AIBU to be having nightmares over friends visit?

I am sorry you have misunderstood the situation then.

Maybe question people more directly about what they mean instead of extrapolating from what you’ve heard elsewhere? There is a lot of ‘the Irish are anti-Jewish’ rhetoric about at the moment unfortunately - mostly spread by people with their own agenda - and perhaps it is easy to be swayed by this.

I’ve been here a lot longer than 20 years and I could not be surer that you are wrong.

I caveat that by saying there are dickheads everywhere and we have our fair share!

@the7Vabo @Rowen32 @Daradarina and all...

""Daradarina · Today 08:40

"The social pressure to be anti Jews, pro[] Hamas, and so forth is immense. Disagreeing makes you a social pariah and ostracized."

This is not true."

I don't know what to tell you.

As I said I'm an immigrant from Europe, and I can assure that each of my small group of Russian and Ukrainian friends would testify to exactly this.

This is what we've all seen from Irish people, in private and in public.

I've been here over 20 years, my Russian friends about 10, the Ukrainian girls obviously less (having come due to the war).

It's actually made the Ukrainian girls really sad, and sadly cynical, about Ireland and Irish people, who've otherwise treated them very nicely.

I'm 100% behind the right of the Northern Irish to determine whether they are part of The Republic of Ireland or of the UK, but please get the name of the country right... it would be both politically and geographically impossible for any part of Ireland to be part of England, Scotland or Wales.

Apologies- I expressed myself badly

This thread is baffling to me, first with the IRA, now you're a social pariah unless you're anti Jew. That is such utter bs and I never use that word but I'm actually angry there's such narratives being put forth, omg.

We all saw what happened to people posting awful stuff online about the riots a couple of months back. She could end up in serious trouble.

Yes that's exactly my point , I was replying to the loyalist .

I understand why as well, particular if you are in rural Kerry.

Antisemitism is a deep rooted prejudice, when it erupts it's volcanic - history has shown us that. The brutality of the Hamas attacks on ordinary people just living their lives, kids at a festival, people in their homes, has uncorked it in so many people. A normal human response to that brutality should be horror, not jubilation. Being a non practicing Jew, an anti Zionist Jew, an atheist Jew, did not, and will not, protect anyone. I'm not Jewish but I used to teach ABOUT AntiSemitism and its history. Like an idiot I thought it was largely a historical problem. I was very wrong. I have seen unhinged glorification of Hamas from people on the left, who I know and thought were pretty normal, I have pulled away from a number of people recently. My question to them was "If you are devastated and heartbroken at the death of children in Gaza are you also devastated and heartbroken at the death of children in Israel on Oct 7th? If not why not?"

Sadly being in Australia will be a factor, they have a huge Antisemitism problem ATM, the Australian Jewish community is feeling very much under siege, a Synagogue in Melbourne was destroyed in an arson attack last week, the attack has now been designated a terrorist attack and Australia has launched an Antisemitism task force.

Having a mental health issue, particularly if it involves any kind of psychosis, will make her very vulnerable to clinging onto beliefs which are unhinged. It doesn't necessarily mean she always was antisemitic, it just means that antisemitism now slots into her new world view, a world view which is disordered and she has no control over.

Sad though it is you cannot reason with anyone in that kind of mental state. For your own sanity and safety please just withdraw from the friendship, block her on social media.

Sorry you have had to go through this. That's awful that some ignoramuses would conflate the two things (Jews and Israel).

Many of the most passionate anti zionist (anti settler colonialism) speakers are Jewish. None better than Norman Finkelstein.

All settler colonialism is abhorrent wherever it takes place. What's amusing is OP's 'disgusted with Israel" friend lives in Australia...another white settler colonial hotbed. You would think if she is so outraged she would not be living in a land where the indigenous people, the Aboriginal people, were systematically reduced in number by being bred out of existence by mixing with the white settlers; this included removing aboriginal children from their families. The other major white settler entity, the kingpin of settler entities, america, it too would split up families (enslaved Africans) though for reasons other than whitening the skin colour...there's was just to buy a slave, regardless how old they were. One of the most harrowing examples being 9 year old Ashley who was separated from her mother after she was sold to her new slavemaster.

"Ashley's sack is a mid-1800s cloth sack featuring an embroidered text that recounts the slave sale of a nine-year-old girl named Ashley and the parting gift of the sack by her mother, Rose. Rose filled the sack with a dress, braid of her hair, pecans and "my love always".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley%27s_sack

I wouldn't tolerate someone with those views in my home. Let alone inflict them on my family. Tell her you are busy.

Thank you!

As an Irish person living in Ireland for over 40 years I have NEVER met anybody who has openly stated that they are anti Jewish or pro Hamas.

Yes, there is lots of sympathy for Palestine and yes people are against what the Israeli government are doing in Gaza. But people are not anti Jewish or pro Hamas. Violence on every side is condemned.

To state that many Irish people support terrorist organisations such as the IRA and Hamas is untrue.

Well there is on this thread anyways.

Do people do have the ability to understand that the views expressed in border towns and small rural communities are not universal?

To understand that being anti what Israel is currently doing in Gaza is not the same as being anti Jewish.

There is a difference between history and the current IRA which are classed as a terrorist organisation.

It’s very, very far from the majority position in Ireland. Please don’t think it is.

Ok fair enough.

Can whoever has asked every single person in Ireland their views on this please join this thread? Cos thats the only person who with any accuracy can say what the majority of Ireland think !

This is so horrific to me that anyone considers in acceptable to mass generalise about Irish people.

Sorry - I meant pro Palestinian ( which is a majority view)
I definitely didn’t mean to imply that the horrific anti semitism was a mainstream view.