of actors (Usually ex Dr Who’s)

Yalta · 15/12/2024 12:53

To be fair I hate the overly woke casting in films and tv series nowadays

Usually the casting is so bad it’s like they sacrifice acting ability for wokeness and giving a part to someone who ticks a box rather than being good at their job

Humphreyshead · 15/12/2024 12:39

This is what I’m thinking.

OP, what type of films do you like? I bet there’s loads of issues in them that you wouldn’t condone.

Isxmasoveryet · 15/12/2024 12:31

These movies are not meant to be enjoyed by the permanently offended karens amongst us who go out 9f their way to find fault and be permanently offended by men who walk past them or stand near them lol

jasminocereusbritannicus · 15/12/2024 12:29

Isn’t the whole point of Pretty Woman that it’s not romantic to pay a prostitute???

Emmz1510 · 15/12/2024 12:19

Yabu OP, sorry, but this is beyond annoying. Your OH is an adult who is perfectly capable of understanding these issues and deciding for himself what his views are.
I’m not a huge fan of deconstructing movies using a modern day lens anyway. They were successful in their time. We know more now.

Cardboardeaux · 13/12/2024 21:28

OnlySlightly · 13/12/2024 21:26

Let’s not get carried away. He put on a cardigan. Which he then took off.

😂
The much bigger problem with Grease imo is some of the song lyrics!...

Cardboardeaux · 13/12/2024 21:26

Pretty Woman is also loosely based on Pygmalion (although granted Eliza isn't a prostitute!)

OnlySlightly · 13/12/2024 21:26

Cardboardeaux · 13/12/2024 21:19

People always say that about Grease, that she changes herself just to get a guy etc. But he changes himself too! In the last scene where she's in the tight leather outfit etc, he has dressed himself up like a jock (and there's the earlier scenes where he is trying different sports to try to impress her).

Let’s not get carried away. He put on a cardigan. Which he then took off.

Cardboardeaux · 13/12/2024 21:24

Pumpkincozynights · 13/12/2024 14:45

I don’t mind dirty dancing.
Baby is 17 I think. Most people have had sex by that age.
Johnny was gorgeous and not some old dodgy pervert old enough to be her father. The vast majority of teenage girls can relate to that film.
It ends with her still being an independent young woman on the verge of being able to achieve her dreams and ambitions. The woman who wrote it said that Baby was based on her.
Also it turns old sexist notions on their head. The male love interest is gorgeous and the object of sexual desire. The female lead is quite ordinary, for an absolute change.

Part of the point of Dirty Dancing is that it's NOT about an older guy taking advantage. He tells Baby that he keeps getting taken advantage of by rich clients who want dancing lessons with him so they can shag him. Whereas he says to Baby something like "when are you going to tell your daddy that I'm your guy?"

Cardboardeaux · 13/12/2024 21:19

IdylicDay · 13/12/2024 09:51

I don't know, I can see both points of view. A lot of movies made say pre 2000 have things in them that are problematic. For example Grease where she changes herself completely just to get a guy. And being Gender Critical I especially notice a lot of these things now more than as a teen and in my 20s and 30s.

But, I still enjoy some of these movies for what they are. Fun classics. So, yeah, I'd point out to him how a part is unrealistic, but then I'd shut up and let him enjoy it otherwise.

People always say that about Grease, that she changes herself just to get a guy etc. But he changes himself too! In the last scene where she's in the tight leather outfit etc, he has dressed himself up like a jock (and there's the earlier scenes where he is trying different sports to try to impress her).

Hankunamatata · 13/12/2024 21:07

You want something that hasn't aged well. Old James Bond movies that keep being on tv. Dh loves them but I cringe so much when he watches them with dc as they are so the opposite of all the consent discussions iv had with dc

bellocchild · 13/12/2024 21:03

Is Pretty Woman really about an abused woman? She's independent, it's her (admittedly rather odd!) choice of occupation, she hasn't been trafficked and she isn't an addict. At the end, she decides to use some of her new partner's questionably acquired wealth to go to college. It's Richard Gere's character I find unattractive.

Dweetfidilove · 13/12/2024 20:18

Lightswitchup · 11/12/2024 09:16

I watch slightly problematic nineties films and sit coms with teen dd and she is perfectly able to understand what is problematic and ‘of it’s time’ but still enjoy them in the same way I would watching some forties, fifties or sixties films. We sometimes have a bit of a conversation about it or a bit of a laugh. Someone ranting on about it every time is a bore.

Pretty much this.

My daughter and I watch all these old movies and enjoy them. We recognise them for what they are, raise an eyebrow sometimes and carry on.

She was in the school production recently, and she came home laughing about how proud I'll be of her performance... Why - well, I'm just some man's wife. Every time I speak, it's about something to do with my husband's accomplishments, even though I'm wealthier than him 😊.

Allfur · 13/12/2024 20:03

I make annoying comments about most sex scenes which I'm sure is irritating for my dh

Sharptonguedwoman · 13/12/2024 19:39

Pussycat22 · 12/12/2024 22:28

You used to say live and let live......

You know you did

BeensOnToost · 13/12/2024 16:06

It's of its age. If you've watched it at that time it's natural to feel fond of it but if you watch it for the first time now it won't have those feels.

Don't be a mood hoover. Your husband isn't going to think touching someone's arse at work is fine, nor is he going to think a size 12 is fat or that wooing a prostitute is romantic.

Pumpkincozynights · 13/12/2024 14:45

I don’t mind dirty dancing.
Baby is 17 I think. Most people have had sex by that age.
Johnny was gorgeous and not some old dodgy pervert old enough to be her father. The vast majority of teenage girls can relate to that film.
It ends with her still being an independent young woman on the verge of being able to achieve her dreams and ambitions. The woman who wrote it said that Baby was based on her.
Also it turns old sexist notions on their head. The male love interest is gorgeous and the object of sexual desire. The female lead is quite ordinary, for an absolute change.

ZoeSed · 13/12/2024 10:27

I still love these films but if someone touched my backside I'm not the type to run to HR I'd grab his fingers and bend them all the way back until he was on his knees apologising 😆😆

ElaborateCushion · 13/12/2024 10:22

I used to love Sliding Doors. I spotted it was on TV a while ago and flicked over to it. Watched it for about 10 mins before thinking "that has not aged well at all" and turning it off!

That said, I'd still watch Pretty Woman, though I agree the plot nowadays would not be given the go ahead. As a film of its time, it's pretty iconic and I know a lot of people feel the same about Dirty Dancing (I never really did particularly like the film myself).

I would not be encouraging a teenager to watch them though.