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His new hobby and female friend - be cool?

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EvieR · 10/12/2024 23:18

My boyfriend has recently started a musical hobby at his job. He played piano as a child but dropped it long ago. Suddenly he announced he wanted to get back into it.

Around the same time he started talking about violins then his colleague Rachel played violin. Other things she said. I was detecting a bit of mentionitis.

It turns out they have met once a week for a month between classes (both teachers) to play together. Now he's talking passionately about this hobby but not about her anymore. They practice together just the two of them.

As for our relationship, it feels stronger than ever and he told me how happy he is the other day. Outside of this I have no concerns.

Should my reaction to this new hobby and friend just be 'have fun'? Truth is I am a bit jealous. I love him and don't want to lose him.

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MasterBeth · 11/12/2024 23:21

BESTAUNTB · 10/12/2024 23:43

I’m usually a bit wary about new opposite-sex friends appearing out of the blue (assuming heterosexuality), but for some reason this case strikes me as unsuspicious. You don’t have any other reasons for concern and you mention that you can be jealous at times. I think it seems ok.

How can you possibly know?

VeryVeryCross · 11/12/2024 23:14

Hmm
I wouldn't be doing this regularly at school if I were them. People notice. Rumours start. They'd be far better off if it were a small group of them.

user1492757084 · 11/12/2024 22:30

OnlySlightly · 11/12/2024 10:23

But the OP’s husband and his colleagues are two adult members of the teaching staff, not school children. Adults aren’t left alone with individual children in private spaces because of potential risk to the child in a situation with considerable power differential. None of that is relevant to two adult colleagues using a free period to play music together. Even if people are characterising the OP’s DH as a deluded innocent liable to be pounced upon by his cougar fortysomething fellow-teacher while he’s trying to work out a tricky bit of Rachmaninov.

No, not just that but teachers are taught that the other person in an intimate setting could make up stories, fix on the fact of an intimate private time meaning more than it actually does and also be fodder for others witnessing that. Teenagers have vivid imaginations, are prone to crushes and adults need to protect themselves. Op's husband also needs to give a little thought (as he probably has done) to how his music friend could feel, react etc. He has probably rightly assessed that it is merely a music connection.
He, never-the-less, leaves himself vulnerable to possibilities unpredictable if he routinely shuts himself in a small room with a female friend.

daisychain01 · 11/12/2024 21:10

It begs the question why does he need to bother making up an elaborate story about Rachel, violin playing, etc?

If you aren't married, don't have DC, and possibly don't have a house together yet etc (my assumption), lets be honest here, he's free to head off into the sunset with Rachel if he prefers her that much. The fact he still chooses you as his partner must count for something.

I'd definitely express your misgivings or discomfort about his association with Rachel especially if his meet ups with her, take away from the free time he could be spending with you.

ginasevern · 11/12/2024 16:55

gannett · 11/12/2024 14:57

By "story older than time" do you mean "cliche that doesn't bear any resemblance to reality"? The idea that men only take up hobbies to pursue attractive women is just nonsense.

I'm not saying all men and all hobbies. But it's not uncommon for men who suddenly find pottery riveting (whilst having a simultaneous desire to text a female from that class) to find the contents of her knickers rather more compelling than that of the kiln. It really isn't nonesense.

EvieR · 11/12/2024 15:03

@GoldsolesLugs that sounds like a very pragmatic approach, thanks 🙂

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gannett · 11/12/2024 14:57

ginasevern · 11/12/2024 14:32

No, I'm just saying that in my experience the vast majority of men who suddenly start to show a remarkable interest in the piano, tennis or amateur dramatics - which by sheer coincidence also happens to be the pursuit of the rather attractive "Jane from Accounts" - should raise suspicions. It's a story older than time and hardly jaw droppingly cynical is it.

By "story older than time" do you mean "cliche that doesn't bear any resemblance to reality"? The idea that men only take up hobbies to pursue attractive women is just nonsense.

GoldsolesLugs · 11/12/2024 14:51

EvieR · 11/12/2024 14:44

@sommerjade no idea if she is single but my impression is that she probably is from previous descriptions.

I think I'm going to have to trust him and sit on my hands. If it starts to progress outside of work I think that'd when I would have the conversation.

You could have the conversation with him now in a "this is how we could navigate our emotions going forward" way. He could do stuff to set your mind at ease (e.g. sending you photos of the rehearsals, organizing a social occasion with her or something). I wouldn't accuse him of being naive about his feelings though - more "I feel x, would you be willing to help me with this?".

EauNeu · 11/12/2024 14:49

Yes. If someone's going to cheat they're going to cheat. You can't stop them.

You can however make a lovely partner unhappy by controlling their movements and being suspicious all the time.

EvieR · 11/12/2024 14:44

@sommerjade no idea if she is single but my impression is that she probably is from previous descriptions.

I think I'm going to have to trust him and sit on my hands. If it starts to progress outside of work I think that'd when I would have the conversation.

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GoldsolesLugs · 11/12/2024 14:43

ginasevern · 11/12/2024 14:32

No, I'm just saying that in my experience the vast majority of men who suddenly start to show a remarkable interest in the piano, tennis or amateur dramatics - which by sheer coincidence also happens to be the pursuit of the rather attractive "Jane from Accounts" - should raise suspicions. It's a story older than time and hardly jaw droppingly cynical is it.

I dunno, I'd reckon that if people work together and want to start fucking they'd just do it on the quiet rather than doing amateur dramatics or whatever.

sommerjade · 11/12/2024 14:39

Just here to comment on the hilarity that was @ThatTealViewer post - at 48 I'm definitely not 'past that sort of thing' and sorry @EvieR but i definitely like 30something men!

Is she single, that's what you need to know.

ginasevern · 11/12/2024 14:32

GoldsolesLugs · 11/12/2024 14:23

By that logic then you're screwed - anyone you date will cheat on you and you can't do anything about it (unless you can monitor them 100% of the time which is unfeasible).Might as well just be celibate or have an open relationship.

Stop adding to OP's anxiety. She's obviously not stupid, but currently hasn't been given cause to think her husband is cheating.

No, I'm just saying that in my experience the vast majority of men who suddenly start to show a remarkable interest in the piano, tennis or amateur dramatics - which by sheer coincidence also happens to be the pursuit of the rather attractive "Jane from Accounts" - should raise suspicions. It's a story older than time and hardly jaw droppingly cynical is it.

GoldsolesLugs · 11/12/2024 14:23

ginasevern · 11/12/2024 14:18

@EvieR

"I actually can't ever imagine him physically cheating."

That's what I said about my DH of 26 years. It's also what 2 of my best friends more or less said about their husbands. One actually laughed when confronted with the truth. Apparently he was "too fond of her home cooking to stray". Well, they did. Trust me, even the least likely men can, and frequently do, find somewhere else to stick their dicks given half a chance.

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By that logic then you're screwed - anyone you date will cheat on you and you can't do anything about it (unless you can monitor them 100% of the time which is unfeasible).Might as well just be celibate or have an open relationship.

Stop adding to OP's anxiety. She's obviously not stupid, but currently hasn't been given cause to think her husband is cheating.

Evaka · 11/12/2024 14:20

Alalalala · 10/12/2024 23:33

You’re not being ridiculous at all. They are making music together and she’s his type. He’s very probably attracted to her and his current vibe of happiness might be due to the buzz this is giving him.

Sorry OP I think you’re right to be concerned. Talk to him about it. Talk to him about boundaries.

Agree with this. Sounds like he might be getting a confidence boost from time spent with her :(

ginasevern · 11/12/2024 14:18

@EvieR

"I actually can't ever imagine him physically cheating."

That's what I said about my DH of 26 years. It's also what 2 of my best friends more or less said about their husbands. One actually laughed when confronted with the truth. Apparently he was "too fond of her home cooking to stray". Well, they did. Trust me, even the least likely men can, and frequently do, find somewhere else to stick their dicks given half a chance.

GoldsolesLugs · 11/12/2024 14:07

EvieR · 11/12/2024 13:29

He didn't mention how the practice went with her this morning.

He's messaging me about other things now as normal. I am probably being silly but I don't think we should all trust blindly OR be too jealous. Surely there's an in between.

Yeah, but just having a female friend that you do an activity with is on the OK side of the balance. If he said he was going to rent a cottage for the two of them and practice for a week or something then I'd say you'd have more grounds, but they're just practising in a school class room ffs. If she were blowing his horn (sorry, been resisting the musical innuendo all thread) then they'd potentially be seen by children and get sacked.

stuckdownahole · 11/12/2024 14:05

The thing is that most teachers are women, and most teachers who make a career in the profession don't stay at the same school. So, even if a male teacher is working in a school with mostly male staff, that will likely change with the next workplace.

If you have a male partner who is a teacher you will have to get used to the fact that he has the opportunity to meet and become friendly with women. Schools can be a tough working environment so occasionally those friendships might involve supporting each other at a low point and becoming emotionally close.

One of my best (male) friends works in HR which is female dominated and at one point he was the only man in his team. His wife admitted that she felt jealous when he talked about his day and would mention his colleagues in a positive way, but she realised that she had to basically suck it up because what else could he do apart from be stand-offish and unpopular? Like the OP she traced these feelings back to a previous relationship with someone who had been unfaithful.

The actual problem is that the OP feels insecure but given the situation her husband is in, the pragmatic solution might be to find ways to feel more secure. Because someone who wants to have an affair will do so anyway.

EvieR · 11/12/2024 14:03

Extraspecial · 11/12/2024 13:34

I would definitely be keeping an eye on it. I have seen many affairs amongst teachers over the years and they usually start with visits to each other’s classrooms.

I would also wonder why he is not practising if he thinks the music is so wonderful and the mentionitis stopping would also be a sign things are developing.

Affairs are rife in schools and also apparently in orchestras according to a musician friend.

Not definitely of course but certainly possible.

She's also in an orchestra. He might join if he gets good enough. 😅

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OnlySlightly · 11/12/2024 13:47

Extraspecial · 11/12/2024 13:34

I would definitely be keeping an eye on it. I have seen many affairs amongst teachers over the years and they usually start with visits to each other’s classrooms.

I would also wonder why he is not practising if he thinks the music is so wonderful and the mentionitis stopping would also be a sign things are developing.

Affairs are rife in schools and also apparently in orchestras according to a musician friend.

Not definitely of course but certainly possible.

Or that she told him his fingering needed work. Bish-boom.

It’s just as possible that after the initial flush of enthusiasm, he discovered that he’s nowhere near at her level and started finding it demotivating. Or she told him he needed lessons. Or for whatever reason it stopped being enjoyable

I used to regularly go off-campus for lunch with a colleague from another department, and it became a kind of informal book club of two for books from a specific area. I stopped it when it stopped being enjoyable, when I realised he was preparing notes and treating the whole thing like a viva in which I was the examiner and he was the candidate.

5128gap · 11/12/2024 13:45

Why would you try to be 'cool'? Seriously, whats in that for you? Wave your partner off to do his thing with Rachel with a fake smile on your face then sit there in knots in case the friendship is crossing lines? The notion of being cool was not invented for your benefit and belongs in the bin, to be replaced by being authentic and assertive within your own relationship. So if you are concerned he's getting too close to Rachel, have a conversation. Lay down the boundaries you expect in a relationship. Its then up to him whether to comply or compromise, but you'll at least have had your say, raised your issue and been genuine.

ThatTealViewer · 11/12/2024 13:38

EvieR · 11/12/2024 13:29

He didn't mention how the practice went with her this morning.

He's messaging me about other things now as normal. I am probably being silly but I don't think we should all trust blindly OR be too jealous. Surely there's an in between.

There’s definitely an in-between. The issue is that you appear to be leaning pretty far into ‘too jealous’ at the moment…and the usual suspects have emerged to nudge you over the edge.

I’ve seen how these things can go and I’d genuinely just hide this thread and crack on if I were you. You’re probably more anxious now than when you posted.

thepariscrimefiles · 11/12/2024 13:37

EvieR · 11/12/2024 13:26

@thepariscrimefiles not helping 😀

Sorry!

Extraspecial · 11/12/2024 13:34

I would definitely be keeping an eye on it. I have seen many affairs amongst teachers over the years and they usually start with visits to each other’s classrooms.

I would also wonder why he is not practising if he thinks the music is so wonderful and the mentionitis stopping would also be a sign things are developing.

Affairs are rife in schools and also apparently in orchestras according to a musician friend.

Not definitely of course but certainly possible.

rookiemere · 11/12/2024 13:33

I would ask him how practice went, if he wants something to progress with her he will be trying to compartmentalise it.