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To throw the Avon catalogue...

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onionbahjeepers · 10/12/2024 13:06

I didn't even think Avon still did catalogues but I've just got home to find one through my door and a note saying they'll collect next week.

Person A says just throw it away, it's unsolicited mail.

Person B says just throw it out on the doorstep and let it sit there for a week.

Person C says keep it in and remember to put it out on the day it says it'll be collected.

Which team are you?

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loveawineloveacrisp · 07/01/2025 13:40

onionbahjeepers · 07/01/2025 09:41

FYI I left the catalogue out on the front step the day of the original post. It's still there. So now it really is going in the bin! No guilt at all!

Well you know what to do next time!

onionbahjeepers · 07/01/2025 09:41

FYI I left the catalogue out on the front step the day of the original post. It's still there. So now it really is going in the bin! No guilt at all!

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Needmorelego · 11/12/2024 15:35

@TheLightSideOfTheMoon well I'm mostly a Poundland or own brand from Aldi type person when it comes to bath stuff....so it's expensive to me 😂😂😂😂

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 11/12/2024 15:21

Needmorelego · 11/12/2024 11:00

@TheLimeHedgehog also Avon is hardly "cheap tat".
It's quite expensive.

It the Bayliss & Harding of the Doorstep Catalogue People.

Purplebunnie · 11/12/2024 14:18

Not read the full thread but I think they have to pay for any catalogues that are not returned.

It's probably someone trying to make a few quid before Christmas

Just leave it on the doorstep but put a note in that you don't want them to leave them again and any future catalogues will be recycled

So B as I tried C and forgot to put it out

Tink3rbell30 · 11/12/2024 13:42

toastofthetown · 11/12/2024 11:36

I’m not angry or uptight about it. I only learned last year from MN that Avon catalogues are to be treated differently to other unsolicited mail so may well have thrown in the bin before. I just tend to toss every leaflet and catalogue through the door away without looking as to who’s spamming me. My husband is usually the one who throws out the junk leaflets though and I doubt he knows anyone would be interested in collecting it either. I don’t want a catalogue of any size, and while I’m not angry about it like you’ve suggested, I don’t want a task of dealing with unsolicited mail beyond tossing it in the recycling bin.

Surely the fact that catalogues are uncontrolled when they are posted through strangers’ doors and a percentage may not be returned for any number of reasons (our neighbour’s house was unoccupied for over year for example) is just part of the cost of doing business and balanced against the opportunity for new customers.

I didn't mean you, I meant the ones getting so uptight about it and saying it's a scruffy invasion etc 😂

SpringleDingle · 11/12/2024 13:30

Probably intend to do C but put it on the side and forget about it / partner throws it out / kid cuts it up to do her craft with followed by looking totally dense when the Avon lady calls for it and I can't remember ever seeing it in the first place.

Needmorelego · 11/12/2024 13:23

@AlexaSetATimer apparently not anymore according to Avon's website.

CheekyOrca · 11/12/2024 13:17

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 11/12/2024 11:31

Not the individual's responsibility when it comes to data protection/unsolicited mail rights.

A sender must take accountability.

A house number and street is not data protected, it stops you getting annoyed and them wasting their time and money …

AlexaSetATimer · 11/12/2024 13:15

Needmorelego · 11/12/2024 06:34

@AlexaSetATimer they must be because animal testing is illegal.
How would they get away with breaking the law?

Animal testing is illegal in the U.K., but the wider Avon company ships into China, where animal testing is mandatory before products are released, so they are not cruelty free.

toastofthetown · 11/12/2024 12:56

x2boys · 11/12/2024 12:35

I guess it's casting a net and seeing who will bite
As I said the only Avon reps I knew were people i worked with when I was a nurse and most of their customers were colleagues. Avon was surprisingly popular
But if your a SAHM how else's are you going to get new clients, other than posting them through houses in your neighbourhood?

But casting that net by cold delivering leaflets that have value to you should be a business decision where the losses of that strategy are offset by new sales from your marketing strategy. There are many reasons beyond people being grumpy at having to process a catalogue they wanted why it might not be returned. For around a year both houses next to me were unoccupied so no one would be able to return it. Maybe it’s a demographic issue (I’m the awful millennial referenced upthread) or just totally unfamiliarity with Avon but until I saw it on MN last year I had no idea an Avon rep would want their catalogue back so would have thrown it without a second thought and I’ve asked a few friends and all said they also had no idea anyone would request it back and would also have immediately recycled.

Needmorelego · 11/12/2024 12:55

@Elphame that's good if they are where you live and that system works.
It's just baffling to me how many people in my hometown and my mother in law's town (both similar medium size midlands towns) claim they "didn't know that festival was happening" because they "didn't see it advertised" and when someone points out it was advertised in the yearly/quarterly/whatever district council magazine that is posted to every home in the district the answer is "oh I don't read that I just chuck it away" 😂

Elphame · 11/12/2024 12:39

Needmorelego · 11/12/2024 11:51

@Elphame I wasn't referring to groups though.
I meant events. Annual yearly events (that will obviously vary from town to town).

They are all on the FB group or parish council website.

biscuitsandbooks · 11/12/2024 12:38

@x2boys asking online? Knocking on doors? Asking at the school run or at toddler groups?

We're in 2024 - there are so many better ways of doing business than posting catalogues through the door and then expecting total strangers to store them got you until some random date in the future!

x2boys · 11/12/2024 12:35

biscuitsandbooks · 11/12/2024 11:31

So give it back appropriately so it can be reused

Or maybe the reps shouldn't give out catalogues to people who haven't asked for them?

I guess it's casting a net and seeing who will bite
As I said the only Avon reps I knew were people i worked with when I was a nurse and most of their customers were colleagues. Avon was surprisingly popular
But if your a SAHM how else's are you going to get new clients, other than posting them through houses in your neighbourhood?

TunipTheVegimal24 · 11/12/2024 12:03

Needmorelego · 11/12/2024 11:21

@biscuitsandbooks yes to be fair it is a slightly old fashioned way of selling. It's history is of starting in America where door to door sales was more common. A typical American suburb estate doesn't have little shops in the way they do on housing estates in the UK.
It was a more convenient way of shopping for your average suburban housewife stuck at home.
When I was a child (80s) my mum had the big catalogues (Littlewoods, Freemans etc). They were sometimes called "club books" because they were shared and one person (I assume who was classed as a rep) did a big order for everyone.
You could pay for goods from the club books in installments which is why they were popular.
They all exist online now (some names of the companies have changed).

That's interesting about the model starting in America. I think there is something about it feeling a bit "Un-British", being bothered at home, for any reason at all, even if it's only a small inconvenience. Chuggers who knock on the door, are another exampke that springs to mind. It only takes a minute to politely say no thanks, it may well be for a good cause, but it feels rude somehow that they're there at all.

Needmorelego · 11/12/2024 11:51

@Elphame I wasn't referring to groups though.
I meant events. Annual yearly events (that will obviously vary from town to town).

Elphame · 11/12/2024 11:49

Needmorelego · 11/12/2024 10:56

@Elphame what do you mean you'll "never be old enough to want to join in"?
I was referring to big events (often run by the Town Council) like music festivals, family fun days in the town park, Christmas light switch on events, country fairs etc. That sort of thing.

My DC are in their 30s so family “fun” days are of no interest and the weekly lunch club doesn’t appeal in the slightest. The average age is way above mine, I don’t gossip and I don’t know half the people they are gossiping about! The rest of the time it’s about TV programmes which excludes me completely.

Same goes for the rest of the local groups I’m afraid. I can’t see me ever enjoying that. I’m not one for small talk and I’ve never met anyone at this type of club/event who comes even close to seeming a kindred spirit and the the environment is not one to foster attempts at a deeper level of conversation.

The women’s business and professional networking groups are full of MLM huns and Probus here is men only.

I’m happy in my own social circle and in running my own teaching group ( which is by word of mouth only)

SinnerBoy · 11/12/2024 11:44

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · Yesterday 15:14

I once accidentally solved the catalogue problem I think it was betterware by offending the bloke.

I learned that reps buy their catalogues because of Betterware - are they still on the go? One was posted and a few days later, a woman came and asked if I wanted to order, I told her no and please don't put another through the letterbox.

A week later, another one was there. It sat in the porch for three months and I chucked it. Of course, she came round a couple of days later! When I said I'd binned it, she got really angry with me and demanded £3.

I said I'd asked her not to post another and that she'd left it for 3 months, she said she'd been busy! I eventually closed the door on her.

toastofthetown · 11/12/2024 11:36

Tink3rbell30 · 11/12/2024 10:24

The uptight and angry responses over a little catalogue are hilarious plus the refusal to be polite or have any thought for anyone else. It's also not scruffy/litter/an invasion 😂

I’m not angry or uptight about it. I only learned last year from MN that Avon catalogues are to be treated differently to other unsolicited mail so may well have thrown in the bin before. I just tend to toss every leaflet and catalogue through the door away without looking as to who’s spamming me. My husband is usually the one who throws out the junk leaflets though and I doubt he knows anyone would be interested in collecting it either. I don’t want a catalogue of any size, and while I’m not angry about it like you’ve suggested, I don’t want a task of dealing with unsolicited mail beyond tossing it in the recycling bin.

Surely the fact that catalogues are uncontrolled when they are posted through strangers’ doors and a percentage may not be returned for any number of reasons (our neighbour’s house was unoccupied for over year for example) is just part of the cost of doing business and balanced against the opportunity for new customers.

onionbahjeepers · 11/12/2024 11:35

@TheLimeHedgehog 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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onionbahjeepers · 11/12/2024 11:34

Yesterday I was totally person A and was ready to launch it in the bin. However, today I am debating having a browse. But either way I've asked on the neighours WhatsApp (just for my road) if it's from anyone. If it's not (or if Infact it's a neighbour I don't like) it'll be going in the bin recycling of course, I'm not a total bitch

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TheLimeHedgehog · 11/12/2024 11:33

Needmorelego · 11/12/2024 11:32

@TheLimeHedgehog I live in a flat. I don't have a front garden. I don't actually get any catalogues because the reps can't get in the building without a fob key 😂
Maybe the anti catalogue folks should all move to flats.

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Explains it all thanks 😂

Needmorelego · 11/12/2024 11:32

@TheLimeHedgehog I live in a flat. I don't have a front garden. I don't actually get any catalogues because the reps can't get in the building without a fob key 😂
Maybe the anti catalogue folks should all move to flats.

nam3c4ang3 · 11/12/2024 11:31

C - Its just someone trying to earn a bit extra money . A would be the worst option, B is also a bit icky.